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1. March 6, 2024, 7:54 PM #1
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[TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> Kevin Weekes
> @KevinWeekes
> ·
> 47s
> **Breaking News ** �� ��
> Credit
> @DarrenDreger
> who was on the case, I’m told the
> @GoldenKnights
> are trading for
> @NHLFlames
> D Hanifin.
> #HockeyX
> @INEOSGrenadier
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>
>
> Chris Johnston
> @reporterchris
> ·
> 1m
> Can confirm that Noah Hanifin is heading to #VGK.
> 12 team H2H Most Cats Wins; Keep 6/winner keeps 7; G A PPP +/- SHP SOG
> HIT BLK PIM // W SV GAA SV% SHO
> 3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 6D, 2G, 5 bench
>
> C - McDavid, Crosby
> LW - Boldy, Lafreniere
> RW - Meier, Miller
> D -
> G -
>
> RIP Johnny and Matthew Gaudreau
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2. March 6, 2024, 7:58 PM #2
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RE: [TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> Contract extension expected as well
> 12 team H2H Most Cats Wins; Keep 6/winner keeps 7; G A PPP +/- SHP SOG
> HIT BLK PIM // W SV GAA SV% SHO
> 3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 6D, 2G, 5 bench
>
> C - McDavid, Crosby
> LW - Boldy, Lafreniere
> RW - Meier, Miller
> D -
> G -
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> RIP Johnny and Matthew Gaudreau
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3. March 6, 2024, 8:11 PM #3
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RE: [TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> Wow. Cap circumvention strikes again.
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4. March 6, 2024, 8:45 PM #4
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RE: [TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> Originally Posted by hockeyrobot
> Wow. Cap circumvention strikes again.
> Anyone want to bet Stone will be ready for game 1? I know. I know.
> Lacerated kidney- fool me once......
> 10 Team, 60 Player Roster
> G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
> C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson,
> Danualt, Hayton
> RW- Raymond, Stone, TWilson, Toffoli, KJohnson, Nyqvist, Zary
> LW- Keller, Schmaltz, Bunting, Skinner, Barbashev, Duclair
> D- QHughes, McAvoy, Doughty, Heiskanen, Hronek, LHughes, Mintyukov, Evans
> G- Shesterkin, Lankinen, Demko, Andersen, Blackwood, Levi, Tarasov
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5. March 6, 2024, 8:53 PM #5
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RE: [TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> It’s not cap circumvention it’s following the rules in place. It’s not
> magic when Stone gets healthy it’s medicine. Vegas follows the same rules
> available to every team. The NHL investigates every injury. This argument
> is so weak and tired and fragile.
>
> FWIW, Dreger is reporting an extension coming, Friedge is reporting it
> isn’t. So. Who knows.
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6. March 6, 2024, 9:43 PM #6
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RE: [TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> Did NOT see VGK adding a D... pretty stunned tbh.
>
> I had such high hopes for Hague to move into the top 4 next season...
> this muddies things to say the least.
> RHRS, Yahoo, 12-team, Roto
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> Hanson Bros., Fantrax, 10-Team, Keep 8, weighted scoring
> Black & Blue, Fantrax, 12-Team, Dynasty, H2H weighted
> The Dream Team League, Fantrax, 14-Team, Dynasty, H2H
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7. March 6, 2024, 11:33 PM #7
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RE: [TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> we are going to be so bored on Friday!
> 14 Teams H2H Dynasty, 28 roster spots (8 bench), 15 minors under 100
> Weekly Matchups - Daily Lineups
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> Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
> Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO
>
> C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
> LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
> RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
> D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
> G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones
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8. March 6, 2024, 11:52 PM #8
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RE: [TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> Miramanov, 1st, 2nd. Conroy loves getting cooked up lol.
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9. March 7, 2024, 12:06 AM #9
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RE: [TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> Originally Posted by rataylor22
> Miramanov, 1st, 2nd. Conroy loves getting cooked up lol.
> Yep and its a 2025 1st not this year. So a long wait to see what they
> eventually get with that 1st.
> Perhaps Conroy could of waited until deadline day to see if someone would
> send a sweeter offer.
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10. March 7, 2024, 12:37 AM #10
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RE: [TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> Did anyone read the conditions on the first going to Calgary? It's a 2025
> UNLESS Vegas trades that pick away before this year's deadline.
>
> So Conroy traded for a draft pick but he's still letting trade that pick
> away if THEY (Vegas) want to. Also, why does Conroy love Russians do much
> right now. Talk about not understanding or seeing the big picture.
