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Interviewing Deprogrammers: In the House of the Strong Man Sodomy is the Key

Interview with Marion Knox by Elana Freeland

> > > >            The doctors of the law, too, who had come down from
> > > > Jerusalem, said, ‘He is possessed by Beelzebub’ and ‘He drives out
> > > > devils by the prince of devils.’ So he called them to come forward, and
> > > > spoke to them in parables: ‘How can Satan drive out Satan? If a kingdom
> > > > is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand; if a household is
> > > > divided against itself, that house will never stand; and if Satan is in
> > > > rebellion against himself, he is divided and cannot stand; and that is
> > > > the end of him.

          ‘On the other hand, no one can break into a strong man’s house and
make off with his goods unless he has first tied the strong man up; then he can
ransack the house.’ (Mark 3:22-27, NE)

           Marion Knox is a farmer in Lebanon, Oregon who more and more is
called upon to do the work of deliverance, not deprogramming. For more
information about how he works, feel free to contact him at 36185 Bohlken Drive,
Lebanon OR 97355, (541)259-1839. Therapists of all persuasions may be interested
in sending $5 to mkzine for xeroxing and mailing to read Marion’s 19-page
“Biblical Perspective of Ritual Abuse” that lays out how Illuminati programming
is structured and how Marion delivers -- and reintegrates -- DIDs through Jesus
Christ.

 CAUTION: THIS INTERVIEW MAY BE TRIGGERING.

 E:       Marion, where I want to start is with your statement that the presence
of Elohim spirits usually indicate Freemasonic programming that is installed by
sodomy. Does that ring a bell?

 M:      Yes, it does, and I would like to broaden that a little bit. Ron Patton
once did an article on Monarch programming. Based on what you might call
research or what I have discovered in maybe 500 people over a period of ten
years -- I’m just guessing because I don’t keep records -- this is my
impression: the most vulnerable age for preparing a person for mind control is
between two and four years of age because of the development of the child’s mind
at that age. Traumatic things can damage them worse than if they were younger or
older. Also, in order to be programmable there needs to be a change in the way
their mind works between two and four. That change can only be achieved by
sodomy.

 E:       What is it about sodomy that does that?

 M:      It attacks the nerves at the base of the spine and causes something
neurological to happen within the brain. It also has a spiritual, demonic
component to it that affects the person’s mind in a way that nothing else will,
as near as I can tell. In other words, I would state it this way: for a person
to be able to develop multiple personalities, they would have to be sodomized
between two and four.

 E:       For all multiple personality disorders?

 M:      As far as I know. It’s not commonly told this way because sodomy puts
in a deaf and dumb spirit and causes memory loss so that some people may
remember occult rituals but won’t remember the sodomy. But sodomy is the
foundation of the whole thing. It is called “the key of David”1 by the
Rothschild Illuminati.

 E:       When you say Rothschild Illuminati, you’re not talking about just the
Rothschild family?

 M:      No, I’m talking about all of the occult people all over the world. This
goes back to Nimrod. This is the Egyptian initiation of the child to open the
third eye.

 E:       Are you saying that back in Egypt in 3000 B.C.E., when the priesthood
was at its peak, they were using sodomy for their initiations?

 M:      As far as I know, sodomy is always used in the occult going clear back
before the Flood. Sodomy is Satan’s sex or Satan’s new birth of the child. I
don’t believe anybody can become fully illuminated unless they have been
sodomized at around three years of age. If they wait to touch that person until
they’re ten, twelve, fifteen years old, they will never be fully illuminated
because you can’t open the third eye after about five or six years of age.

 E:       The third eye meaning the pineal gland between the eyes?

 M:      Yes. I have traced migraine headaches from anal sex. It comes up the
spine, over the back of the head right into the forehead.

 E:       All migraines, or --

 M:      No, I’m not saying all migraine headaches are from sodomy because I had
one once that was put on me by a retired chiropractor  and he did not sodomize
me. But I think he was a sodomite. Basically, Satan cannot sodomize someone on
his own, but he can influence somebody to sodomize someone else and then it’s
like having Satan sodomize them and put the sodomy power within them. Sodomy is
spiritual. I get intense about this because it is so clear, and the Bible is the
best source for discovering this.

 E:       Regarding Illuminati and Rothschild --

 M:      Let’s leave Rothschild out of this. Not everybody is Rothschild unless
you are using Rothschild as a loose term like Illuminati. With Illuminati
referring to the wider spectrum, there is a Rothschild element and a Masonic
element, but probably as sinister as any is the Jesuit element. I cannot prove
this, I wish I could, but I believe that to become a full-fledged Jesuit you
would have had to have been sodomized by the time you were three years of age. I
believe they’re all sodomites.

 E:       The entire Society of Jesus?

 M:      I don’t think you can become powerful in the Society of Jesus without
being involved in sodomy at some point in time.

 E:       Marion, when you say the third eye, I think of the ability to see
visions, to see things we normally can’t. Is that what you’re talking about?

 M:      To make a mystic with those capabilities requires sodomy because sodomy
changes the way the mind works; it opens the mind up to the spirit world.

 E:       So it’s the same effect on male or female children?

 M:      Absolutely, and you never know what the effect is going to be. One
might be one way and one another, but to be able to become a mystic, whether
it’s a Catholic mystic or any other kind of mystic, that is the route to go. I
call that the Legion mindset.

 E:       Let’s go back to the Elohim and Legion. What are the differences?

