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RF 24mm F1.4 L VCM.

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Canon has announced two prime lenses: the RF 24mm F1.4 L VCM and RF 50mm F1.4 L
VCM. Both lenses are part of its new 'hybrid' series of lenses designed to work
with both EOS and Cinema EOS cameras.

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According to Canon, the new lenses are aimed at users who need to switch between
photo and video frequently or quickly, including professional shooters,
journalists and in-house production creators.

Both lenses are intended to match Canon's previously announced RF 35mm F1.4 L
VCM. All three lenses share the same design and have a unified exterior with the
same dimensions, at 77mm (3.0") in diameter and 99mm (3.9") long. They're also
very close in weight, ranging from 515g (1.1 lbs.) for the 24mm lens to 580g
(1.3 lbs.) for the 50mm lens. The 35mm lens sits in the middle at 555g (1.2
lbs.)

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RF 50mm F1.4 L VCM.

Image: Canon

In principle, the matched size, control layout, and similar weights should make
it much easier for video shooters to use the lenses on a video rig or gimbal
without requiring adjustments with each lens change.

Other common lens features include an iris ring for controlling aperture while
shooting (compatible with the EOS R5 II and EOS R1), customizable control and
focus rings, a lens function button, and a 67mm filter thread.

Optically, the 24mm F1.4 comprises 15 elements in 11 groups, including two UD
and one aspherical element. It has a minimum focus distance of 0.24m (9.4") and
a maximum magnification of 0.17x. Canon says it should be a good lens for
astrophotography, delivering sharp corners and stars without distortion.

The 50mm F1.4's design is made up from 14 elements in 11 groups, including one
UD and two aspherical lenses. It has a minimum focus distance of 0.4m (15.7")
and a maximum magnification of 0.15x.



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RF 24mm F1.4 L VCM mounted on the EOS R5 II.

Image: Canon

Both lenses include Canon's Air Sphere Coating, Super Spectra Coating and a
fluorine-coated front element. The wide-angle 24mm F1.4 also includes Canon's
Sub Wavelength Coating for controlling internal reflections from light
approaching with a high angle of incidence.

Canon claims both lenses will deliver fast, quiet and precise autofocus thanks
to a combination of VCM and Nano USM motors. Their independently-driven twin
focus group designs also allow the lens to achieve minimal focus breathing for
video work.

PRICE AND AVAILABILITY

The RF 24mm F1.4 L VCM and RF 50mm F1.4 L VCM are expected to be available in
December. The RF 24mm F1.4 L VCM has a suggested retail price of $1499, and the
RF 50mm F1.4 L VCM has a suggested retail price of $1399.

For additional information, please see Canon's press release.


RF 24MM F1.4 L VCM & RF 50MM F1.4 L VCM SPECIFICATIONS

 Canon RF 24mm F1.4 L VCMCanon RF 50mm F1.4 L VCMPrincipal specificationsLens
typePrime lensMax Format size35mm FFFocal length24 mm50 mmImage
stabilizationNoLens mountCanon RFApertureMaximum apertureF1.4Minimum
apertureF16Aperture ringYesNumber of diaphragm
blades11OpticsElements1514Groups11Special elements / coatings2 UD, 1 aspherical,
Canon ASC (Air Sphere Coating), fluorine coating1 UD, 2 aspherical, Canon ASC
(Air Sphere Coating), fluorine coatingFocusMinimum focus0.24 m (9.45″)0.40 m
(15.75″)Maximum magnification0.17×0.15×AutofocusYesMotor typeLinear MotorFull
time manualYesFocus methodInternalDistance scaleNoDoF scaleNoPhysicalWeight515 g
(1.14 lb)580 g (1.28 lb)Diameter77 mm (3.01″)Length99 mm (3.91″)Filter thread67
mmHood suppliedYesTripod collarNo

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kevin_r

Gone are the days of affordable f/1.4 lenses. Only NIKON seems to have their
heads in the right place. Canon and Sony seems to have lost the plot. But, hey,
that's business.
And what's with Sony? Why can't they just make a G line of complementary prime
lenses?
How about 20mm f/1.8G, 24mm f/1.8G, 24mm f/1.8G, 35mm f/1.8G, 43mm f/1.8G, 50mm
f/1.8G, 85mm f/1.8G and be done with it? Instead there's a plethora of strange
f-stops and other crazy mix that just doesn't make sense. But, it's their
business.

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PANASONIC-CANON-ProUser

Will Canon once again achieve to sell 1 million lenses more in the next years or
decades ? For me hard to believe. I stick with many FD lenses from my dad (incl.
the FD17mm) and my EF assortment (incl. EF 11-24 F4 L). Yes I have some RF (16
to 800 and in between) lens but not the L versions. Too €€€€. I stop investing
in Canon body & lenses.

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JustinSnapshots09

These new RF primes look awesome! The 50mm F1.4 seems like a great option for
portraits without the F1.2 price tag, and the 24mm F1.4 is perfect for low-light
and wide shots. Anyone thinking of picking one up? I'd love to hear thoughts,
especially if you've used the EF versions :)

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FelipeCastro

Nop

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kevin_r

Too expensive. Does Canon only sell to pros these days? There's a great market
for sensible f/1.8 or f/1.4 lenses. Just make a great complementary series like
NIKON did with the F -mount f/1.8G lenses at affordable prices of around
$600-$800 and get done.

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breschdlingsgsaelz

The 50 is huge and freaking expensive. Where is the successor or the EF 50 1.4
that people are waiting for since at least 15 years? A moderately priced, small
go-everywhere lens that has a little better sharpness wide open and less CAs in
an RF Mount version?
Or does canon think the f1.8 lens is "good enough"?

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DuxX

How can you motivate someone to buy a large, heavy and expensive f1.2 lens if
you offer an optically excellent, smaller, lighter and cheaper f1.4? Of course,
before all that, you lock the mount so that none of the third-party
manufacturers would do something similar and collect the money instead of you.

