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<span class="posted" title="" data-time="2012-01-13 22:11:53Z"> - 2012-01-13 22:11:53 UTC </span>
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<div id="forum_ctl00_MessageList_ctl00_DisplayPost1_MessagePost1">Hey guys. <br><br>So, I've been running a rigged mission domi for some time now. After a good amount of missions and trading, I've got just enough so, if I sell my
rigged domi at a little below real value with rigs, I'd be able to outfit a Navy Domi.<br><br>So, I go to Jita and offer a sale of my domi for 95mil, send out the message a few times. The rigs were 1x Sentry Drone Damage Aug, 1x
Large Nanobot, 1x Large Aux Nano Pump<br><br>I get a trade offer, the window pops up. I throw my Domi in to see if that's what he's inquiring about, and I see 95mil in green show up, along with his accept checkmark. I accept as
well, and it goes through.<br><br>But I never got the 95mil.<br><br>Character is Marhaba. He proceeds to say in Jita chat "Thanks for the free domi ;)."<br><br>Considering that that ship was my largest asset, I'm pretty
infuriated. I don't know if this was some bug, scam, or what. Would CCP listen to a petition?<br><br>What do I do from here?</div>
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<span class="posted" title="" data-time="2012-01-13 22:14:08Z"> - 2012-01-13 22:14:08 UTC </span>
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<p>PvP's latest incentive program ** Unified Inventory ** 'Cause you gotta kill something after trying to use it</p>
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<span class="posted" title="" data-time="2012-01-13 22:16:06Z"> - 2012-01-13 22:16:06 UTC </span>
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<div id="forum_ctl00_MessageList_ctl02_DisplayPost1_MessagePost1">Never use the trade window. It's almost always a scam.<br><br>Contracts every time.<div class="yafsignature">
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<div id="forum_ctl00_MessageList_ctl03_DisplayPostAlt_MessagePost1">never use the trade window<br>you got lag scammed<br><br>petition it</div>
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<span class="posted" title="" data-time="2012-01-13 22:18:08Z"> - 2012-01-13 22:18:08 UTC </span>
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<div id="forum_ctl00_MessageList_ctl04_DisplayPost1_MessagePost1">The trade window is terrible, and vulnerable to sleight of hand - and you shouldn't use it for commerce.<br><br>What probably happened was they put in 95 million,
then zeroed it *and then hit accept*, and you didn't notice them zeroing the value before you hit accept.<br><br>Use the contract system instead.</div>
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<span class="posted" title="" data-time="2012-01-13 22:18:20Z"> - 2012-01-13 22:18:20 UTC </span>
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<div id="forum_ctl00_MessageList_ctl05_DisplayPostAlt_MessagePost1">never<br><br>ever<br><br>ever<br><br>use the trade window when you could use a contract. This is an old scheme, and it's unlikely your petition would result in
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<div class="innerquote outmost">The trade window is terrible, and vulnerable to sleight of hand - and you shouldn't use it for commerce.<br><br>What probably happened was they put in 95 million, then zeroed it *and then hit
accept*, and you didn't notice them zeroing the value before you hit accept.<br><br>Use the contract system instead.</div>
</div><br><br>Nope, I'm aware of that tactic. The 95mil was there. Not only was it there, but if it were modified within a short time frame within hitting accept, there would have been a notification (if I'm not mistaken, I've
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<div class="innerquote outmost"> and it's unlikely your petition would result in anything. Chalk it up as an eve lesson and get back at it.</div>
</div><br><br>Well this is unacceptable. That ship is worth 1/3 of my savings in the game, and I lost it due to poor game mechanics. I shouldn't be liable for unsatisfactory trade window code.
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<span class="posted" title="" data-time="2012-01-13 22:24:55Z"> - 2012-01-13 22:24:55 UTC </span>
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<div id="forum_ctl00_MessageList_ctl08_DisplayPost1_MessagePost1">I agree, lesson learned, nothing you can really do, however, it stuff like this that is bush league - not the scam itself, but the damn interface and it causes
players to leave.<br><br>CCP, fix your damn anitquated 1985 interface. <br><br>You didnt get scammed by a player, you got scammed by CCP.<br><br>Lag scammed? Only in EVE can something so stupid take place.<br><br>Fix that ****.
