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DECONSTRUCT


THE REAL DEAL’S SUZANNAH CAVANAUGH AND JOE LOVINGER BREAK DOWN THE NEWEST,
BIGGEST TRENDS AND CONCEPTS IN REAL ESTATE.

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ABOUT THE SHOW

In Deconstruct, The Real Deal breaks down the most important ideas in real
estate. We follow the money from Los Angeles to New York City to explain what
investors, brokers and developers are focused on right now. This is essential
listening for understanding the great, big world of real estate.


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YOUR HOSTS

 * Suzannah Cavanaugh
 * Joseph Lovinger


EPISODES


 * HOW REAL ESTATE DONORS AND HOUSING-CONSCIOUS VOTERS WILL DRIVE THE ELECTION
   
   NOVEMBER 4TH, 2024  |  SEASON 4  |  18 MINS 30 SECS
   
   ELECTION, HOUSING CRISIS, REAL ESTATE NEWS
   
   In the latest episode of Deconstruct, Suzannah Cavanaugh and Joe Lovinger
   talk with TRD politics reporter Kathryn Brenzel about what the presidential
   election means for real estate, and how people in the industry are preparing.


 * INSIDE THE WORKOUT ROOM WITH IRON HOUND'S ROB VERRONE
   
   OCTOBER 28TH, 2024  |  SEASON 4  |  30 MINS 19 SECS
   
   BUSINESS NEWS, CMBS, DISTRESS, LOAN WORKOUT, REAL ESTATE NEWS
   
   In the latest episode of Deconstruct, TRD's Suzannah Cavanaugh finds out how
   loan specialists fix bad debt – or at least try to – by talking with loan
   workout specialists Rob Verrone and Job Warshaw of Iron Hound. Verrone works
   with sponsors to hash out modifications for distressed CMBS debt, and Warshaw
   brings perspective from the other side of the table — he spent three decades
   heading up negotiations for special servicer LNR Partners.


 * HAS CLIMATE CHANGE BECOME UNDENIABLE FOR REAL ESTATE?
   
   OCTOBER 21ST, 2024  |  SEASON 4  |  29 MINS 52 SECS
   
   HELENE, HOME INSURANCE, HURRICANE DAMAGE, MILTON, REAL ESTATE, REAL ESTATE
   NEWS
   
   Hosts Suzannah Cavanaugh and Joe Lovinger talk with South Florida reporters
   Katherine Kallergis and Kate Hinsche about the havoc, both physical and
   financial, wreaked by Hurricanes Milton and Helene, and whether real estate
   will finally wake up to the threat of climate change.


 * THE MAN WHO BET THE BANK ON POST-PANDEMIC OFFICE
   
   OCTOBER 14TH, 2024  |  SEASON 4  |  20 MINS 6 SECS
   
   FRAUD, OFFICE MARKET, REAL ESTATE DISTRESS, SUBURBAN REAL ESTATE
   
   New Jersey investor Shaya Prager quickly amassed a portfolio of millions of
   square feet of suburban office. As the market turns, he's been mixed up with
   allegations of fraud and struggling to keep a grip on his real estate
   investments. TRD breaks down his rise and fall in the latest episode of
   Deconstruct.


 * WE GOT A RATE CUT. NOW WHAT?
   
   OCTOBER 7TH, 2024  |  SEASON 4  |  17 MINS 30 SECS
   
   BUSINESS NEWS, DECONSTRUCT, FINANCE, RATE CUT, REAL ESTATE, REAL ESTATE NEWS,
   THE REAL DEAL
   
   The Real Deal's Suzannah Cavanaugh and Joseph Lovinger break down what's next
   now that real estate's much-desired rate cut is finally here.


 * TIDES EQUITIES EYES A TURNING TIDE FOR MULTIFAMILY
   
   SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024  |  SEASON 4  |  49 MINS 14 SECS
   
   MULTIFAMILY, REAL ESTATE NEWS, TIDES EQUITIES
   
   Co-hosts Suzannah Cavanaugh and Joseph Lovinger discuss the turning point for
   the multifamily real estate market, and Suzannah interviews Tides Equities
   principals Sean Kia and Ryan Andrade.


 * WEWORK’S GLOBAL HEAD OF REAL ESTATE ON EMERGING FROM BANKRUPTCY AND WHAT
   COMES NEXT
   
   JULY 1ST, 2024  |  SEASON 3  |  32 MINS 28 SECS
   
   BANKRUPTCY, CHAPTER 11, COWORKING, OFFICE LEASING, OFFICE SPACE, WEWORK
   
   WeWork emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy last month after a herculean effort
   to cut costs. The task demanded the cooperation of hundreds of landlords and
   their lenders. Peter Greenspan, the coworking firm’s Global Head of Real
   Estate, brings Deconstruct to those negotiating tables for a look at how
   WeWork addressed 500 leases worldwide, and offers a preview of the firm’s
   next chapter.


 * BGO'S CHIEF ECONOMIST ON THE FED'S NEXT MOVE
   
   JUNE 24TH, 2024  |  SEASON 3  |  17 MINS 57 SECS
   
   BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, ECONOMICS, FEDERAL RESERVE, INTEREST RATES,
   INVESTING, NEW YORK CITY, NEWS, OFFICES, REAL ESTATE, REAL ESTATE NEWS
   
   The Real Deal podcast Deconstruct talks to BentallGreenOak's chief economist,
   Ryan Severino, about expectations around the Fed, interest rates, and how
   commercial real estate will be affected.