 M:      The Legion mindset has the Strong Man spirit in it. It’s like the House
of the Strong Man: its foundation can develop into a mystic, or into multiple
personalities. The Legion mindset would be what Alice in Wonderland is all
about. The Elohim spirit is just one small item.

 E:       But they’re inserted through sodomy, as well?

 M:      Yes. I think the spirit called Elohim in people who have gone through
Masonic ceremonies enters with sodomy.

 E:       But the word Elohim in the Old Testament is actually a good word --

 M:      Not always, because the word means “spirit.” I think if you check the
original, when Samuel came up, the witch of Endor said she saw the Elohim coming
up. So she saw the spirit coming up, not God Almighty. In the occult world, they
have many Elohim. Why do you think that Wicca’s magic circle has the name Elohim
and Adonai? Do you think that’s God Almighty? I don’t think so.

 E:       So they may have spirits that are stand-ins for other --

 M:      Basically, the sodomy spirits would call themselves the I AM spirits.
When you have someone who has a sodomy spirit, that sodomy spirit claims to be
God. So then it’s just the next step to use the names that we associate with
God. Mormonism says that Elohim had sex with Mary to birth Jesus. Do you think
that was Almighty God? I don’t think so. Joseph Smith was a peepstone gazer; he
had the third eye open. He was a molester, had been a Mason and copied Masonic
ceremonies for the Temple ceremonies.

 E:       From what you have learned from the people you have deprogrammed --
you don’t like that word, do you?

 M:      You can use the word deprogramming, but it is used in circles that are
not Christian, and basically a lot of what they call deprogramming is
reprogramming. I like to think of it as changing a mindset. But go ahead and ask
your question.

 E:       I’m trying to establish a relationship between the Illuminati and
Freemasons.

 M:      Okay. In the true sense of the word, Illuminati is a class of people
that have illumination in common. In the political sense, you might have people
who have joined an organization called the Illuminati -- like being a Democrat
or a Republican. But in the true sense of the word, the Illuminati refers to
enlightened or illuminated ones.

 E:       And they can be from any brotherhood or organization?

 M:      Yes.

 E:       And they have gone through some sort of initiation for that?

 M:      In a spiritual sense, they have been illuminated or initiated into the
illumination of Lucifer. The initiation into the light of Lucifer is achieved by
sodomy of the three year old. However, if that person does not follow through,
he can become a dud -- he doesn’t go anywhere, so he hasn’t really risen to any
rank within the movement of the body of the Illuminati. They have certain
degrees associated with being a high-level Illuminati -- you wouldn’t get there
simply by being initiated as a three year old. The initiation of the three year
old is the beginning requirement of someday rising up into the ranks of a group
that is considered to be the Illuminati. A lot of people think of the Illuminati
as being a political group of people, but in another sense it’s a brotherhood of
sodomites that’s like family.

 E:       When you say ‘like family,’ are some blood related and most not?

 M:      I’m saying sodomites feel a family bond, whether related or not.

 E:       Sodomites -- Illuminati or otherwise. Is sodomy ritually continued
after three years old?

 M:      Let me try to explain it this way. Who is the Bride of Christ or who is
the Church? Everybody who is truly born again is in the kingdom or family of
God, right?

 E:       Uh-huh.

 M:      That is THE Church, right? But then you’ve got Methodists, Baptists,
Nazarenes and all these different groups. The Illuminati is Lucifer’s church,
the mystical body of Satan.

 E:       Is sodomy like communion for them?

 M:      No, sodomy is like being born again.

 E:       Do they do it over and over?

 M:      Yes, but especially in intense programming, like Monarch or mind
control programming, sodomy is used over and over and over. Those who have
programmers or keepers, they’re using sodomy all the time to keep the person in
line.

 E:       Is sodomy a threat or is it pleasurable to the sodomized?

 M:      Those who have been programmed have a locked-in three-year-old mindset
which is the core of the programming. Say they’re eighteen or twenty years old
and somebody comes up and knows the signal or says the code word to call out the
three-year-old core. The person then goes into the three-year-old state to be
sodomized, then the sodomites program into their minds what they want to program
in, and when that person wakes up they probably don’t even remember that
anything happened. Basically, a person reverts back to the three year old to be
a total victim to the sodomy.

          There are many ramifications of this. If you read the book by Cathy
O’Brien, she says that a high-level politician gave her messages to take to the
King of Saudi Arabia. The politician would access her sex alter, repeat the
message, bring her out of that sex alter, ship her overseas, and when she got
there the King would access her sex alter and get the message word for word from
the high-level politician and return an answer. That basically is a picture --
she didn’t say it was sodomy but that’s what they do. Sodomy puts them into a
trance where you can program in directly to the subconscious memory file without
any interference of the conscious mind. Sodomy is what puts the person into that
state where you can do it. They might even get them so highly programmed that
they can just say the word or repeat the code.

 E:       Can you use sodomy for programming after childhood?

 M:      You can program a 50-year-old person with sodomy.

 E:       But would you have had to have done it at least once when they were
small?

 M:      To get a mind control slave, yes. You can’t take a 20-year-old person
and make a mind control slave out of them by waiting until they’re 20 years old
to do it. To program them like TV and movies do -- you could not make a Monarch
programmed person if you hadn’t started with them as a child.

 E:       Have victims actually used the word Monarch to describe their
programming?