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Myles Baker

The RF 50 f1.4 while bigger & heavier than the EF version, is very similar in
size, weight & price to Sony's GM version released last year.

Canon RF 50 f1.4
Release date October 30 2024
Price:$1399
67mm filter thread
77mm dia x 99mm long
580g

Sony 50 f1.4 GM
Release date: February 23 2023
Price: $1298 ($1299.99 on release).
67mm filter thread
80.6mm dia x 96mm long
516g

Both are quite expensive.

Both have much smaller, lighter & cheaper f1.8 versions & bigger, heavier & more
expensive f1.2 versions.

Nikon decided to make their f1.8 versions to a higher quality & more expensive
than the traditional nifty fifty & make the f1.4 versions cheaper but not
optically as good.

Different concepts, neither one right or wrong.

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Dan_168

I bet a 50 F1.4 lens selling for $1400 USD will sell like a hot cake. LOL.

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madeinlisboa

https://youtu.be/RbZ-PTgftzk?si=Aoqks7KpAOjOxpyd

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solarider

Nice video, surprisingly good info.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPHdOLq0XA&t=326s

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sonygoingtocanon

Oy, with prices like that and pretty much no 3rd party options in FF RF… I’m
almost glad Canon refused to warranty my defective 5DIV a few years back. Been
enjoying 3rd party glass on other systems!

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jonby

Canon would have made a lot more people happy with a non-L RF version of the EF
50 1.4 with improved optics and AF for around half the price of these. This
release makes me question whether they will ever create such a thing - do Canon
see room for 4 tiers of 50mm?

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Andyyy

I agree but it's unlikely unfortunately. Maybe Canon will allow a third party to
fill the big gap between the 50 1.8 and 50 1.4L

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jonby

That would be nice, but won't hold my breath!

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Malling

Canon follow old recipes of 1.4 and 1.2 = high priced pro lenses just as Sony…
you can’t really fault them on that… Only Nikon decided to change that by making
1.8 more pro oriented than their 1.4 glass.

I don’t think it’s a problem if they actually allowed thirdpart into the mount
for cheaper alternatives

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eliehbk

Agreed! same way Nikon did with their new 35 and 50mm f1.4 lenses!

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dmartin92

You might be right, but not for me. The 50 will suit me just fine. It’s what I
wanted.

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Er20west

Almost all manufacturers are catering to hybrid hardware, not just photography
given the market preferences. Except for Pentax and well...

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breschdlingsgsaelz

Well, an overhauled 50 1.4 lens was overdue in DSLR days already. The EF 50 1.4
was released 31 years ago - it was not even made fit for digital. It was a lens
for film and was abandoned.

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Bigsensorisbest

One reason i went back to sony was the lack of 1.4 primes from Canon, i didnt
want huge 1.2 lenses, never mind. Even got aperture rings this is a good
direction for them

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FelipeCastro

This opening ring can only be used for video. Not for a photo.

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Bigsensorisbest

Felipe good grief thats bad! As a stills photographer i would be looking at that
ring constantly and feeling annoyed.

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Malling

Canon always seem to find ways to downgrade things good grief

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Tmjc

You can use it in photo mode as well, but only on cameras that came out after
the 35mm 1.4 VCM. So the R1 and R5 ii lol.
It might get addressed with a firmware update but until it's here I'm sceptical.

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lococola

Tmjc, even in these fringe cases the aperture ring is declicked only. Really
weird move by Canon, I don't understand what message they are trying to get
across.

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Malling

Only weird if you’re not accustomed to Canon practice it’s how Canon behaves
regardless of product it’s the same thing with their printers etc.

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AkinaC

I don't get why the clickable aperture ring has become "so important" on the
Internet.

For RF users, most of the lenses has a click-ish multi-function customisable
ring on the lens. The new designs with extra aperture only ring is further
increasing redundancy.

The ones who complained really just show they know nothing about how Canon RF
works. Stop using the limited mindset of Sony/Nikon/Panasonic /or whatever gears
that they've only used.

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lococola

Ah yes, the "limited" mindset of an aperture ring that can be both clicked and
declicked, versus the "unlimited" mindset of a declicked-only aperture ring,
that only works in video mode. As I said, I don't understand the reasoning of a
dedicated ring on a lens that is limited in functionality. Feel free to explain
to me "how Canon RF works" so I may learn something.

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Akina

Perhaps you should try using Sony and come back.. aperture works far superior on
Sony/Sigma implementations than the one Canon/Tamron/Samyang uses. Yes you read
it right Tamron and Samyang just like canon uses a multi function ring and it’s
horrible for apertures control, especially as it has no click or ability to be
placed at a corresponding aperture when off.

Ask people who do movies what they prefer, as they are accustomed to manual
lenses. This is after all what Sony/Sigma is trying to imitate and while it
doesn’t work as a mechanical coupled it’s certainly lot closer then a multi
function ring.

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Bigsensorisbest

Akina if you had any background in the film era aperture rings are a huge part
of the heritage of photography. When i went back to sony from canon those rings
on GM primes were one of the deciding factors.

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kevin_r

@AkinaC
I wonder if you've actually used the Sony 50mm with clicked/de-clicked aperture
ring. I've just used a rented one for an event shoot and I'm absolutely hooked.
Until you've used it in a fast action situation you'll keep on yapping away.

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Eugene L

Why all major full frame systems doesn't have 28mm lens which isn't a pancake?
24 is niche and 28 is even more versatile than 35.

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EDWARD ARTISTE

No its not..its just wider. 35 is darn wide already. 28 is for movie folk or
maybe taking pics of groups? hmm.

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Bigsensorisbest

Edward goodness no, i cant use 35mm i hate it, 28mm can do things, people,
landscape, travel, urbran. 35mm is too tight and claustrophobic. 24mm is too
wide. 28mm is perfect :-)

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Bigsensorisbest

Eugene welcome to sony, one non pancake thats old and unsuitable for modern
sensors, but its there!