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<div class="quote"><b>Seatox wrote:</b>
<div class="innerquote">The trade window is terrible, and vulnerable to sleight of hand - and you shouldn't use it for commerce.<br><br>What probably happened was they put in 95 million, then zeroed it *and then hit
accept*, and you didn't notice them zeroing the value before you hit accept.<br><br>Use the contract system instead.</div>
</div><br><br>Nope, I'm aware of that tactic. The 95mil was there.<br><br>
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<div class="innerquote"> and it's unlikely your petition would result in anything. Chalk it up as an eve lesson and get back at it.</div>
</div><br><br>Well this is unacceptable. That ship is worth 1/3 of my savings in the game, and I lost it due to poor game mechanics. I shouldn't be liable for unsatisfactory trade window code.
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</div><br><br>if you haven't been bankrupt by a scam or gank at least once, you haven't been playing EVE<br>They wont admit it, but everyone here has had it happen in some form or another at least once<br>
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<div class="innerquote">The trade window is terrible, and vulnerable to sleight of hand - and you shouldn't use it for commerce.<br><br>What probably happened was they put in 95 million, then zeroed it *and then hit
accept*, and you didn't notice them zeroing the value before you hit accept.<br><br>Use the contract system instead.</div>
</div><br><br>Nope, I'm aware of that tactic. The 95mil was there.<br><br>
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<div class="innerquote"> and it's unlikely your petition would result in anything. Chalk it up as an eve lesson and get back at it.</div>
</div><br><br>Well this is unacceptable. That ship is worth 1/3 of my savings in the game, and I lost it due to poor game mechanics. I shouldn't be liable for unsatisfactory trade window code.
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</div><br><br>if you haven't been bankrupt by a scam or gank at least once, you haven't been playing EVE<br>They wont admit it, but everyone here has had it happen in some form or another at least once<br>
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</div><br><br>Well then, My 4 year old character shouldn't exist, eh?<br><br>I'm not gonna accept that, sorry. CCP is gonna have to get back to me on this one.
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<div class="innerquote">The trade window is terrible, and vulnerable to sleight of hand - and you shouldn't use it for commerce.<br><br>What probably happened was they put in 95 million, then zeroed it *and then hit
accept*, and you didn't notice them zeroing the value before you hit accept.<br><br>Use the contract system instead.</div>
</div><br><br>Nope, I'm aware of that tactic. The 95mil was there.<br><br>
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</div><br><br>Well this is unacceptable. That ship is worth 1/3 of my savings in the game, and I lost it due to poor game mechanics. I shouldn't be liable for unsatisfactory trade window code.
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</div><br><br>if you haven't been bankrupt by a scam or gank at least once, you haven't been playing EVE<br>They wont admit it, but everyone here has had it happen in some form or another at least once<br>
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</div><br><br>Yea but the point still stands, CCP needs to fix dumb **** like this. You may not have the resources of Blizzard but damn, you cant make a properly working trade window? Really? C'mon CCP...<div
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hit accept*, and you didn't notice them zeroing the value before you hit accept.<br><br>Use the contract system instead.</div>
</div><br><br>Nope, I'm aware of that tactic. The 95mil was there.<br><br>
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<div class="innerquote"> and it's unlikely your petition would result in anything. Chalk it up as an eve lesson and get back at it.</div>
</div><br><br>Well this is unacceptable. That ship is worth 1/3 of my savings in the game, and I lost it due to poor game mechanics. I shouldn't be liable for unsatisfactory trade window code.
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</div><br><br>if you haven't been bankrupt by a scam or gank at least once, you haven't been playing EVE<br>They wont admit it, but everyone here has had it happen in some form or another at least once<br>
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</div><br><br>Yea but the point still stands, CCP needs to fix dumb **** like this. You may not have the resources of Blizzard but damn, you cant make a properly working trade window? Really? C'mon CCP...