 M:      One of the people I worked with came up with the idea that the wings of
the monarch butterfly are actually the pelvic skeletal shape. Then if you add
sodomy, you add the abdomen of the butterfly. The other thing about Monarch
would be that these people are told they are royalty or “chosen ones,” given
that a lot of bloodline families in power in the United States claim to be
descendants of European royalty or descendants of monarchs. You could look at it
that way. I say that Monarch programming is basically sodomy programming.

          Some people are being kept in bondage by sodomizing themselves --
[Here the telephone turns into static that takes several minutes to rectify.] 
-- sodomy is used  to re-boot the computer and reactivate the programming.

 E:       Do you think this is at all behind the big push to accept
homosexuality as normal?

 M:      Of course.  

E:       Do you think all homosexuals are sodomized early?

 M:      I don’t think that very many homosexuals become homosexual without
being sexually abused early. They may not all have been sodomized, but a large
portion were.

          As far as religions go, Catholics and Masons are at the top of the
list. It’s possible that the Catholic hierarchy may even have an unofficial
doctrine to sodomize three year olds so as to bind them to the Church. They say,
“Give us a child until he’s five and he’ll always be Catholic,” but they don’t
start any religious training with the children until they’re five. I recently
freed a guy who was sodomized by a priest when he was probably three and then at
thirteen was put in Boys Town in Nebraska, and the priest there would take him
into a room, lock the doors, and make him do whatever he wanted him to do. A
first-hand witness of the corruption at Boys Town.

 E:       What about Skull and Bones, Scroll and Key -- fraternities of elite
sons -- do you suppose they’re using sodomy as well to make deep bonds for the
sake of money and power in the families?

 M:      I can’t imagine they haven’t. What is Skull and Bones anyway but the
order of death? Why are they doing things connected with the dead? Sodomy is the
biggest occult power source there is, so how did they get their power without
it? I was not there, I was never invited to go there, I could not have gone
there because I was never a victim of sodomy as a child. Now, the Masons do
recruit people who are innocent bystanders just for the image and the dues. But
the real driving force of the Masons are the sodomites, just check the de Molay
thing.

 E:       Tell me a little more about the deep bond that forms among men because
of sodomy.

 M:      Let me tell you a little story. I have been trying to help a woman for
the last five years to get free of the bondage and victimization that began when
she was a child. She was married to a guy who’s wealthy and works for Nike, and
is also a cross-dresser. I even met with the cross-dresser and uncovered that
his grandpa was a Mason who treated him like a little girl and sodomized him.
This was from his mind, not mine -- but he didn’t want to believe it and get
right. They have four children, and she’s been sitting there with the damage to
the children.

          She’d been trying to get something to pin on him, like his pornography
on the internet, but he always lied his way out of everything. I called her out
of the blue the other day and she had filed for divorce but still didn’t have
anything on him. So I said, “Do you suppose you might have a spirit of his, like
the Strong Man?” So I checked it out and the answer that came from her mind was
that the spirit of her husband had entered her on her wedding night by sodomy.
All she can remember is that the wedding night was a bad night. I cast it out.
She had a bright red rash on her when we were talking about this, but when I
cast out the Strong Man spirit with her husband’s name, put in with sodomy,
within minutes the rash was completely gone.

          Within the week, she happened to be at her husband’s new house where
the daughter was, and the daughter said, “Let me show you something.” They went
into a big walk-in closet where there was a suitcase with another locked
suitcase in it. The daughter got the key, opened up the little suitcase, and
there were women’s paraphernalia, lingerie, even the tool to sodomize himself.
She could not find any evidence on that guy until I got rid of that spirit of
sodomy from him. Her eyes and the daughter’s eyes were opened.

          Sodomy has a spiritual component in it that is far more sinister than
anybody recognizes. It is the most underrated evil power to the general public.
But to the people who are in the know, they know that this is the ultimate
rebellion against God Himself. This is what they hope to use to gain the whole
human race for their side and defeat God Himself.

 E:       I’m convinced you’re right that for both mind control and male bonds
of power, sodomy is somehow key. What about another brotherhood, the Special
Forces -- Navy SEALS, Green Berets -- elite cadres?

 M:      From what I can gather, I believe they are chosen because the men start
out as victims as three year olds. I worked to help get a guy free whose mother
ran a topless bar down in California and he had a tremendous internal rage. He
didn’t do very well in school and he had his problems with drugs, but a guy came
along and got him a full ride of four years at West Point. He should never have
gotten in there. He went in on a football scholarship, but when they got him in
there they switched him to a boxing scholarship because when he got into boxing,
the rage could be turned on. He heard that some of the initiations coming up in
the second West Point year included sodomy. I don’t know that they subjected him
to sodomy, but he quit before he went more than one year.

          Just like in war, where traumatic things happen that soldiers can’t
remember, this is what sodomy does to the child. The denial system that kicks in
produces at least in some people the ability to compartmentalize. When you
compartmentalize, you can be in a certain compartment of your mind without
detracting from other compartments of your mind. If you’re in the pure rage
compartment, you don’t have any kindness or love diluting it.

 E:       So in the profiling that the military might use in order to find a man
who fits the untapped rage pattern --

 M:      I could make a profile! I could take a few victims that are healed and
sit them down beside me and we could bring the people through an interview and
we could profile them.

 E:       Why do I think this programming through sodomy acts so much more
powerfully on males than on females?