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Malling

24mm is a standard today… been so for years why stand zooms now are 24-70 for
most part and not 28-70, today 28mm is viewed as the niche not 24

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Eugene L

@Malling
That was exactly my point. 24 is the standard. Not a reasonable one.

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Bigsensorisbest

Malling when youve only got a fixed lens 24mm is too wide, 28 is more usable.
Remember a couple of years back we got that fake picture of a sony 28mm 1.4 GM?
Lots of excited people including me :-(

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Malling

Manufactures make what sells and you rarely see people just walking around with
one prime, it was more normal 20 years ago but I rarely ever see it anymore,
either people have 2-3primes with them or they use zooms, latter is largely the
explanation why as those got a lot smaller, lighter and doesn’t really give much
up in terms of IQ today

So the whole it’s more useful in a single lens configuration is pretty niche.
That said I had a 28mm equivalent and a 150 for a long spell in SEA about 10
years ago, so it’s not because I necessarily disagree, but things changed a lot
since then.

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@Malling
I'm returning from the trip to Abu Dhabi tomorrow. I took my Fuji 16-80mm F4 and
18mm f1.4 with me. 99% of images were taken with 18mm lens. I have a lot of
primes but usually I end up bringing only one lens with me for short trips. I'd
probably be happy if I'd have only 18mm and 90mm lenses and nothing else. And
Canon RF doesn't have something like Fuji 18mm f1.4 at the moment. That 28mm
f2.8 is decent for a pancake but not the same.

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Eugenes right, 28mm can do everything like no other lens. When in traveling a
zoom can be too big and obvious and im not going to carry several primes. Im
thinking of a XT50 and the 18mm 1.4 sems one of few fuji lenses properly up to
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@Bigsensorisbest

Haha :P

TBH it took me have to shoot backstage/back-of-house to learn how to understand
35mm. It came purely from need to have a wider option than 50 which is my staple
length. 28 though...just sounds scary :P it's even wider..yikes

PS- I've watched some recent vids regarding 28 for video..looks interesting in
that regard.

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breschdlingsgsaelz

Everyone has their own shooting habits - I personally find the 35 the most
versatile of the three and 24 much more useable then 28. 28 always felt awkward
to me and I never owned one in "prime days", where you shot on film. And since I
shot slides primarily you needed to take the framing as is.

Nowadays with digital and high pixel count a 28mm FOV can be had quite easily by
cropping a picture made with 24. I see absolutely no reason to use one.

Might be different for you of course but I guess you are in a minority here.

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24mm distortes too much, 28mm is about as wide as you can go without obvious
wideangle characteristics. Try telling leica Q or Ricoh GR owners 28mm is a
minority focal length :-)

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Eugene L

> Everyone has their own shooting habits - I personally find the 35 the most
versatile of the three and 24 much more useable then 28.

I'm not saying that 35 is not usable (I own and use both 23mm f2 and 18mm f1.4
Fuji lenses). Only that 28 is more versatile. 28mm FOV is very similar to 35mm
to begin with. With close subjects you can mostly match the framing of the 35mm
lens by moving closer just a tiny bit. But not too close to cause significant
perspective distortion. With 24mm lens this is no longer the case. You have to
either move too close or corp.

But for subjects which are far away 28mm makes huge difference because you can
fit so much more into the frame. This is why 28mm is good for travel.

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Eugene, the difference between 24 and 28mm is around 15% while between 28 and 35
you have 25%. So it is much easier to crop a 28 image from 24 than a 35 out of
28. And if you dont't crop it gives a quite normal fov (35 is almost as close to
"normal" FL than 50 is). And having an out of focus background while showing the
Subject in it's Environment is easy. Not so easy with 28 or 24.
If you like 28 better, just fine. but 35 is more versatile. And 24 already gives
this dramatic Super Wideangle Look without having unnatural distortions.

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I think a combination of factors have lead to 28mm being less popular despite
still being a favorite of street photographers and many other shooters. For a
while there (the first maybe 6-8 years of smartphones) the main module on most
phones was typically 28-30mm (it's now more like 23-25mm tho, even on
iPhones/Pixels). Then you also had a ton of kit zooms starting at 28mm or
equivalent, even today the cheaper 3rd party f2.8 zooms start at 28mm...

It stands to reason that it's easier to sell everyone using a kit zoom or a
phone on something wider or more cinematic, hence the glut of 20/24mm options.
Then like others mentioned, the standard/normal for many has shifted slightly
from 50mm to 35mm, so in many instances people are buying a kit that fits around
that 35mm and 20/24 fit better under it than 28mm. I love shooting 20/35/75
myself.

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(continued) I'm not justifying any of it btw, just adding context, personally
I'd love to see more 28mm options beyond those from Fuji and Leica. I think in
certain multi prime kits it still makes more sense than 24 or 35mm, I prefer it
as a compliment to 50mm when I'm mainly shooting people. That's all it comes
down to tho, subjective preference.

If manufacturers saw lower sales for 28mm or they project lower sales, then it
almost becomes a self fulfilling prophecy... It's silly tho because we have so
much variety otherwise. Sigma probably didn't need 3x different 24mm DN options,
one of those could've been a 28mm, specially considering they made one of the
greatest 28mm ever.

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(cont.'d) Viltrox has made 2 now but one is a pancake and one wasn't a great
improvement on the old Sony 28/2... Similarly Nikon made a lower budget 28/2.8
but it seems well liked. If the GR series was any cheaper I'd probably own one
of them but I'm not sure if it'd be the 28 or the 40 equivalent... Even they saw
reason to stray from 28mm.

I think in RF land you'll be waiting a very long time for a high end 28mm prime,
doesn't Laowa sell the manual Argus 28/1.2 in RF tho?

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I dint know why sony wont do a 28mm GM lens. They do everything else

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Mateus1

wow, just one aspherical element... it has to be very expensive glass.

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very!

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Finally a 50/1.4, thought not the weight and price that people were hoping for.
I have EF 50/1.4, RF 50/1.8, Sigma 50/1.4 art. The first two are just terrible
wide open, and sigma is just too big and heavy. Really wished Canon would
release a sharp 50mm that's light, like sigma 50/2 dn dg. Happy to pay $600~800
for one. Perhaps Canon should allow Sigma to release the 50/2 in RF, since it
has no interest providing one?