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11. March 7, 2024, 6:26 AM #11
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RE: [TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> Originally Posted by rataylor22
> It’s not cap circumvention it’s following the rules in place. It’s not
> magic when Stone gets healthy it’s medicine. Vegas follows the same rules
> available to every team. The NHL investigates every injury. This argument
> is so weak and tired and fragile.
>
> FWIW, Dreger is reporting an extension coming, Friedge is reporting it
> isn’t. So. Who knows.
> https://twitter.com/strombone1/statu...959141047?s=19
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12. March 7, 2024, 7:28 AM #12
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RE: [TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> Originally Posted by hockeyrobot
> https://twitter.com/strombone1/statu...959141047?s=19
> LOL! Good old Lou.
>
> I have to agree with rataylor though. As much as we all can see what's
> going on, the GMs are the one's who continually let this happen because
> they won't bother asking to adjust the rules. Vegas has done nothing
> wrong or illegal. If (and safe to say we can all expect/predict it) Stone
> shows up in Game one again, like he has the past couple seasons after
> going on LTIR just before the trade deadline, it's really getting
> embarrassing for the league. I have no doubt there are "some" GMs who are
> barking at Bettman and the league to investigate but you have to think
> that the league takes these things seriously. Maybe at one point in time
> they didn't, but in today's game I am pretty sure they have their eyes
> wide open. That being said, the league needs the PA and GMs to work with
> them if they want to change the rules.
>
> It is what it is. Chicago started the train. TB followed them and now
> Vegas has learned how to work the holes. There's a handful of playoff
> teams today who currently don't have anyone in LTIR, but a lot of them
> do. This is not just a Vegas issue but a league issue. I have no doubt
> we'll be discussing this again next year. I wont be surprised it's not
> Mark Stone again too.
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> Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
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> "Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're
> wearing sunglasses."
>
> “To alcohol! The cause of … and solution to … all of life’s problems.”
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13. March 7, 2024, 7:46 AM #13
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RE: [TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> Oh I agree. But the rules in place allow for cap circumvention.
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14. March 7, 2024, 8:58 AM #14
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RE: [TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> Originally Posted by hockeyrobot
> Oh I agree. But the rules in place allow for cap circumvention.
> Sure, but it's not illegal and LTIR is actually in place for a reason.
> Could there be a tighter hold on the loop? Yes. Until all involved want
> that loop closed, this is the league and rules we have in place.
> 10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
>
> 25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
> Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
> Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
>
> Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins,
> Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi,
> Peterka, PKane, Bunting, NKovalenko, Luchanko, BClarke, Perreault
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> G- Vasilevskiy, Oettinger
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15. March 7, 2024, 11:51 AM #15
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RE: [TRADE] HANIFIN TO GOLDEN KNIGHTS
> I hate the LTIR circumvention during the deadline, but everyone has the
> same rules, so it is what it is. Maybe there's a way to keep the same
> rules for LTIR and cap "increase" but have it where you don't have access
> to that "overage" for outside players for 2 weeks.
>
> So Stone goes on LTIR March 1st, Vegas can recall players to fill his
> spot and use the overage cap space for those players, but a player coming
> into the organization can't use that space. So teams could paper
> transaction waiver exempt players to the minors, acquire a new player
> who's cap doesn't go to the overage allowance, then call up those paper
> transaction players. Or straight up waive players and risk losing them.
>
> But if Stone goes on LTIR Feb 23rd, Vegas can use the LTIR space on
> anyone March 8th.
>
> Or just have a 105% cap in the playoffs. Which this yr would be $87.675m
> (+$4.175m).
>
> Or make it kinda like MLB. For each round, you have to set a playoff
> roster. It needs to be cap compliant. If a player gets hurt and needs a
> replacement, they can't come back into the playoff series. Each series
> you submit your playoff series roster. Players who don't make the roster,
> make them go through Waivers. I don't know how much this would prevent
> these trades, but it would create speed bumps come the playoffs and would
> be crazy fun to see the waiver possibilities. Like right now, the Knights
> likely have Martinez and Howden back for the playoffs on D. They have 8 D
> right now, so 2-3 of their current D would likely be put on waivers
> (Hague, Hutton, Bjornfot). Forwards they likely get Stone and Carrier
> back, they likely lose 2 forwards (they have a few that are waiver
> exempt). I dunno, I'd love to see this, but 100% won't happen lol.
> 12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
> G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
> W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
> 2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA
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> C: Trocheck, Horvat, Kopitar, Stankoven
> LW: Hughes (C), Vatrano (C), McCann (C)
> RW: Michkov, Tolvanen (LW)
> D: Makar, Bouchard, Fox, Seider, Werenski
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> G: UPL, Kuemper, Levi
> IR: Landeskog (LW)
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