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<div class="innerquote outmost">Are you sure you saw 95.000.000.00 and not 95.000.00?<br><br>Remember to ALWAYS count the digits and subtract by two (as those last two are "cents").<br><br>Yeah... dumb interface deatails
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These forums have been archived and are now read-only. The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/ EVE GENERAL DISCUSSION * Forum Index EVE Forums » EVE Communication Center » EVE General Discussion » Scammed, and not sure how. * Topic is locked indefinitely. 123Next pageLast page Goto page... Scammed, and not sure how. First post Author Previous Topic Next Topic DEEP CORE MINING INC. CALDARI STATE * 49 Zarcan Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 49 #1 - 2012-01-13 22:11:53 UTC | Edited by: Zarcan Hey guys. So, I've been running a rigged mission domi for some time now. After a good amount of missions and trading, I've got just enough so, if I sell my rigged domi at a little below real value with rigs, I'd be able to outfit a Navy Domi. So, I go to Jita and offer a sale of my domi for 95mil, send out the message a few times. The rigs were 1x Sentry Drone Damage Aug, 1x Large Nanobot, 1x Large Aux Nano Pump I get a trade offer, the window pops up. I throw my Domi in to see if that's what he's inquiring about, and I see 95mil in green show up, along with his accept checkmark. I accept as well, and it goes through. But I never got the 95mil. Character is Marhaba. He proceeds to say in Jita chat "Thanks for the free domi ;)." Considering that that ship was my largest asset, I'm pretty infuriated. I don't know if this was some bug, scam, or what. Would CCP listen to a petition? What do I do from here? * 197 Zleon Leigh Likes received: 197 #2 - 2012-01-13 22:14:08 UTC Petition Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital. CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day PvP's latest incentive program ** Unified Inventory ** 'Cause you gotta kill something after trying to use it FUZZWORK ENTERPRISES VOTE STEVE RONUKEN FOR CSM * 6,759 Steve Ronuken Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM Likes received: 6,759 #3 - 2012-01-13 22:16:06 UTC 4 Never use the trade window. It's almost always a scam. Contracts every time. Woo! CSM XI! Fuzzwork Enterprises Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter THE GREATER GOON CLOCKWORK PINEAPPLE * 2,023 Morganta The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple Likes received: 2,023 #4 - 2012-01-13 22:17:57 UTC never use the trade window you got lag scammed petition it THE SCOPE GALLENTE FEDERATION * 67 Seatox The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 67 #5 - 2012-01-13 22:18:08 UTC The trade window is terrible, and vulnerable to sleight of hand - and you shouldn't use it for commerce. What probably happened was they put in 95 million, then zeroed it *and then hit accept*, and you didn't notice them zeroing the value before you hit accept. Use the contract system instead. BRUTOR TRIBE MINMATAR REPUBLIC * 1,353 Feligast Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 1,353 #6 - 2012-01-13 22:18:20 UTC never ever ever use the trade window when you could use a contract. This is an old scheme, and it's unlikely your petition would result in anything. Chalk it up as an eve lesson and get back at it. MUSE LLP RAZOR ALLIANCE * 452 Maxpie MUSE LLP RAZOR Alliance Likes received: 452 #7 - 2012-01-13 22:22:11 UTC Definitely petition. Definitely do not use the trade window. A good red flag is when someone asks to use it. Always do a contract instead. If they balk or give excuses why they cannot use a contract, you can now be sure they are scamming. No good deed goes unpunished Zarcan Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 49 #8 - 2012-01-13 22:22:18 UTC | Edited by: Zarcan Seatox wrote: The trade window is terrible, and vulnerable to sleight of hand - and you shouldn't use it for commerce. What probably happened was they put in 95 million, then zeroed it *and then hit accept*, and you didn't notice them zeroing the value before you hit accept. Use the contract system instead. Nope, I'm aware of that tactic. The 95mil was there. Not only was it there, but if it were modified within a short time frame within hitting accept, there would have been a notification (if I'm not mistaken, I've seen it before: ""Warning: your client has modified your order. Do you still want