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That price...sigh. Yeah My ef50 is permanently l used at 2.8 (maybe sneak a 2.5
shot in there sometimes)

1.4 on canon RF...1400.00 + tax minimum. A crying shame.

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lnsmr

No kidding. I am not even asking for some crazy performance like Voigtlander
50mm APO. Just a decent performance, like 35/1.8 RF, is good enough for me. Both
EF 1.4 and 50 1.8 need to be at least f2.8 to be usable.

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Tragic

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And depressing

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Just a quick reality check for those people whining about the prices. The EF 24
F1.4L II was released in 2008 at a price of $1799. That's $300 more than this RF
version, and, adjusting for inflation, that's $1135 more. The EF 35 F1.4L was
released in 1998 at a price of $1479, which is just $20 less than the current RF
version. Again, adjusting for inflation, the original EF 35L cost $2861, which
is almost twice the price of the current version. The EF 35 F1.4L II was
released in 2015 for $1799. I bought that original 35L in 2006 for $1400. It was
a fine lens, but the current RF version is much better. It's actually remarkable
that Canon has managed to keep the prices of the 24L and 35L below the release
prices of their immediate EF predecessors, and almost the same as the EF
versions that were released over 25 years ago. Anyone expecting an F1.4L prime
for a lower price than these is clearly delusional.

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MagicCH

One expects wide angles to cost more. The 50mm is a much simpler lens to design,
but understand Canon using all its latest coatings and glass, but the 50mm price
is still too high for what`s on offer. You are right re Canons high costs even
years ago compared to others, but they do make great lenses. Defining much
better has got more difficult, bring back blind testing with no EXIF data then
see how similar lenses compare. Canon are capable of making a lower cost F1.4,
but they like others now see a smaller market as phones do a lot of the low end
work these days. Volumes are down so costs go up to compensate for smaller sales
volumes and marketing come up with all sorts of new ideas to promote new
features that really offer little to the general photographer which is a shame.

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Alastair Norcross

Yes, I was talking about the 24 and 35, not the 50. I have both the RF 50 F1.8
and RF 50 F1.2, so I'm not interested in a third option. Given that you can get
the 50 F1.2 new for about $2100, and refurbished for quite a bit less, I would
think the new 50 would probably only appeal to videographers (and maybe some
stills shooters who want a faster focusing 50 for sports--but I never use that
length for sports).

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Hayden N

@Alastair Norcross
Well Nikon just released their 50mm F1.4 for $500 USD. Im sure the Canon lens is
better But not by enough to justify the huge price difference.

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EDWARD ARTISTE

Adjusting for inflation..yeah its one of those god to know but useless
information.

It doesnt make 1400.00 sound any better.

Its still a whopping 1400.00, and double the weight and length of the old ef.

1400 cant even get you stabilization. So much for all those silly arguments
about how "it will just add to the costs". Sure. Canon just being canon.

That said...the mtf chart looks really good. So theres that.

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I don't want this 24mm "fisheye" even for $999 :(

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Alastair Norcross

Hayden, sure, a $500 50 F1.4 would be nice, but probably wouldn't be good enough
to justify getting over the nifty 50. More realistically, something in the
ballpark of $800 (like the Sigma Art 50s) could be optically pretty good. This
Canon 50 is optimized for video shooters, though, which is probably why it's
more expensive. As I said, my post wasn't about the 50, which I have no interest
in (the RF 50 F1.2 is maybe the best lens I've ever used, along with the RF 135
F1.8, so I'd simply never use a lens in between the 50 F1.2 and the tiny 50
F1.8). Both the 24 and 35 seem to be priced about right for L lenses of that
length and quality, or even, as I said, a fair bit cheaper than I was expecting.
It's much harder to make an optically superb 24 than a 50. That Canon has done
it, and is charging less for it than the EF it replaces, is simply remarkable.

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Laqup

@Hayden N: The Nikon Z 1.4 lenses are for people that prefer "character" over
modern optical performance. It's like using the EF 50mm 1.4 with native RF
mount. If you like that kind of lenses and look great, but they are not modern
lenses whatsoever.
In some wide open scenarios the Nikon Z 1.8 primes look much smoother due to the
very busy bokeh of that new 1.4 series.

I guess there is a small market, but I have zero interest and would rather see
Canon develop high quality but compact 1.8 glass. The RF 50mm is another one is
those "retro lenses" and urgently needs a new optical formula, the 85 2.0 could
be faster (aperture and AF wise) and the 35 could be a bit sharper wide open and
have better characteristics as well (coma is very bad).
So please Canon, give us that high performance compact 1.8 glass instead of
"doing a Nikon "

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ecka84

I see no reason why Canon couldn't make a modern RF 58/1.8L IS USM for a change.
And a 20/1.8L, of course. But, unfortunately, they just don't care what we want.

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Impulses

EF isn't the watermark or the price people are gonna judge it against tho,
that'd be the GM's.

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One word: COMPETITION!!!!

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snegron22

If the 24 doesn't have IS, why is it so big/long?

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Alastair Norcross

It is 12mm longer than the EF 24 F1.4L II, 17mm narrower, and weighs 135gm less.
So it isn't as big or heavy as that lens, which also doesn't have IS.

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Stig Nygaard

I have no opinion on if it is big or not. Haven't studied other lenses enough to
tell.

But Canon seems deliberately to try to make the hybrid VCM trio lenses in very
similar size and weight to make them easy to handle for videographers. So maybe
one or two of them are a bit bigger than they needed to be?

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EDWARD ARTISTE

Because they want to sell the same sizing to the video people so they don't have
to change up their rigs/balancing.

So all the products suffer for the sake of canons marketing.

But really what else is new this is par for course for them.

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FasterQuieter

I am relieved they don't have IS. If they did, I would need to find $1,399 to
buy the 50mm.