 M:      It doesn’t, but males and females are different. Females are best for
becoming programmed computers or human recorders. Most women are more capable of
creating multiple personality systems because of the way their minds work. But
the fact is that men are more aggressive, so the percentage of women who are
sodomized and become perpetrators is far lower than the percentage of men who
become perpetrators. They’re all victims to start with, but women just go on
being victims, they don’t tend to turn into perpetrators themselves. I’ve worked
with men who did not become perpetrators and remained victims, just like the
women; and I’ve seen evidence of women who became perpetrators. Witches are
perpetrators and just like men, they’re molesters. I’ve worked with people who
had women sodomizing them with objects, molesting children. But the percentage
is lower with women than it is men. A higher percentage of men will transition
from victim to perpetrator. And I’m convinced that there are some men who
compartmentalize in such a way that they do not on the average remember acts of
molesting; they will only remember if they get into that compartment. Otherwise,
they have amnesiac barriers between the different compartments of their minds.
Women are that way, too. A perpetrator with an amnesiac barrier is a sad, sad
case because they can switch into that compartment and go out and molest, then
switch out and not remember. This is the kind of person they use in Special
Forces for their assassination teams because they can activate the hidden
compartment that has been programmed for assassination and send them out on a
mission. A man who claimed to have been in the South African Special Forces told
me of two cases where he was sent to assassinate, one in a national park in
South Africa, and another in London.

 E:       So sodomy doesn’t need to be used; the trigger word can just be used
to activate that compartment.

 M:      I don’t know. I think that they could use sodomy and make them forget
the whole thing. People have been sodomized and they couldn’t remember for three
or six months after it had happened. We didn’t know what was wrong with them,
and then later found out somebody took them out and sodomized them.

          Sodomy is a spiritual thing. Let’s say Ben sodomizes either a man or
woman. When he does that, that person has a spirit by the name of Ben that
changes the way that person relates to things. This can even be as an adult. You
can’t put the Legion mindset in when they’re 40 years old, but you can put Ben
in when they’re 40 years old and it will change the way that person thinks. I’ve
had different women who separated from abusive husbands and for some reason
couldn’t break loose of the soul tie to their husband, but when we cast out the
sodomy spirit by their husband’s name, their feelings about their ex-husbands
changed. The most classic example is the lady who had slept with her husband
before they were married, committed adultery at 40 years of age, and when I
commanded the Strong Man to give its name it was her husband’s name that entered
at 40 when he sodomized her. That spirit of sodomy was more damaging to her than
the spirit of adultery or fornication.

 E:       What is the relationship between sodomy and the House of the Strong
Man?

 M:      If a person is sodomized, the Strong Man spirit that Jesus spoke of
will be the spirit of the sodomy. It’s actually an unclean spirit and a familiar
spirit with the name of the person who did the sodomy. So when you sodomize a
three year old, you build the doll house with the three year old trapped inside,
and every time that person is sodomized from that point on a Strong Man enters.
So let’s just say Joseph sodomized the child -- now Joseph and the
three-year-old child are in the house locked in the core of the mind. Along
comes Jack and sodomizes the girl later  -- now, there’s Joseph, the child, and
Jack. Then comes Ben later, then comes Sterling, then comes Red, then comes this
guy and that guy -- you’ve got a whole legion of sodomites and every one of them
has a name, which means that you’ve got many spirits of the sodomites in the
House of Joseph the Strong Man, the original sodomizer.

 E:       You’re being literal when you say spirit -- that the dissociation that
creates multiples is the entry of one spirit after another.

 M:      Well, some people would like to say that multiple personalities are not
spirits. I would like to say that the whole multiple mindset is a demonic
mindset, basically a Legion-style mindset of many, the same as the man in Mark 5
said: “My name is Legion, for we are many,” and Jesus released them all at once.
For the benefit of anybody who was looking on, two thousand pigs went crazy and
drowned while the man was again clothed and in his right mind. So basically all
of his legion of spirits, multiple personalities, or anything you want to call
them, all were gone and his mind was right. The whole multiple mindset is a
wrong mindset. It’s a fantasy world mindset.

 E:       But it’s not necessarily possession by demonic spirits?

 M:      If you got rid of every demon that multiple personality people have,
they would no longer be multiple.

 E:       So therapists who allow certain helpers or child alters to remain,
they’re not doing a service to the person?

 M:      The person can’t get free as long as they have any of that left because
their mind is not working like God intended it to work.

 E:       So with each sodomy the House of the Strong Man gets stronger and
stronger?

 M:      That’s right.

 E:       With a believer who can accept that Jesus Christ can deliver them all
at once, you have been able to free people from the House of the Strong Man?

 M:      I’ve had it happen on quite a number of occasions, not every time.
There’s some times that I never did get them to leave.

 E:       With non-believers or believers as well?

 M:      Well, people who said they were believers. But it’s possible to have a
compartment of your mind that’s a believer and another compartment that is a
sodomite. So what are you? A lot of people do not believe me when I say that you
can cast out the Strong Man, the child, and all of the multiple system at once.
But I’ve done it, by the grace of God -- Jesus did it, and others have done it.
So why would I spend my time with some lesser kind of benefit if I already know
that the ultimate goal is to achieve what I just described?

          I had a man once who was crazy. He had worked for twelve years to try
to get free but was ready to kill his wife. He couldn’t work, his marriage was
on the rocks, he was at the point of being committed. Somebody told him about me
and I finally found a spot for him to come. I didn’t know anything about him. I
met with him one day, uncovered that Joseph was the Strong Man, that he was
Rothschild bloodline and they had used him as a male prostitute, sodomized him
as a boy in rituals to get the power of the bloodline. I cast the whole thing
out in one day. He didn’t talk to me again for two years. He got well, he’s
still well. Two years later he and his wife came and told me the good things
that had happened. He went to his 6,000-member church to give his testimony of
getting well and they wouldn’t even let him use my name because they had
believed negative propaganda about me. He could give his testimony but all he
could say was he met with a man -- couldn’t use my name. I asked him, “What’d I
do different from the rest?” He said, “They went after the stronghold, you went
after the Strong Man.”

