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‎05-22-2024 02:54 PM
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HELP ME UNDERSTANDD

Jan 2019 I filed a chapter 13 bk, recognized it was not going to work and we had
it dismissed in May of 2019.  Lost a home to foreclosure that has since dropped
off the bureau, the auto loan with Global (formerly Alaska FCU) is still on
bureau and drops off in Feb 2025, so not quite a year left with that.  BK will
drop in Jan 2026.  All other derogs have dropped off the bureau.

 

Currently scores are:  Experian 644, Trans Union 651 and Equifax 674.  

 

Have re-established with 4 student loans on the bureau, 3 credit cards and 3
auto loans all paid 100% as agreed.  So why can I not get a decent credit card
now?  I've paid my dues for the bk, paid the 25%+ interest on 3 auto loans, make
good money with a 16% DTI not counting my rent and have had zero negs since the
bk.  

 

I went over to Navy FCU to try and get a decent credit card, nothing great, just
decent and was flat out denied.  They told me I could apply for their secured
card.  I already have 3 low limit cards ($300-$500 limits) that are unsecured so
why would I want to go back to secured?  

 

Any insight here would help.  Is it the Global FCU account?  

 

 


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‎05-22-2024 03:15 PM
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> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> @OGJerk wrote:
> 
> 
> Jan 2019 I filed a chapter 13 bk, recognized it was not going to work and we
> had it dismissed in May of 2019.  Lost a home to foreclosure that has since
> dropped off the bureau, the auto loan with Global (formerly Alaska FCU) is
> still on bureau and drops off in Feb 2025, so not quite a year left with
> that.  BK will drop in Jan 2026.  All other derogs have dropped off the
> bureau.
> 
>  
> 
> Currently scores are:  Experian 644, Trans Union 651 and Equifax 674.  
> 
>  
> 
> Have re-established with 4 student loans on the bureau, 3 credit cards and 3
> auto loans all paid 100% as agreed.  So why can I not get a decent credit card
> now?  I've paid my dues for the bk, paid the 25%+ interest on 3 auto loans,
> make good money with a 16% DTI not counting my rent and have had zero negs
> since the bk.  
> 
>  
> 
> I went over to Navy FCU to try and get a decent credit card, nothing great,
> just decent and was flat out denied.  They told me I could apply for their
> secured card.  I already have 3 low limit cards ($300-$500 limits) that are
> unsecured so why would I want to go back to secured?  
> 
>  
> 
> Any insight here would help.  Is it the Global FCU account?  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It's because you have a BK and charged off auto loan showing on your reports,
these will continue to hurt your chances with some lenders until they completely
drop from your reports. 

 

You could try with some BK friendly lenders such as Cap1 but you may end up
bucketed into a lower limit card.   Honestly getting a secured card with NFCU,
as much as you can afford to put into it, may be a better approach as it may
help other creditors approve you for larger limits. 

 

 

March2010 FICO® ~ 695 TU, 653 EQ, 697 EX
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‎05-22-2024 03:24 PM
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Is the auto loan reporting as a repo or CO, and is it reporting an unpaid
delinquent balance?  If so, that could easily be a reason for denial, as many
issuers will not want to extend a revolving unsecured line while an unpaid
delinquency is showing on an applicant's reports. 

 

(As an aside, I also want to point out that lenders include housing costs in DTI
calculations, so it would be a % that includes your monthly rent that Navy would
be working from.)



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‎05-22-2024 03:40 PM
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> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> @Slabenstein wrote:
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> Is the auto loan reporting as a repo or CO, and is it reporting an unpaid
> delinquent balance?  If so, that could easily be a reason for denial, as many
> issuers will not want to extend a revolving unsecured line while an unpaid
> delinquency is showing on an applicant's reports. 
> 
>  
> 
> (As an aside, I also want to point out that lenders include housing costs in
> DTI calculations, so it would be a % that includes your monthly rent that Navy
> would be working from.)
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^^^ This

 

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‎05-22-2024 06:42 PM
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RE: HELP ME UNDERSTANDD

you could get the Discover secured card that automatically graduates after a few
months; then you can easily request CLIs on their app. they are pretty generous
with limits over time. 

 

Imo you don't want to keep applying and getting denied. 

 

I used a feature on AMEX where you could get approved without a hard pull, and
they only did a hard pull if you were approved. I don't see it now (this was
about 1 year ago) 

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‎05-22-2024 08:17 PM
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RE: HELP ME UNDERSTANDD

You mention three low limit cards. Are you managing utilization? It's not enough
to pay in full every month. Utilization is based on the amount reported to the
bureaus. Most cards report the posted balance.  If you have a $500 credit limit
and post $300, that's a 60% utilization, which costs you points. Look up azeo
for the full story.  Short form, you want one card to post < 29% of its cl and <
9% of your total cl. The others should post zero.

Getting your score up will help approvals.

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‎05-22-2024 08:20 PM
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> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> @OGJerk wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> 
> I went over to Navy FCU to try and get a decent credit card, nothing great,
> just decent and was flat out denied.  They told me I could apply for their
> secured card.  I already have 3 low limit cards ($300-$500 limits) that are
> unsecured so why would I want to go back to secured?  
> 
>  
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Why go back to a secured card?  Higher limits will be easier to obtain.  After
my Chapter 13 I sucked it up and applied for a secured card with a $5,000 limit,
with the exception of my two CapOne cards (starting limits $3,000 and $2,000),
every card I've applied for since then has yielded a higher starting limit; my
most recent from NFCU was a $30,000 starting limit.  

Chapter 13:

 * Burned: AMEX, Chase, Citi, Wells Fargo, and South County Bank (now Bank of
   Southern California)
 * Filed: 26-Feb-2015
 * MoC: 01-Mar-2015
 * 1st Payment (posted): 23-Mar-2015
 * Last Payment (posted): 07-Feb-2020
 * Discharged: 04-Mar-2020
 * Closed: 23-Jun-2020

 

I categorically refuse to do AZEO!

In the proverbial sock drawer:

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‎05-22-2024 10:25 PM
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RE: HELP ME UNDERSTANDD

@HidalgoWhile Discover often graduates quickly (mine took 7.5mo to graduate and
get a CLI, it's not a guarantee.

Rebuild Started Nov 2021
June 2022 FICO 8:
June 2022 FICO 9:
Oct 2024 FICO 8:
Oct 2024 FICO 9:

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‎10-08-2024 02:33 PM
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RE: HELP ME UNDERSTANDD

Hey FicoMike, I keep track of the report dates for each card and normally have 2
of the 3 at zero each report date, the last one typically reports between $10
and $21 as it's balance with a $550 CL on it.  I use the cards for the same
exact living expense bills each month to snatch that small 1% cash back they
offer.  I'm a cheapskate.  

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‎10-08-2024 03:04 PM
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RE: HELP ME UNDERSTANDD

@OGJerk The BK and the auto charge off, as others have said, are deal breakers
for some prime issuers. However, your scores are also really low. Yes, some
prime cards will consider you at a 670, only your EQ exceeds that, and it barely
does. 



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