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Swerky

“Other common lens features include an iris ring for controlling aperture while
shooting (compatible with the EOS R5 II and EOS R1”
Could we know why the use of the aperture ring is only compatible with those
models?
Some restraints going on here. Like that and the absence of lens IS for stills
shooters.
Ok I imagine at those prices, the lenses are aimed at shooters who already have
a stabilised body.

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MagicCH

Yes new lenses get added and Canon make great lenses, but a 50mm f1.4 for this
price, even if it is a bit faster, sorry photography has started to get silly. I
recently purchased a Canon FD f1.4 mk2 (yes 1980 Olympics), manual focus, but
lighter, smaller and optically very good for less than $100, and fine on
digital. Up to a point new lenses make sense, but the latest gear is starting to
get so expensive, wait for the new Sony A1II.

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sportyaccordy

It's only expensive if you only look at the most expensive gear, which has
always been the case. An RF 50 1.8 is better than any FD 50 and only costs like
$200.

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MagicCH

OK, but the FD lenses remain some of Canons best and Japanese origin. The RF 1.8
is still not worth the money sorry to say. Nifty 50`s are not where people are
using. My comment release to how Photography has got much more expensive in the
last 5 years. I use Nikon, Canon and Sony Full frame digital and still prefer a
lot of older film day lenses for image performance (yes they are manual focus).
People starting in Photography seem to think they need the latest gear to take
great images which is NOT the case. As mentioned Canon make great lenses but are
some of the most expensive today. A new R mount F1.4 for under $300 would be
considerably better for photographers.

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Myles Baker

Maybe photography wouldn't be quite so expensive if you didn't use 3 brands?
And which of the big 3 make new f1.4 primes for under $300?
There is also plenty of gear on the market from all brands, both new & used that
someone starting out in photography can buy and get a very good kit.

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Alastair Norcross

A new R mount F1.4 for under $300? Really? In what universe? The Sigma 56 F1.4,
which is coming to R mount in January, is $450-500, and worth every penny (I
have the EF-M version), and that's for crop cameras. The Sigma 50 F1.4 Art, for
full frame, is around $800. The old EF 50 F1.4 was more than $300 over 25 years
ago!

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MagicCH

Yes the issue is that the market continues to push new gear at a faster rate
than 10 years ago. IN film days flagship models came around about every 10 years
now they might last 4years or less. I use a lot of systems but buy new at the
lowest price and secondhand where it makes sense. In Switzerland SH gear with
virtually no use can cost substantially less than elsewhere. Having worked for
Fuji and worked with Canon they have a lot more capability than you may think,
but as mentioned the market has changed and volumes are no where near the golden
years.

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sportyaccordy

Again it's only as expensive as you make it. Your FD purchase shows that,
ironically. You don't have to buy the latest most expensive camera gear to enjoy
or engage in photography. The existence of stuff like this doesn't have any
effect on you.

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Yes Sigma lenses are good and underated, I started to use them 40+ years ago
(and still own three of its early wide angles). They do not have the volumes of
Canon and I still think Canon can do better, but no reason for them as sales
drop across cameras.

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First 24mm tests are pretty damning (horrible barrel and strong vignetting),
especially for the price and the long wait.

Also video lens w/o IBIS is a joke, sicne Canon's own cine line is not
stabilized.

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Rodrigo Pasiani

At least it is affordable. Kidding, sorry.

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DuxX

Be careful with negative comments, because otherwise the fast Canon forum
fanboys will jump on you and count how many negative comments you had on the
subject of their favorite brand. Because you have to understand that not
everyone uses photo equipment to take photos. ;) Some types of love just cannot
be logically explained :)

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teletorn

@DuxX may I ask? Is it a common people's feature in syrypska to post such kind
of nonsense comments?

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Skux

Like all mirrorless lenses it is designed to be used in conjunction with digital
corrections. Vignetting and distortion are marginal once corrections are
applied.

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Husband80

Video lens without IS is actually quite common.
Distorsion and vignetting are easily corrected.

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jnd

Skux, sure but after corrections you're losing image quality when the image has
to be stretched and brightened. 2-3 more stops of noise in the corners? No,
thanks. L-series lenses used to be optically excellent and needed less
corrections.

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@Skux
It's horrible without corrections and just okay after them.

Anyway, it's unacceptable form a premium-priced lens that are not class leading
in both size and weight, so it's just Canon jacking up the price and cutting
corners on BOM. I fully expect that GM lens with price-to-IQ ratio like this
will be eaten alive by both Sony and Canon fans. And rightfully so.

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the decent exposure

Even the Leica Q 28 mm lense looks horrible without digital correction. It does
not make sense to judge lenses, without the use of corrections. They are not
designed for that. I can‘t imagine it is different in L-Mount

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@The decent exposure
But if there is no point in judging a lens without corrections, then there is no
point in judging a lens without taking into account the consequences of these
corrections. Don't forget, these "electronically corrected" lenses don't use the
full sensor area. This fact will definitely make a difference compared to an
optically corrected lens. Even if the picture looks similar at first glance. Or
have we forgotten how sensor area works and why we buy full-frame cameras at all
?
You need to compare the noise, maybe even test the RAWs by comparing them with
the reference lens... Because the sensor, the RAW quality pays the price for
this correction - so this price must be shown honestly.

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Skux

Every lens design is a compromise. Canon designed the VCM series to have
consistent dimensions, weight balance and controls across the series. Yes you
could have less distortion or vignetting but it would come at a cost to size,
weight, or deficiencies in other optical areas.

People say they don't want distortion and vignetting, and then you end up with a
behemoth like the Sigma 40mm f/1.4 which gives amazing optical results but is
impractical in most situations.

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Ze De Boni

People complaining about distortion and vignetting (and CA) being software
corrected can't understand the contemporary trends in lens manufacture. The main
goal is to create designs that guarantee the best performance at those
parameters that cannot be corrected in post. LoCA is one of them and most modern
lenses could be called true APO, not only those by Cosina and Leica. To get rid
of both LoCa and corner CA is a burden (if ever possible) and would increase the
number of elements, size, weight an PRICE. Spherical aberration, field curvature
and astigmatism degrade performance, so it's wise to take care of them in
advance and rely on software correction to treat the other features that can be
solved so (again, saving Size, Weight and Price).