 E:       When you find out that the name of the Strong Man is Joseph, are you
thinking it’s Mengele?

 M:      No. Joseph Mengele was THE biggest Joseph in the last half of the 20th
century, but the name Joseph came out of the Jesuits and has been around since
the 1500’s. It started with devotion to the husband of Mary, whom they call St.
Joseph, and it became a symbol of the father of this system, the sodomizing
father that cares for his children. When a man sodomizes a child at three, the
child bonds to that man as if he were their father, and when he’s a man of the
cloth, of the Church, the child bonds to the Church, too. This sodomy thing has
been around for hundreds of years. Ignatius Loyola, founder of the Jesuits, was
a Catholic mystic; he had to have been a sodomized one. He was the guy who
headed up the Inquisition to persecute those who didn’t adhere to the tenets of
the Catholic faith. Terribly cruel! How could you be that cruel if you didn’t
have the sodomy rage? The torture they put people through! Later, Joseph Mengele
developed the programming and brought it up to another level. He was a Catholic
alter boy. I think he was also a Rothschild and a Jesuit. The founder of the
Illuminati was Adam Weishaupt, trained as a Jesuit.

 E:       Sodomy stands behind multiplicity --

 M:      I haven’t found anybody who was just sexually fondled and became
multiple, and I’ve never found anybody who went through occult rituals without
sodomy. So I can’t tell you whether being put through a sacrifice ritual without
sodomy makes a multiple. People are trying to say that would be the case -- that
the ritual murders and sacrifices are traumatic enough to produce MPD -- but
I’ve never found a case out there that only had sacrifice. They’ve always had
the sodomy. They don’t always remember it, but when push comes to shove, they’ve
got the symptoms. The occult groups know -- and they think all Christians are
stupid and can’t catch on -- they know that sodomy is required to achieve what
they want to achieve.

          If you check this thing out, you’ll find that all the idolatry going
clear back to the days of the children of Israel in Egypt have sodomy in it.
Jesus said:

> >  And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the
> > Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in
> > marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came
> > and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot: they did
> > eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; but the
> > same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven
> > and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man
> > is revealed. (Luke 17:26-30, KJV)

 Nothing wrong with marrying, buying and selling; every civilization does it.
What’s the common denominator of these three times? We have more sodomy now out
in the open than we’ve ever had. Lot was in Sodom -- that’s where the word
sodomy comes from. It meant anal sex, or as they’re calling it now anal
intercourse. What other kind of sex do you think they could produce on those
angels that they tried to break the door down to get to? They wanted to get
their supernatural power. The belief in the occult world is if you could
sodomize God, you’d get God’s power. You become as gods through sodomy; that’s
the way the Greek gods became gods. Alexander the Great was a great sodomizer
and his Greek army was the most fierce. Hitler tried to pattern his SS and
military after the Greek warriors using sodomy. When you put that all together,
the civilizations that God wiped out boiled down to the practice of sodomy.

          By the way, I’ve found that a lot of people’s hemorrhoid problems came
from their sodomy.

 E:       So sodomy is a lot more common than people give it credit for.

 M:      Now they’re putting sodomy pornography on the internet. I met a lady
who had a web cam set up in her home for the internet and would sodomize herself
in the nude for the guys out there to watch. She had been a church secretary.

 E:       Is sodomy the connecting link between satanism, Freemasonry, and other
groups, including Jesuits?

 M:      You remember Aleister Crowley. He was a 33rd degree Mason. I talked to
Bill Schnoebelen one time and asked him, “Where did the Masons get the sodomy?”
and he said, “It came by Aleister Crowley from black magic Hinduism.” Well, that
isn’t the only place it came from.

 E:       Have you run across more satanic stuff now? It seems rife, or has it
always been around about the same amount?

 M:      As far as American society is concerned, it’s increasing. As far as
Masonry and a certain element they call Black Masonry, it’s been around all the
time. I don’t use the term Satanism quite as much because the Masons would be
more Luciferian rather than Satanist.

 E:       What is the difference between Satan and Lucifer?

 M:      Same person, but Jesus said Satan comes either as an angel of light or
as a roaring lion. Satanism is the roaring lion principle, Luciferianism is the
angel of light principle. Basically, in Masonry the white and black checkered
floor is the light and dark balancing factor.

          In the Bible, sodomy is translated as “uncleanness.” In Job 36:13-14,
it says that  hypocrites in heart die young and live among the unclean. If you
take what’s in the margin of the King James or New King James and re-read the
verse, it would read like this: The hypocrites in heart, their souls die and
they live amongst the sodomites. Sodomy kills the soul, destroys the soul.
Romans 1 describes the route to having a reprobate mind. It’s a progression:

> > >  Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their
> > > own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves...
> > > 
> > >  And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave
> > > them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not
> > > convenient;
> > > Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness,
> > > covetousness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, debate, deceit,
> > > malignity: whisperers,
> > > Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil
> > > things, disobedient to parents,
> > > Without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection,
> > > implacable, unmerciful:
> > > Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are
> > > worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do
> > > them. (Rom. 1:24, 28-32, KJ)  

 So all kinds of things happen when they go into perversion.