to accept?" Or something.). Feligast wrote: and it's unlikely your petition would result in anything. Chalk it up as an eve lesson and get back at it. Well this is unacceptable. That ship is worth 1/3 of my savings in the game, and I lost it due to poor game mechanics. I shouldn't be liable for unsatisfactory trade window code. THE SCOPE GALLENTE FEDERATION * 747 Montevius Williams The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 747 #9 - 2012-01-13 22:24:55 UTC 4 I agree, lesson learned, nothing you can really do, however, it stuff like this that is bush league - not the scam itself, but the damn interface and it causes players to leave. CCP, fix your damn anitquated 1985 interface. You didnt get scammed by a player, you got scammed by CCP. Lag scammed? Only in EVE can something so stupid take place. Fix that ****. "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB Morganta The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple Likes received: 2,023 #10 - 2012-01-13 22:29:57 UTC 3 Zarcan wrote: Seatox wrote: The trade window is terrible, and vulnerable to sleight of hand - and you shouldn't use it for commerce. What probably happened was they put in 95 million, then zeroed it *and then hit accept*, and you didn't notice them zeroing the value before you hit accept. Use the contract system instead. Nope, I'm aware of that tactic. The 95mil was there. Feligast wrote: and it's unlikely your petition would result in anything. Chalk it up as an eve lesson and get back at it. Well this is unacceptable. That ship is worth 1/3 of my savings in the game, and I lost it due to poor game mechanics. I shouldn't be liable for unsatisfactory trade window code. if you haven't been bankrupt by a scam or gank at least once, you haven't been playing EVE They wont admit it, but everyone here has had it happen in some form or another at least once Zarcan Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 49 #11 - 2012-01-13 22:31:12 UTC Morganta wrote: Zarcan wrote: Seatox wrote: The trade window is terrible, and vulnerable to sleight of hand - and you shouldn't use it for commerce. What probably happened was they put in 95 million, then zeroed it *and then hit accept*, and you didn't notice them zeroing the value before you hit accept. Use the contract system instead. Nope, I'm aware of that tactic. The 95mil was there. Feligast wrote: and it's unlikely your petition would result in anything. Chalk it up as an eve lesson and get back at it. Well this is unacceptable. That ship is worth 1/3 of my savings in the game, and I lost it due to poor game mechanics. I shouldn't be liable for unsatisfactory trade window code. if you haven't been bankrupt by a scam or gank at least once, you haven't been playing EVE They wont admit it, but everyone here has had it happen in some form or another at least once Well then, My 4 year old character shouldn't exist, eh? I'm not gonna accept that, sorry. CCP is gonna have to get back to me on this one. Feligast Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 1,353 #12 - 2012-01-13 22:33:09 UTC Good luck with that And I'm so glad you found the money to form your own corp a few minutes ago. Not so broke, huh? Zarcan Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 49 #13 - 2012-01-13 22:34:21 UTC 4 Feligast wrote: Good luck with that And I'm so glad you found the money to form your own corp a few minutes ago. Not so broke, huh? ... it costs a measly 1.5mil to make a corp, and I made it hours ago. The scam happened about 20 minutes ago. Can you do basic math? Or do I have to spell out why your post is irrelevant on both accounts? Montevius Williams The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 747 #14 - 2012-01-13 22:35:07 UTC Morganta wrote: Zarcan wrote: Seatox wrote: The trade window is terrible, and vulnerable to sleight of hand - and you shouldn't use it for commerce. What probably happened was they put in 95 million, then zeroed it *and then hit accept*, and you didn't notice them zeroing the value before you hit accept. Use the contract system instead. Nope, I'm aware of that tactic. The 95mil was there. Feligast wrote: and it's unlikely your petition would result in anything. Chalk it up as an eve lesson and get back at it. Well this is unacceptable. That ship is worth 1/3 of my savings in the game, and I lost it due to poor game mechanics. I shouldn't be liable for unsatisfactory trade window code. if you haven't been bankrupt by a scam or gank at least once, you