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Quote from: Adey5 on August 20, 2014, 02:57 AM
THIS is the inevitable consequence of promoting faith, the belief in something
with no evidence. Especially in gods of ancient barbaric times.
The insistence and demand among society in general that religious belief and
ideas, however absurd, should be automatically especially respected and
protected from criticism, scrutiny, questioning, mockery, ridicule and insult if
need be, is a comfortable environment for extreme beliefs to take root.
While I am in no way claiming that religious people are directly responsible for
what is happening in Iraq, and in other issues where religion plays a
detrimental part, but I think religious people and those who promote faith as a
virtue, and something to be encouraged, often with government and societal
support, need to take a long hard look at their religions.
Moderate and benign religious people in our comfortable democratic liberal
societies, who are free to pick and chose what part of religion they want to
follow, who I am sure are as horrified and appalled by what is happening in
Iraq, Syria etc, as we are, must now begin to accept that by promoting faith
they are unwittingly and unintentionally setting the scene for such extreme
groups, to blossom.
The average religious person who claims to gain comfort from their religion as
they think they will go to heaven and enjoy eternal youth with all their loved
ones, MUST now realise that this same religion that they insist must be
respected, is also simultaneously getting people beheaded, medical assistance
refused, children killed for witchcraft, mass kidnappings, terrorism, other
atrocities and injustices, and all sorts of messed up dangerous thinking, in
other poorer, less educated, and unstable parts of the world.
So as the lucky religious people who live in 'the west' get to enjoy meeting
grandma in the afterlife and lovely fables about nativities and magic angels to
make us feel all soft and fluffy, many poor sods elsewhere are getting their
heads detached, genetically mutilated, denied medical treatment, beaten and
ostracised, lack education, and are psychologically traumatised.
The 'benefits' of religious faith (believing things without evidence) are
unproven and minimal AT BEST, whereas the disadvantages, are tragic, real and
all too measurable.
Religious people and accommodationists need to get out of the idea as a society
that faith is something to be encouraged.
Rant over.
Quote from: happymurtad on February 13, 2013, 08:01 PM
If God does exist, then he already understands why we do not believe in him. He
made it that way. He must want it that way. He gave us minds that are capable of
distinguishing fact from bullshit, then deliberately made his religion sound
like bullshit.
He made the sacred texts of his religion sound virtually indistinguishable from
fairytales, and made sure that there were plenty of scientific errors,
historical inaccuracies, and examples of some of the most inhumane and brutal
torture tactics ever recorded all sprinkled evenly through out.
He made evolution make perfect sense and placed all the evidence for it to fit
perfectly where it would need to be were it true, from the fossil record to DNA
to the geographic diversity of the species.
He chose to send his messages at a time when humanity was technologically and
socially backwards, and to a part of the world that was among the most
backwards, then requires us to stay backwards in order to apply his will.
And lastly, after making his religion seem completely unbelievable, he made
salvation contingent upon doing the one thing that we can not choose to do:
believing. We can not make a choice to believe in things that we honestly do not
think are true.
Even if we were to DO all of the things that religions ask of us, if we do not
BELIEVE and SUPPORT 100% of the nonsense, 100% of the errors, 100% of the
atrocities, 100% of the inaccuracies, then there is no hope for us. If you do
not believe in even an iota of it, then in God;s point of view, you are already
screwed. He can roast your skin, beat your head, drive rods through your face,
and pour molten brass down your throat, all for not believing in things you had
plenty of reason to doubt. FOR EVER, by the way. That is 700 billion years,
times 900 billion years, plus another 700 billion, and another, times a million,
plus another hundred billion, times another, and another, and another...you get
the idea. Actually, no you do not. You can not. It is insane.
I am absolutely certain that a being of this magnitude of insanity is NOT the
most merciful God of the universe. He does not exist. You can stop worrying
about it and get on with the rest of your life.
Quote from: Luthiel on February 02, 2013, 05:06 AM
I can echo those here who say they would not want to wear any form of hijab, no
matter how mild, because of how it blatantly associates the wearer with Islam.
As I was working through my doubts before actually leaving Islam, this was one
of the things I struggled with. Having been living in an Islamic country at the
time, though, I could not have removed it without making serious waves at work
and within my social circle.
I was still living there when I finally did leave Islam. At that point, I did
not dare remove it. I feared it would have meant not only losing my social
circle, but risking my freedom and possibly my life if it led to the people
around me discovering the truth about my apostasy. And so I continued to wear it
for the longest four months of my life until I was able to leave the country.
A few weeks before I was to leave, I was contemplating how and when, if ever, I
would tell my closest Muslim friends that I could no longer believe. I decided I
could do a test run to see how they would react by admitting that I had thoughts
of removing the hijab. Just as I suspected, they reacted with pretty much an
intervention, and begged me to reconsider. One friend hastily forwarded a few
links about hijab in an attempt to convince me it was obligatory. In her haste,
she did not realize one of the links she sent me actually argued against the
necessity of hijab. When I pointed it out, she frantically apologized, and
proceeded to fling quote after quote from Quran, hadith, and various scholars in
an attempt to prove that hijab is required, and then bullied me into obeying
with statements like, {{Please remember, that any hadith is sunnah. And we must
follow the sunnah also.}}
With just days left in the country, I assured them they had convinced me and I
would keep the hijab. They seemed satisfied.
On the day I finally left, I was wearing a long skirt and a thin t-shirt under a
flowing black abaya with a black hijab wrapped lightly but securely around my
head. I boarded the plane and sat quietly, anxiously yet nervously awaiting my
stop in Amsterdam. I felt fine in my abaya and hijab. I knew by then how to wear
them comfortably, so I was not physically bothered. But I was acutely aware of
everyone who looked at me. {{I am on the plane now, I am home free. I do not
have to wear this anymore. Can they tell? Do they see the real me under these
shrouds?}} Because I could feel it sharply.
As soon as I arrived in Amsterdam, I headed straight for the restroom. My palms
were sweaty and my heart was racing in anticipation of what I was about to do. I
was a little shaky standing in the stall as I removed each piece one at a time,
folding carefully so they would take up the least amount of room in my bag. I
put on the jeans and tank top I had carried with me, and then I hesitated. This
was it. The end of the old me.
I was about to have full possession of my freedom.
Even more acutely aware of every glance, I stepped out of the restroom. I had
gone in quiet, somber, and shrouded. I came out tall, fresh, alive. Had anyone
noticed? It did not matter. The air on my skin gave me goosebumps to the core
and I gained confidence with every step. Before I knew it, the hijab was behind
me. And I have not looked back.
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