E:       People talk about aliens. What is their relationship with demons?

 M:      I had a guy working for me whose brother-in-law works at Area 51. Top
secret, can’t talk. This guy who worked for me asked his brother-in-law, “What
about the alien thing?” He said, “The Stealth bomber is our most advanced
technology that the American public is aware of and it was developed 30 years
ago. What do you think they have now?”

          I think the alien thing is a cover scheme made up by these Area 51
people. The second thing I notice is that most of the people who believe in
aliens say that their first abduction occurred around three years of age. There
are so many similarities to occult ritual abuse that -- Whenever you put
together sodomy and ritual abuse, the demons are going to be layered in. They
give you a new mindset at three years of age, the fantasy world. This is what
the whole alien thing is all about. There’s no such thing as aliens from other
planets. There’s demons. 

E:       How do you picture where demons live? 

M:      The demon is a figment of your mind, it lives in your mind.

 E:       Is its origin in your mind as well?

 M:      You take a three-year-old child, untouched. Somebody sodomizes the
child, the guy’s name is Joe. Now, all of a sudden the child has a sodomy demon
called Joseph riding with him. That thing was conceived or reproduced from the
Joseph demon that the man had who sodomized that child. Where’d it come from? It
was birthed in the child’s mind by the act. It didn’t have to come from
anywhere; it just was birthed, reproduced right there. The child was given a
copy. Joe is like a copy machine that can reproduce another copy. I don’t feel
all demons are that way, but that kind are. They don’t live in the bloodstream,
they don’t live in the genes; they live in the mind.

 E:       Is sodomy worse than incest?

 M:      A lot of the incest that’s occurring is sodomy. I’ve heard that in
Mexico Mexican fathers sodomize their daughters to be able to control them and
bond them to the family, but they don’t give them vaginal sex so they can
preserve them as virgins for their husbands. What a crock of bull! I’m convinced
that Muslim hatred for non-Muslims comes from sodomy. Their rage has to come
from sodomy.

 E:       I’ve heard that sodomy is rampant among Muslims, but I thought it was
because of the laws that support revenge against men who make advances on women
-- that this Muslim law is what makes them turn to boys. But you think it’s more
than that?

 M:      Of course. Why would any normal man turn to boys? Even with those laws,
I wouldn’t turn to boys.

 E:       So men are conditioned because they’re sodomized as children?

 M:      I think so. One guy I know knew a Saudi who said that over there women
are for children and men are for love. The violence and hatred in that kind of
stuff is produced by sodomy; it produces the internal rage.

          The massive buildup of Star Wars-type technology way beyond anything
that they’re using for international policing is being developed in order to
defeat Jesus Christ so the sodomites can take over the world. Satan can’t do it,
so he’s using men to come up with the idea to try and do it. I know that what
I’m saying is tremendously radical, but in the end the Lord Jesus Christ will
win (Revelations 19 and 20).

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 1.       Key of David:  The Illuminati claim sodomy is the Key of David and
they use this scripture to prove it: “I will lay the key of the house of David
on his shoulder; what he opens no man shall shut, and what he shuts no man shall
open. He shall be a seat of honour for his father’s family; I will fasten him
firmly in place like a peg. On him shall hang all the weight of the family, down
to the lowest dregs -- all the little vessels, both bowls and pots. On that day,
says the Lord of Hosts, the peg which was firmly fastened in its place shall be
removed; it shall be hacked out and shall fall, and the load of things hanging
on it shall be destroyed. The Lord has spoken.” (Isaiah 22:22-25)

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 multidimensions.com

http://www.multidimensions.com/uncon_body_1chakra.html

“Physical Body Door: The First Chakra”

 ...Since it rules our first dimensional self that is unable to reflect upon
itself, perceptions from our root chakra are usually unconscious. This first
dimensional portion of us can only be aware of a "hive or species
consciousness". Even though, the first chakra has many masculine qualities it is
also the "seat of the Goddess Kundalini" and is therefore often associated with
our relationship with our mothers and with Mother Earth. Our relationships with
our mother set up our attitude toward home, security, and money. If we are cut
off from our roots, we feel cut off from the earth as well.

          The first chakra rules our survival consciousness and represents our
deepest unconscious and most primitive self. This chakra represents the
reptilian portion of our brain, which is our brainstem, our center for life
support. The brainstem and the area immediately above it are called the
reptilian brain because all creatures from reptiles to humans possess it. For
reptiles, this area is their entire brain, but for humans, it is the base or
stem of their brain.

          The first chakra represents birth to two years of age. This is the
time before we have completed our process of individuation and still perceive
ourselves as a part of our parents. This chakra represents our struggle to come
to terms with our physical life and physical body.

          Each chakra feeds prana into a different endocrine gland. Just as
there are seven chakras, there are seven endocrine glands. Both the chakras and
the endocrine glands are located along the spinal cord. The endocrine glands
manufacture hormones and supply them to the bloodstream. These glands are called
"ductless" because there is not a duct to any specific part of the body.
Instead, hormones are released into the bloodstream where they are carried by
the blood to every organ and tissue to exert their influence on all functions of
the physical body... The endocrine gland for the first chakra is the adrenal
glands. There are actually two adrenal glands located with one on top of each of
the two kidneys. The adrenal glands are the body's call to battle. When
adrenaline is released into the system our perceptions become clearer, we have
added vigor and feel more courageous. The release of adrenaline activates the
fight/flight syndrome, which prepares us for battle or flight. Release of
adrenaline and activation of fight/flight is brought on by real or imagined
danger. Therefore, our emotions can activate a release of adrenaline when we
feel extreme fear or even chronic anxiety...