 * SPECIAL REPORT: ALEXANDER TWINS ACCUSED OF RAPE
   
   JUNE 17TH, 2024  |  SEASON 3  |  16 MINS 16 SECS
   
   ADULT SURVIVORS ACT, ALEXANDER BROTHERS, BROKERAGE, LUXURY REAL ESTATE,
   OFFICIAL, RAPE, SEXUAL ASSAULT
   
   Last week, The Real Deal broke the news that top broker Oren Alexander and
   his twin brother, Alon, had been accused of rape and sexual assault by at
   least two women. The complaints detail events that allegedly took place more
   than a decade ago. But the lawsuits and the nearly 30 people who came forward
   alleging similar incidents after the story published, according to an
   attorney representing the two women, speak to a pattern of alleged
   gender-based violence. Deconstruct speaks with South Florida Bureau Chief
   Katherine Kallergis, Reporter Sheridan Wall and Senior Editor Ellen Cranley
   about what we know so far.


 * HOW TO JUMPSTART A STALLED CONDO PROJECT
   
   JUNE 10TH, 2024  |  SEASON 3  |  21 MINS 20 SECS
   
   BOUTIQUE, COCONUT GROVE, CONDO, CONDOMINIUM, NEW DEVELOPMENT, SOUTH FLORIDA
   
   Real estate attorney Isaac Kodsi nabbed Arbor Residences out of foreclosure
   in late 2023 with two goals: revive the dead condo project and return
   deposits to former buyers. Not a year later, Kodsi says he nailed the latter
   goal and is on track to wrap construction by the end of 2024. South Florida
   Bureau Chief Katherine Kallergis interviewed Kodsi on how he paid back buyers
   and where sales, led by Sandra Masis of Cervera Real Estate, now stand.


 * OPPORTUNITY, OPPORTUNITY, OPPORTUNITY: GOLDMAN SACHS' ALTERNATIVE CAPITAL
   LEAD ON REAL ESTATE LENDING
   
   JUNE 3RD, 2024  |  SEASON 3  |  27 MINS 24 SECS
   
   BANKING, BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, FINANCE, GOLDMAN SACHS, INVESTING,
   LENDING, NEW YORK CITY, NEWS, PRIVATE CREDIT, REAL ESTATE, REAL ESTATE
   LENDING, REAL ESTATE NEWS
   
   The Real Deal podcast Deconstruct chats with Goldman Sachs' co-head of
   alternative capital formation, Jeffrey Fine, about where the firm is looking
   to make new commercial real estate loans and the general state of lending.


 * DEALING WITH SYNDICATIONS 101 WITH LP ADVISER ALEKSEY CHERNOBELSKIY
   
   MAY 28TH, 2024  |  SEASON 3  |  27 MINS 41 SECS
   
   BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, DISTRESS, INVESTING, MULTIFAMILY, NEW YORK
   CITY, NEWS, REAL ESTATE, REAL ESTATE NEWS, REAL ESTATE SYNDICATION, RETAIL
   INVESTMENT, SUN BELT, SYNDICATION
   
   The Real Deal's Deconstruct chats with Aleksey Chernobelskiy, who advises
   retail investors and limited partners in real estate syndications.


 * DEVELOPER SAM CHARNEY DISSECTS NEW YORK'S 421A EXTENSION AND NEW TAX BREAK ON
   THE BLOCK 485X
   
   MAY 20TH, 2024  |  SEASON 3  |  26 MINS 55 SECS
   
   Last month, Gov. Kathy Hochul passed a bombshell housing deal that extended
   the 421a tax abatement and introduced a new tax break for apartment projects:
   485x. Developer Sam Charney of Charney Companies talks the profit potential
   of 485x compared to 421a, demand for sites eligible for the extension and
   when rental construction will ramp back up.


 * DECONSTRUCT LIVE! TALKS BANK FAILURES, MULTIFAMILY FEARS WITH FORTRESS,
   BENEFIT STREET AND URBAN STANDARD
   
   MAY 13TH, 2024  |  SEASON 3  |  30 MINS 22 SECS
   
   BENEFIT STREET PARTNERS, CRE, DISTRESS, FORTRESS, LENDING, URBAN STANDARD
   CAPITAL
   
   It's Deconstruct Live! at The Real Deal's New York Forum. Fortress' Steve
   Stuart, Benefit Street Partners' Mike Comparato and Urban Standard Capital's
   Seth Weissman talk bank failures, distressed note buying and lending demand
   in a live taping of Deconstruct.


 * WHAT MARIJUANA'S RECLASSIFYING MEANS FOR POT SHOPS AND CANNABIS CAPITAL
   
   MAY 6TH, 2024  |  SEASON 3  |  21 MINS 31 SECS
   
   CANNABIS, DEA, MARIJUANA, REIT, SCHEDULE I, SCHEDULE III
   
   Last week, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration said it would move toward
   reclassifying marijuana as a less dangerous drug — Schedule III instead of
   Schedule I. The move has big implications for the intersection of cannabis
   and real estate. Founder and CEO of cannabis REIT NewLake Capital Partners
   Anthony Coniglio talks tax relief and opportunity.


 * LOOKING AT THE LEGISLATION CRITICAL TO MAKING OFFICE-TO-RESIDENTIAL
   CONVERSIONS WORK
   
   APRIL 29TH, 2024  |  SEASON 3  |  32 MINS 41 SECS
   
   BOBBY FIJAN, BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, CONVERSIONS, DEVELOPMENT,
   DISTRESS, FINANCING, FORM DEVELOPERS, HOUSING, INVESTING, LEGISLATION, NEW
   YORK CITY, NEWS, OFFICE, OFFICE-TO-RESI, OFFICE-TO-RESIDENTIAL, POLICY, REAL
   ESTATE, REAL ESTATE NEWS, ZONING
   
   The Real Deal's Deconstruct chats with Philadelphia-based developer Bobby
   Fijan of Form Developers about what legislation, policies, subsidies and
   programs have helped push forward office-to-residential conversions.

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