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Protesters this month in Tel Aviv calling for the release of hostages taken from
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ISRAELIS, NEWLY VULNERABLE, REMAIN TRAUMATIZED AND MISTRUSTFUL

Despite U.S. pressure, the idea of a Palestinian state seems further away than
ever, as Israel’s Jews move rightward and its Palestinians fear a backlash.

Protesters this month in Tel Aviv calling for the release of hostages taken from
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By Steven Erlanger

Photographs by Sergey Ponomarev

Steven Erlanger reported from Jerusalem, Army Base Julis, Tel Aviv, and
Beersheba to try to get a sense of Israel’s mood four months into the war
against Hamas.

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After the Hamas invasion on Oct. 7, Doron Shabty and his wife and their two
small children hid in Sderot, near the border with Gaza, and survived. A
reservist in the infantry, he went into the army the next day.

He just returned after more than 100 days in Gaza, having lost friends. Mr.
Shabty, 31, who sees himself on the political left, said he felt no sense of
revenge, even if other soldiers did. Nor did he justify every act of the Israeli
military, expressing sorrow over the many thousands of Gazans killed in the
fight against Hamas.

But he said he felt certain that to restore Israelis’ faith in their country’s
ability to protect them, there cannot be a return to the situation of Oct. 6.
“We can’t live with an armed Gaza — we just can’t do that,” he said. “And in
order to disarm Gaza, you need to pay a terrible price.”

The shock of Oct. 7 was emotional, physical and psychological, undermining the
idea of security, both personal and national, and reminding Israelis that they
have powerful enemies next door who wish them dead and gone.



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Four months into the war, with mounting deaths, hostages still held by Hamas and
no clear victory in sight, their own pain has numbed many Israelis to the
suffering of Gazans, let alone the pain of the Palestinian citizens of Israel
itself.

Gaza’s Ministry of Health says that more than 28,000 Gazans have been killed in
the war, largely civilians, though the figures do not distinguish between them
and combatants. The toll vastly outnumbers Israeli deaths since Oct. 7, when
some 1,200 people were killed, according to Israeli officials. The latest
cumulative Israeli figures say that a total of 779 civilians, including 76
foreign citizens, and 633 soldiers and police officers have died in Israel, Gaza
and the West Bank. More than 100 people are held as prisoners by Hamas.

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Steven Erlanger is the chief diplomatic correspondent in Europe and is based in
Berlin. He has reported from over 120 countries, including Thailand, France,
Israel, Germany and the former Soviet Union. More about Steven Erlanger

Sergey Ponomarev is a freelance photographer for The Times. Follow him at on
Instagram: @sergeyponomarev. More about Sergey Ponomarev

A version of this article appears in print on Feb. 18, 2024, Section A, Page 10
of the New York edition with the headline: In a Newly Vulnerable Israel,
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