          The first chakra is located near the sacral plexus... the nerve center
which rules the skeleton, legs, feet, eliminatory system, male reproductive
organs, and the prostate...

          The first chakra rules our first and second dimensional selves. Our
first dimensional self represents the genetic coding, cells, and minerals of our
bodies. It also represents our most primitive "animal self", which is
represented by the fight/flight response that serves to assure the survival of
the species. The root chakra also rules the male sex glands and the testosterone
that they secrete. This testosterone drives the males in our society, and the
male polarity of our psyche, to perpetuate and protect humanity.

 http://www.tarotcam.com/chakras/1chakra.html

           The Muldahara chakra is the foundation for the whole chakra system.
Its function is to respond to any issues concerning survival: eating, sleeping,
exercising, recovering from illness, making a living, or simply feeling safe and
secure. If our survival needs are properly taken care of, then we can safely
focus on other levels such as learning, creativity or relationships. if there is
some damage to this chakra, then we find ourselves repeatedly coping with
threats to our survival, which keeps us from accomplishing other things.

 Chakras: Tools for Transformation by Anita Slott, Alternative Culture Magazine

http://www.alternativeculture.com/spirit/chakra.htm:

           The chakras are the ancient depositories of all the divine energy
given to humanity at the beginning of time, "the seven Spirits" guiding us on
our path of transformation, our initiation into the mysteries of life. The
knowledge and use of chakras as a means to spiritual awakening has been
recognised through the ages in all the great religions in one form or another...

          The Sanskrit name of the first chakra is Mooladhara. It means root and
support. It is situated in males midway between the anus and the genitals at the
perineum, and in the female at the cervix, where the vagina and the uterus join.
Mooladhara is the lowest chakra in human beings, but the highest in animals. It
is the chakra of group consciousness, in which animals live, and also humans who
identify themselves only by family, nationality, race and religion, not yet able
to detach from the group-soul and embrace their own individuality and
independence. It is an energy which, in its most negative aspect, is heavily at
work in all ethnic wars.

          ...The first chakra is depicted in Hindu teachings as a four petalled
deep-red lotus flower. Its colour is red, the colour of passion and emotional
love, and its number is four. Four is the number of manifestation, of matter, so
we deal here with the energy of the material world. In fact, its element is
earth. When the energy in this chakra is not activated and purified, when our
consciousness has not developed beyond the three bottom chakras, we are
unconscious of ourselves as individuals. We relate to the world out of our
particular tribe at the exclusion of everything else. We are almost entirely
self-centred and concerned with issues of survival in the material world and the
energy manifests in its negative aspects in anger, greed, revenge, collective
hatred, lust for power and control - all passions of our lower nature. The need
for material security and control is the dominant energy.

          From Mooladhara three energy channels - called nadis in Sanskrit -
make their ascent to Ajna (the sixth chakra [third eye]) entwining around the
spine, crossing each other at every chakra. Ida is the mental energy, related to
the breath flow in the left nostril and to the parasympathetic nervous system.
Pingala is the vital energy, related to the right nostril and to the sympathetic
nervous system. The Chinese concept of Ying and Yang corresponds exactly to Ida
and Pingala. The main channel, which flows through a central canal in the spinal
cord, is called Sushumna and is responsible for spiritual awareness. Sushumna
rises up to the crown chakra. Through this canal Kundalini rises, the divine
creative energy in us which, when awakened, transforms us from unconscious into
conscious human beings and gives us full control of our body, mind and soul...
Because Mooladhara is directly connected with Ajna through Ida and Pingala,
awakening of Mooladhara awakens also Ajna, the centre of spiritual intuition and
spiritual vision. And visa-versa.

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 Sex magick...

 Kenneth Grant. The Magical Revival. London, England: Frederick Muller Ltd.,
1972.

           In Aspects of Occultism, [Dion] Fortune mentions the vibrations
detected in sand. She attributes Egypt's strange influence to "the electricity
generated by the ever-moving sands of the great Sahara desert, which so changes
the normal rate of vibration, that an extension of consciouness is the result."
The Ajna chakra, commonly called the third eye, has been found to consist of
particles of very fine substance resembling sand, or the crystals in a wireless
receiving set.

          The affinity between the secretions of the endocrine glands and the
vibrations radiating from the subtle chakras explored by yogins, forms the basis
of sexual magick which utilizes these vibrations in a way as yet unknown to
science. All the so-called phallic cults originally possessed the true knowledge
of these matters before it was lost or perverted by improper use. What remains
of the ancient wisdom is the remnant only of debased and phallic rites...

          The Consciousness-Current is twofold: magical and mystical. The former
operates in the lower chakras, the latter in the higher. That which ejaculates
as semen is unabsorbed energy (prana or ojas), and it always contributes to the
creation of material forms, whether lodged in a womb or not. If not, the
overflow (as in masturbation, sodomy, fellatio, etc.), is taken up by the astral
and quphotic entities and built into organisms already existing upon the subtle
planes. Paracelsus refers to homunculi (artificially generated creatures) made
from sperm independent of the female organism, and to astral larvae and
parasitic monsters built out of the substance of voluptuous imaginings...

