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URL: https://www.teslaownersonline.com/threads/diagnostic-port-and-data-access.7502/
Submission: On April 14 via api from DE — Scanned from DE

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 * Thread starter JWardell
 * Start date Jul 2, 2018
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JWARDELL

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Summary: updated Oct 2, 2019
This thread is our attempt to acquire and decode performance and other data from
the serial networks in the Model 3.
We finally gained access, recorded data, and decoded a lot of powertrain CAN
data in early 2019.
But there's still a lot more unknown! Additional help would be appreciated from
any data and software folks.
Please follow along in the thread to see progress, or skip towards the end to
jump into current discussions.

We also use this thread to detail our hardware and software projects to access,
decipher, analyze, and display the data.

Instructions to decode logs on your own

Below are some links to items in this thread:

Currently known CAN data spreadsheet

Model 3 DBC file

CANBus Analyzer software

SavvyCAN analysis and capture software

Model S CAN data spreadsheet

TMC Thread with Model S and connector information

Known CAN connector cables
2018 cars: Geotab - EVTV - GPSTA
2019 cars: e-mobility germany - EVTV - GPSTA

OBDLink MX+ strongly suggested for iOS and Android connection to apps and
loggers

ScanMyTesla app info:
https://teslaownersonline.com/threads/diagnostic-port-and-data-access.7502/post-226836

Latest CAN log, from v10:
https://teslaownersonline.com/threads/diagnostic-port-and-data-access.7502/page-54#post-257176

Some older logs that I made:
First capture
https://teslaownersonline.com/threads/diagnostic-port-and-data-access.7502/post-186027
Dual acceleration and regen
https://teslaownersonline.com/threads/diagnostic-port-and-data-access.7502/post-186339
Drive and Reverse
https://teslaownersonline.com/threads/diagnostic-port-and-data-access.7502/post-187857
Cold batt charge
https://teslaownersonline.com/threads/diagnostic-port-and-data-access.7502/post-189154
Charge and drive
https://teslaownersonline.com/threads/diagnostic-port-and-data-access.7502/post-190116
Cold battery drive, AP, charge
https://teslaownersonline.com/threads/diagnostic-port-and-data-access.7502/post-193237

My CANserver and microDisplay are now available to read and display all the fun
can bus data!



My original dash display:








Original Post:
I'm hoping some of us nerds can figure out together how to access CAN data in
the Model 3. I haven't found much information other than the existence of a
diagnostic port hidden somewhere unknown. It also sounds like it will be
ethernet with CAN embedded on another layer of data.

I'm hoping to figure all of this out and eventually make something that can grab
useful data, maybe even output data to a geek display (dare I say HUD?). It
should be possible. Now that my 3 is almost here I will finally have a patient
to operate on.

Does anyone have any knowledge of this or come across other useful information
that they can share?
 
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It's been a while since I read up on them, but over on TMC there are some very
techy threads, a couple of the guys that had totally hacked their S are over
there, Tesla is on top of their stuff. The security key's, VPN's used, back and
forth communication. It's quite impressive. Not to say it can't be done, but
most every time he would get close Tesla would shut the door on him.
 
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> JWardell said:
> Does anyone have any knowledge of this or come across other useful information
> that they can share?
> Click to expand...

Model S (and X) related:
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/diagnostic-port-index.98663/
 
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> scottf200 said:
> Model S (and X) related:
> https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/diagnostic-port-index.98663/
> Click to expand...


That's super helpful.

To be clear, I'm talking about the in-vehicle wired data networks, not the
cellular or wifi data.

It looks like MountainPass on TMC managed to access data and recommended looking
for a twisted pair under the dash in this thread:
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/2768432/

I have plenty of CAN interfaces and software including Vector which work great
if there is a physical CAN bus, but I was figuring the model 3 has moved
everything over to Ethernet which I'm not sure how to interface with yet.

The digging will start soon!
 

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They have that big screen on board, with some password that opens a maintenance
menu, I would think the CAN bus is obsolete?
 

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> JWardell said:
> To be clear, I'm talking about the in-vehicle wired data networks, not the
> cellular or wifi data.
> Click to expand...

I understood that.