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Ze De Boni

The new Canon lenses, as those from Sony, Sigma and many more, have internal
focus, floating elements, and offer performance that seemed impossible so few
years ago. Canon is in the right track, this series looks much like the so
respected Sony G and GM lines. I guess they will be up to the mythical 100 Mp
camera, when and if Canon releases it.

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D135ima

What trends are you talking about? Sigma and Sony are pretty even so far. Canon
literally "invented" the uncorrected 35 1.4 this summer.
And you don't necessarily need behemoths like the Sigma 40 1.4. There are plenty
of compact and optically excellent lenses. The Sony G-Master, for example. And I
wouldn't call the latest generation of Sigma Art aggressively big and heavy.
They're just "normal."
But it could easily become a trend. If Canon gets away with it, then the next
generation of Sony could be "electronically corrected" too.

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D135ima

I don't understand this justification, this talk about compromises and the fact
that uncorrected lenses are cheaper and smaller. Why are you justifying them for
greed? Why did you decide that they will use all the money they save for our
benefit and that it will be reflected in the price? Especially when we have
evidence to the contrary before our eyes. Canon released the 28-70 2.8 with
terrible distortion. It is not lighter, not cheaper than Sigma or Tamron or
Nikon's Tamron. The same with these primes. There are plenty of examples of
lenses around that are not more expensive, not much bigger... or even smaller,
but people say "well, Canon made compromises so that the lens would not weigh a
kilogram and cost $3,000.".
Canon makes compromises because they decided to go the way of squeezing out
profits ! Is it so hard to believe? This is not some kind of conspiracy theory,
this is normal behavior for companies.

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Impulses

I don't mind the use of software corrections when warranted, geometric
correction doesn't inherently mean softer corners (and it's down to not just the
amount but the type of correction)... That being said, a lot of competing f1.4
mirrorless options made more minimal use of corrections, the corner they cut was
usually elsewhere (eg breathing, which can also be corrected in software).

Ultimately all that matters is results, if they're comparable to other options
available for the $ then I see no issue. For RF users there's really no other
option anyway...

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pawelmod

Looks very close to Sony design, especially aperture ring. But why aperture ring
cannot be click- and declick-able? Cannot imagine it is because of the price,
could it be the case that it is patented?

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Mateus1

because of the price... with click- and declick-able it would cost $2000.

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The Mad Kiwi

So Canon can release a version ii in a couple of years with clickable aperture
rings, and jack the price even higher.

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D135ima

@The Mad Kiwi
Actually, they have an example in their history of re-releasing a lens with one
design correction. EF200mm f/2.8L USM - The first version had an integrated
hood, which no one liked. The second version had a removable hood, which was
included in the package. This is literally the only change.

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I don't expect any surprises from the 50mm, but it will be fun to see the
distortion of the 24mm.

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photography-lover

I have a hard time understanding the mention of photo and video.

Isn't it obvious that all mirrorless lenses need to be developed for both
applications?

Is Canon telling us that most of their RF mount lenses are not suitable for
video usage?

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Johnny Castle

No, any lens is suitable for video, just some are better suited than others with
regards to i.e. focus breathing, AF noise etc.

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Yoggy

Focus breathing has impact in focus bracketing and in this regard might be
important for photographers as well.

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Myles Baker

In Gordon Laing's initial reviews the focus breathing looks very well controlled
on both the 24 & 50. He mentioned it's done optically as well & not via
software, although I assume the in camera focus breathing corrections might make
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Stig Nygaard

Also the 3 VCM lenses are very similar in size, weight and design to make it
easier to handle for videographers changing lenses in their setup. That is
normal for Cine line lenses, however "normal primarily for photography lenses"
are normally designed individually without much thought of aligning
size/weight/design with other lenses.

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Interesting. Most Z mount lenses are natively free of focus breathing and have
motors that are video compatible. Good to see that Canon is going in the right
direction little by little.

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Mr Bolton

Most Z mount f1.4 primes are $500-600.

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photography-lover

yes, pretty incredible bargains.

But my comment is not limited to f1.4 primes. Most of the primes and zooms in
the system can be used for video.

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Myles Baker

Nikon made the decision to make their f1.4 primes as a tier below their f1.8
primes & that is reflected in their overall quality & price.
Nice lenses & well priced but not the best that they offer.
This from Gordon Laing's review of the Z 35 f1.4
“But: Contrast and color aberrations are not well controlled, close-up
performance is weak, there's heavy vignetting, and the lens shows strong
field-curvature at closer distances. If you value the benefits of the large f1.4
aperture and can live with these deficiencies I can still recommend the Z 35mm
f1.4 based on its good price-performance ratio."
I expect these lenses from Canon to perform better, more in line with Sony's GM
versions, considering their price & the specific focus on making them true
hybrid lenses.
We'll see as more in-depth reviews come out.

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photography-lover

There may be a small difference in performance yes, very unlikely to be visible
in video applications though.

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Mr Bolton

I haven't watched Laing's review of the 35mm f1.4, but I wonder if he was
speaking of the uncorrected image versus the modern software corrections that
almost all lenses use today?

I really enjoy his reviews, and I also happened to run into him at B&H Photo in
New York during an event they were hosting. Super nice guy in person!

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Myles Baker

Overall he was positive about the lens.
It's just that there are a few drawbacks. That's to be expected given the price.
I'd be far less forgiving if these Canon lenses exhibited similar issues as they
are much more expensive.
I don't expect them to, but we need to wait for full reviews to see.
In his initial view they look good but he points out that there is no way to
click / de-click the aperture ring like Sony can.
I like his reviews, he always seems to give a balanced opinion.