          The Work that lies ahead may be described symbolically as the marriage
of the Beast and the Woman, the formula of which I have attempted to explain.
Its hieroglyph is the Eleventh Key of the Book of Thoth. In the union of
electrochemical and stellar vibrations represented by Babalon and the Beast,
lies the key to the next stage in the advancement of evolution upon this planet.
It will be achieved by a willed congress with extra-terrestrial entities of
which, in a sense, Aiwaz is the immediate messenger to humanity...

          We are on the threshold of profound and far-reaching change. The Aeon
of Horus is the Aeon of Magick, which is Change; but unlike all previous changes
in the history of the race this Change will be of cosmic magnitude and it will
occur in conformity with will, or, alternatively, it will terminate abruptly in
chaos and disaster...                    Crowley illumined and exalted this
simple yet radiant rite [the Ritual of the Pentagram] to a cosmic formula,
merely by interpreting it in terms of New Aeon potencies. To the East, the place
of the rising Power, he attributes the Phallus (the Beast), which represents the
active terrestrial currents as they impregnate the earth. This activity stirs
the sleeping Fire of the infernal regions (the subconsciousness) in the South
[Ed.: the first chakra via the anus?], the abode of Set or Teth, and the phallic
lion-serpents are set in motion. These are the electromagnetic lightnings that
permeate Space; they are concentrated symbolically in the sphere of Sirius, the
Sun in the South. The terrestrial and celestial vibrations are fused and
polarized by Babalon (the Dragon of the Western Deep), to be transmitted by her
and later transformed into regenerate Man, represented in the North by the
Eleventh Sign of the Zodiac (Aquarius) whose elemental attribute is Air or
Space. Through regenerated Man flows the influence of Nuit - the sky-goddess - a
symbol of the cosmic energies of Infinite Space.

          In this simple circular process - more properly spiral, for it
includes Height and Depth - is contained the entire formula of Magick in its new
and cosmic mode. With very slight variation, the formula can be made the engine
for invoking those extra- terrestrial energies with which Crowley had
intermittent intercourse.

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 [Ed.: It is crucial to understand something of how the occult works, given that
the founding of America and the struggle to maintain it is steeped in it (e.g.
Freemasonry, Theosophy, Satanism, etc.).

          The spiritual movement of Theosophy presently works internationally
through Lucis Trust, umbrella for a variety of endeavors, including a publishing
house, consultative status to the United Nations via the Economic and Social
Council (ECOSOC), and nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) like World Goodwill
and Triangles in Education. Robert Muller, former assistant Secretary General of
the United Nations and winner of the UNESCO Prize for Peace Education in 1989
for his World Core Curriculum, espoused theosophical teachings: "The underlying
philosophy upon which The Robert Muller School is based will be found in the
teaching set forth in the books of Alice A. Bailey by the Tibetan teacher,
Djwhal Khul.” Unfortunately, pedophilia -- often entailing sodomy -- is not
restricted to priests of the Roman Catholic Church but may be involved in any
occult or religious movement attempting to create “avatars” and mystics (the
“Indigo children”?). We must learn to read between the lines of “spiritual”
teachings and leaders and their “revelations.”

          The example below concerns theosophy and the dubious relationship
between Leadbeater and the child Krishnamurti -- Krishnamurti’s parents
eventually had to sue Besant and Leadbeater in order to get their son back --
but the problem can surface anywhere in any religion, as the recent scandal
surrounding Sri Sathya Sai Baba proves (see
http://www.sailinks.narod.ru/epage.htm ).]

           It is not enough to say that Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, a.k.a. Madame
Blavatsky, was the primary force behind the emergence of the esoteric tradition
called Theosophy. Indeed, Blavatsky might well be called the matriarch of the
New Age and the catalyst for the current revival of the paranormal in all
aspects of American society. Allegedly trained in occult philosophy in Tibet and
influenced by Hinduism in India, Madame Blavatsky, a Russian-born psychic,
settled in the United States in 1873. She claimed she had been sent to America
by her Lodge (populated by members of the Universal Mystical Brotherhood) to
share truth and unveil error. Two years after her arrival, she cofounded the
Theosophical Society of New York City with Colonel Henry Steele Olcott, a lawyer
with a keen interest in psychic phenomena. Theosophy was dedicated to the
blending and promotion of ancient and occult religions and philosophies. These
included, but were not confined to, Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, the Egyptian
Hermetic traditions, Neoplatonism, the Cabala, Rosicrucianism, Freemasonry,
mesmerism, and spiritualism...

          After Blavatsky died in 1891, the Society she founded split into
various branches and splinter groups. The most notable branch was led by Annie
Besant, an Englishwoman who had converted to Theosophy in 1889 after reading
Blavatsky’s The Secret Doctrine. A colleague of Besant was C. W. Leadbeater, an
ex-Anglican minister turned Buddhist and clairvoyant. Leadbeater and Besant
attempted to strengthen the ties between Theosophy, science, and psychic
phenomena, coauthoring a book called Occult Chemistry. Besant spent a number of
years in India developing the society Blavatsky had founded in Adyar, Madras.
She was joined by Leadbeater, who had been expelled from the Theosophical
Society earlier following charges of pedophilia [mkzine emphasis], but was
readmitted by Besant after she became president. In India the two began to groom
a young boy named Krishnamurti to be the next vehicle of the Supreme World
Teacher or Christ. (Theosophists believe the “Supreme World Teacher”
periodically enters the body of a human disciple to provide new revelation and
guide the spiritual evolution of humanity.) - Christian Research Institute,
http://biblefacts.org/cult/cri/theos.html

http://www.mkzine.com/Essays/Int-Marion%20Knox.html