haven't been playing EVE They wont admit it, but everyone here has had it happen in some form or another at least once Yea but the point still stands, CCP needs to fix dumb **** like this. You may not have the resources of Blizzard but damn, you cant make a properly working trade window? Really? C'mon CCP... "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB Zarcan Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 49 #15 - 2012-01-13 22:39:43 UTC Montevius Williams wrote: Morganta wrote: Zarcan wrote: Seatox wrote: The trade window is terrible, and vulnerable to sleight of hand - and you shouldn't use it for commerce. What probably happened was they put in 95 million, then zeroed it *and then hit accept*, and you didn't notice them zeroing the value before you hit accept. Use the contract system instead. Nope, I'm aware of that tactic. The 95mil was there. Feligast wrote: and it's unlikely your petition would result in anything. Chalk it up as an eve lesson and get back at it. Well this is unacceptable. That ship is worth 1/3 of my savings in the game, and I lost it due to poor game mechanics. I shouldn't be liable for unsatisfactory trade window code. if you haven't been bankrupt by a scam or gank at least once, you haven't been playing EVE They wont admit it, but everyone here has had it happen in some form or another at least once Yea but the point still stands, CCP needs to fix dumb **** like this. You may not have the resources of Blizzard but damn, you cant make a properly working trade window? Really? C'mon CCP... A petition has been filed. I'll keep the thread updated on how CCP deals with it, so we can hold them accountable. PHOTOSYNTH * 4,043 Vincent Athena Photosynth Likes received: 4,043 #16 - 2012-01-13 22:42:52 UTC Hm, I wondered how that worked. I had someone offer me a ship for well below cost, a trade window popped up along with the ship. I could not figure out how such a scam would work, but this being eve I closed the trade window. Lag scam? So they zeroed the amount and hit accept at just the right time so the OP never saw it happen due to lag? Know a Frozen fan? Check this out Frozen fanfiction Zarcan Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 49 #17 - 2012-01-13 22:50:07 UTC Vincent Athena wrote: Hm, I wondered how that worked. I had someone offer me a ship for well below cost, a trade window popped up along with the ship. I could not figure out how such a scam would work, but this being eve I closed the trade window. Lag scam? So they zeroed the amount and hit accept at just the right time so the OP never saw it happen due to lag? Is there not supposed to be a notification window if the client modifies his order within like 3 seconds of pressing the accept button? I could have sworn I've seen it before. ICE FIRE WARRIORS INFINITE PEW * 11,726 ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Infinite Pew Likes received: 11,726 #18 - 2012-01-13 22:53:29 UTC | Edited by: ShahFluffers Are you sure you saw 95.000.000.00 and not 95.000.00? Remember to ALWAYS count the number of digits and subtract by two (as those last two are "cents"). Yeah... dumb interface deatails thingy. But somehow... I have this nagging suspicion that CCP made it this way on purpose for this exact reason. How did you Veterans start? Zarcan Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 49 #19 - 2012-01-13 22:55:03 UTC | Edited by: Zarcan 6 ShahFluffers wrote: Are you sure you saw 95.000.000.00 and not 95.000.00? Remember to ALWAYS count the digits and subtract by two (as those last two are "cents"). Yeah... dumb interface deatails thingy. But somehow... I have this nagging suspicion that CCP made it this way on purpose for this exact reason. Yes, considering there was no exchange of money whatsoever according to my transactions journal. Also, hooray for my first forum like recieved. \o/ Zleon Leigh Likes received: 197 #20 - 2012-01-13 23:01:16 UTC Another example of how scammers get off without consequences... he'll never leave the station, never have sec status where you could even put a bounty on him (even though that is a totally f'd up mechanic as well) Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital. CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day PvP's latest incentive program ** Unified Inventory ** 'Cause you gotta kill something after trying to use it 123Next pageLast page Goto page... EVE Online CCP Games Website Terms of Service Privacy Policy Copyright © CCP 1997-2022