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shah stlz

The choice of leaving out IS is bizarre for lenses that are aimed at video
usage. All the Canon EOS cinema line cameras have no IBIS. Combining them with
the older RF 24mm 1.8 IS or 35mm 1.8 IS works amazingly well, especially on a
gimbal. We just wanted some higher quality glass. Now we got it for tripod use
only.

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Skux

At these price points Canon expects video users to have external stabilisation,
steadicams, dollies, gimbals, cranes etc. No IS or IBIS is going to match a
dedicated rig when it comes to stabilisation.

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shah stlz

yeah, that's what I was talking about: A well stabilized RF lens on a gimbal
(I'm using a Canon C70 with a Ronin RS 3 Pro) works fantastic. Turning the IS on
and off gives me a pretty solid idea of how much the IS can do even on a gimbal.

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Johnny Castle

IS is always handy anyhow. For photography too. There might be some engineering
and financial decisions behind it too. Perhaps you can achieve more consistent
peak image quality, weight saving, price saving, one less potential point for
failure or optical miss-calibration due to bumps, battery saving etc. I would
take either version if the optical characteristics are pleasing, AF is superfast
and build quality is confidence inspiring.

As it stands, and for my amateur needs, out of my typical price range. I will
keep using the also excellent RF 50mm F1.8 STM, and bunch of other affordable EF
and RF lenses, experimenting time to time with different EF budget options like
the interesting and fast focusing EF 24-85 USM standard kit zoom of the past,
70-300 DO IS USM making it 600mm with Kenko Teleplus HD PRO 2x extender, the AF
works great on my R8 :-D

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Stig Nygaard

I don't think Canon's Cine line of lenses normally have IS either?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think professional videographers need/want
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shah stlz

This is a new RF cine/photo hybrid lineup as far as I understand. The needs of
professional videographers are diverse. If you work scenic you might prefer high
end manual lenses. If you work in single operator documentary you want auto
focus and everything that makes life easier, like IS.

Funny thing is that Canon advertised how good their RF IS lenses work with video
when the C70 came out, promoting RF mount for video. And they were right!

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jnd

Fully agree with shah stlz, the R5 with IBIS came out so that people could
record videos without oversized rigs and do everything themselves at still
affordable price. Combining IBIS and OIS is of course preferred. Canon did
include it on the 135mm f/1.8 but omitted here. I would get the 35mm if it had
IS and consider changing my 50mm too. But now I don't have many reasons to
upgrade.

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Husband80

Now, Canon, please give us a 50mm f1.4 under 700USD.

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I am happy to pay $700 for 50/2 that performs well and smaller. Sigma 50/2 DG DN
comes to my mind.

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vogeli

And, Canon, after you gave us a 50mm f1.4 under 700USD, please give us a 50mm
f1.4 under 350USD.

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DuxX

Because of your greed, you kept your users without a lens of essential
importance for a good part of the photography community for 4 years. And now,
after 4 years you remembered to offer them this. Well, thank you, but I
personally don't need it anymore. I switched to another brand and never
regretted it. Now there is nothing you can throw out to bring me back.

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panteleimon

Harboring such a strong resentment for an inanimate brand might be a sign of
something deeper

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DuxX

@panteleimon, You can call it what you want, but resentment certainly exists.
When I attended the first presentation of the RF system, Canon's representative
for Eastern Europe promised that the lens line would be quickly filled with RF
versions. Nothing came of it, and I, like a good part of my colleagues, wasted
time waiting for glasses that didn't come for years, fiddling with the adapter
and old EF L lenses.
A very bad experience that will not happen again.
Fortunately for all of us, there is always a solution. And when it comes to
Canon - any alternative is much better.

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dmartin92

Canon seems to be doing fine, in terms of sales figures. So everything worked
out great. You went off to whatever, and others stayed. Everybody is happy.

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@DuxX, I get that there might be personal reasons for it, but all the rants
under every bit of Canon news just bring in a lot of toxicity. Personally, I
don’t really get it. Canon’s obviously not perfect, but why not just let it go
and move on? Anyway, it’s none of my business, and I’m not here to tell you what
to do

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@panteleimon, As a former user of that system, I have the right to say what I
think aand what is my experience and dissatisfaction with this brand, which may
or may not benefit someone else.
What I don't understand are those who instantly become advocates of this brand
and immediately go to the defense. For God's sake, let other people say what
they think regardless of whether you agree or not. That's what sites like this
are for.

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Andyyy

You always here under every Canon news to rant and complain about something.
Must be tiring....

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DuxX

Oh, and you obviously keep track of everyone :)... what an obsession. Far from
the truth. This is the first time after a long time that I write something
related to Canon. I'm not really interested in anything from Canon, but one of
my favorite focal lengths caught my eye. I hope you will forgive me :)

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Myles Baker

Come on Dux, you've shown up on at least the last 3 major Canon lens
announcements (24-105 f2.8, 35 f1.4 & now this one) whinging about Canon and /
or rubbishing their lenses.
It's hardly the first time & a bit of a pattern.
For someone who professes that they are so happy with their brand of choice you
do seem to be a bit obsessed with putting down other brands.

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DuxX

I have commented on 3 posts or maybe 4 about Canon in last couple of months...?
That is what? Suspicious? Are you serious? I Also commented on posts about
Nikon, Sony, Sigma, Tamron, Laowa, Zeiss or whatever. But only comments on posts
about Canon are suspicious and strange. Maybe because they are mainly negative.
So what? That is my opinion. Get used to the fact that not everyone shares your
opinion.

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Andyyy

Don't need to keep track, it's just hard to miss your trolling comments under
each Canon news

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J0n Sn0w

I didn’t know animated brands existed.

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rawdinal

@DuxX
I totally understand your point but you switched to the wrong brand I guess. I
had this feelings back then when I started digital photography and the company
was SONY. Using MemoryStick, proprietary busses and subpar lenses on high
prices.

So, yes, Canon made mistakes, but they all come and go and if Sony behaves like
it always did before you will regret your decision in 4 years again. These
moments have all companies in common, even Nikon when they didnt wanted to
switch to electronic Autofocus, back then.