I'm using 'Scan my Tesla' & 'TM-Spy' on my 2017 X via an ODBLink LX bluetooth
adapter and custom cable I bought on Etsy.
Scan My Tesla -- https://sites.google.com/view/scanmytesla/home
TM-Spy --
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/using-tm-spy-to-see-model-s-data.63051/



 

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> Mesprit87 said:
> They have that big screen on board, with some password that opens a
> maintenance menu, I would think the CAN bus is obsolete?
> Click to expand...

From the TMC post he pointed to MountainPass stated:


> We did a fair bit of CAN capturing with the car while we were down there and
> have decoded a lot of the common messages. There are some similarities to the
> Model S so we were able to get a head start on that a little bit. We had both
> analog signal coming from the M1 (shock pots, accelerometer, GPS), as well as
> a number of CAN signals.
> Click to expand...

and

> Q: How are you tying into the CAN bus on the 3?
> Click to expand...

> A: Search for twisted pair wires under the dash and you'll find what you are
> looking for
> Click to expand...

 

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> scottf200 said:
> I understood that.
> 
> I'm using 'Scan my Tesla' & 'TM-Spy' on my 2017 X via an ODBLink LX bluetooth
> adapter and custom cable I bought on Etsy.
> Scan My Tesla -- https://sites.google.com/view/scanmytesla/home
> TM-Spy --
> https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/using-tm-spy-to-see-model-s-data.63051/
> 
> 
> 
> Click to expand...


I know those exist and connection is relatively easy and documented on the X and
the S. But I thought the Model 3 had a new network system that might add an
additional network layer before you get to the can data. It's somewhat strange
no one has definitively posted it anywhere.
 

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I just noticed @Sasha Anis of Mountain Pass is here on M3OC...maybe they can
lend some extra details.
 

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Would also appreciate any details and photos or diagrams on bus and power
harness and connector locations, pinouts, body controllers locations, etc...
 

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The car has CAN absolutely! You can find them by looking under the driver-side
kick panel. Just look for twisted pairs in the harness and start poking at them
with your vector scanner. If its CAN it'll be throwing messages at you at
500kbps!

That's all we'll say for now, I hope it is helpful!
 
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> Sasha Anis said:
> The car has CAN absolutely! You can find them by looking under the driver-side
> kick panel. Just look for twisted pairs in the harness and start poking at
> them with your vector scanner. If its CAN it'll be throwing messages at you at
> 500kbps!
> 
> That's all we'll say for now, I hope it is helpful!
> Click to expand...


Thanks! And it looks like I'll have a specimen in a few days to try it on! Now
if only I could find a DBC file around somewhere.
 

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Some visuals here
 
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> 96s46p said:
> Some visuals here
> Click to expand...


Yep, just watched that video an hour ago and said hmm, I think I see a twisted
pair in there...
I should know more in the next week or so.
 
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I'm trying to probe around and find some CAN. The red and orange twisted pair
are easily accessible in the blue connector, and I see some kind of data signal
there, but it's almost as if the bits are RF modulated (see below). Scope can't
decode anything with any protocol, tried ground reference and across the pair.
The only other twisted pair I see is the extremely thin blue and white wires,
can't find where they terminate yet to probe them.
Any suggestions? @Sasha Anis
 
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Server is wonky, can't seem to add an image to the previous post...


 

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You know how it goes after you take a break after hours and go back to realize
there is an exposed white diagnostics connector upside-down on the ceiling right
above the dead pedal. Impossible to stick wires into so I could only hold them
making it difficult to manipulate the scope, but this is much more obviously CAN
data. There are two pairs, two CAN busses going to the four forward-most pins,
the pin closes to the driver is not connected.

Great news that it is a plug-and-play connector. But need to identify part and
order a plug to make an interface.




 
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I thought that was rumored to be a broadr reach interface that aggregates the
can bus data?
 

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> 96s46p said:
> I thought that was rumored to be a broadr reach interface that aggregates the
> can bus data?
> Click to expand...


We had previously theorized that, and maybe it is used throughout the car, but
certain folks have verified standard CAN data access. I'll continue to work on
it while I have time.
 

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Have you thought about connecting female leads to the pins individually? This
will be one of the first things I will do to try and connect one of the OBD2
Bluetooth parts. Not as elegant as having the mystery Sumitomo connector but at
least you wouldn't have to hold probes. If you do, let me know what size you
use.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if you don't need a BroadR interface. Looking at
the EDR cable I am cautiously optimistic.
 

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