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Myles Baker

Your opinion of Canon has been made perfectly clear every time you comment and
you are entitled to express it. I get that you don't like Canon & their products
but you seem to have lost some subjectivity in your disappointment that they
didn't release the lenses you wanted, when you wanted.
BTW these lenses look pretty good. Price wise not to dissimilar to the Sony GM
versions which are currently $1398 & $1298 on B&H ($101 cheaper than these) and
the MFT charts look very good (see Canon Rumours for details), virtually no
focus breathing & nice bokeh (take a look at Gordon Laing's initial reviews).
I'm looking forward to seeing some in-depth reviews even though I'm not the
target market & prefer the smaller, lighter & cheaper f1.8 versions (although
not having to rebalance my gimbal when swapping lenses would be pretty nice).

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Alastair Norcross

Yes, DuxX, you're clearly correct. 45 RF lenses in just over 6 years is a very
slow pace for releasing lenses. It's almost as if Canon wants us to think that
it takes time to design, develop, and manufacture high quality optics. I mean,
what was Canon thinking? We want it all, and we want it now. I'm sure they're
devastated that they lost you as a customer.

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boldcolors

Canon shooters have asked for an updated 50/1.4 for about, what, 15 years? So it
finally arrives. And...it's mainly aimed towards video. "Hybrid" is just for
Canon to give still photographers a reason to buy it. But main target is of
course video.

Same thing with the 35L.

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dmartin92

"And...it's mainly aimed towards video" ... that seems like a statement based on
very little.

It will probably be a very fine lens for still photography.

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Alam12

If it aimed towards photo the PZ module would be built in instead just sayin

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Chez Wimpy

Just 15 years? The requests go back the the earliest days of photography forums
(usenet maybe?) The wonky focus motor breaking down was an established trope
even before Sigma's 50/1.4 EX upped the fast-50 game and (the brand conscious)
became somewhat resigned when they "answered" with the 50/1.2L.

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boldcolors

@dmartin92: fine lens for still photography? Yeah, but that was not my point. If
they really wanted to give us something to compensate for the long wait it would
have been a fully dedicated 50/1.4 with IS instead of "hybrid" capabilities.
Also, I really dislike aperture rings on modern AF lenses but that is personal
so...

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Andyyy

"it's mainly aimed towards video" - What does this mean? Because i don't see a
single reason why this lens is not just as good for stills

People need to understand that in this day and age you cannot release a lens
that is not good for video, has jerky AF motors or huge focus breathing. But
that doesn't mean it's not a still lens.

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@Andyyy: so why are just some lenses released has "hybrid" then? I'm fine with
Canon relasing hybrid lenses but the 50/1.4 is a holy grail for Canon shooters
and most of us would have preferred tech such as IS instead.

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Bohemian_storyteller

Canon listened to customers and brought F 1.4 lenses..finally but here it is :)

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Horshack

"According to Canon, the new lenses are aimed at users who need to switch
between photo and video frequently or quickly"

The new lenses are priced for users who like to switch between having money in
the bank and no money in the bank quickly.

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Bohemian_storyteller

If someone doesnt have 1500 usd in the bank..then go to second hand..or dont go
for FF cameras at all.

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Mr Bolton

Nikon f1.4 primes at $5-600 have entered the chat.

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Malling

Nikon 1.4 isn’t pro glass unlike Canon and Sony, Sony isn’t drastically
different in price; on the 24a it’s only €150 cheaper, €200 cheaper on the 35
and is actually a €100 more expensive on the 50.

So at least Canon hit the market price better here unlike their new 70-200/2.8

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Nikoolix

Bohemian_storyteller That's also one of those gatekeeper elitist mindsets I only
see among Canon zealots. 'If you can't afford the Canon premium, you don't
deserve to be one of us" basically. Meanwhile the users of all other brands
stand by each other to ask for alternatives in all price ranges. You guys really
are full of it.

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Mr Bolton

@Malling you may certainly buy more expensive 'Pro' glass from Nikon. Or adapt
'Pro' F mount or EF or Sony FE.

Who determines what 'Pro' really means? There are pros shooting Leica M film
cameras who get paid rather well for doing so. Working pros use all manner of
optics as the job requires-and the reality is that Nikon's cheap seats f1.4
lenses handily outperform anything they ever made for F mount at even the high
end. Sharper, better corners, much faster autofocus, generally fantastic colors
too.

Not trying to down the rather expensive Canon f1.4 lenses, but I'd argue that
the difference in quality might not equal the difference in cost, for a whole
bunch of users at various points on the photographer casual<-->pro spectrum.

If you really need the quality, you throw down for the Nikon 50mm f1.2 coffee
can.

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Bohemian_storyteller

Nikoolix: Yes, we have secret gatherings in old temples with beautiful canon L
lenses columns and we bow 37x a day in front Canon sign. Lol

Only thing I pointed out is the original hyperbolic statement, which is a little
unresonable for me. I have never laughted about someone financial situation or
so..

People should use whatever they want and as a camera user I wish only, they use
more ils cameras and not smartphones.

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Nikoolix

It's not hyperbolic or unreasonable when it's objectively correct. An RF user
has no choice between a frankly rather garbage 50 1.8, and these extremely
expensive 1.4 VCM and 1.2. No other brand has such a gap in the lineup, with
Nikon's 50 1.8 having super high optical quality despite the low price. Your
opinion on the matter doesn't change the objective truth.

It's even more ironic when the RF 35 1.4 VCM is optically worse than the EF 35
1.4 MK2.

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Malling

Fundamentally manufacturers determined what is and what isn’t

In Nikon it’s their S line
In Canon it’s their L line
In Sony it’s their GM line

They typically go the extra mile in terms of build quality and optical
performance, but that is not to say you cannot use other stuff for professional
applications, It’s just not what the lines were targeted at, the other lines are
typically target at consumers or enthusiasts if you like. But it’s not the same
as those lenses cannot be used beyond designed and marketed purposes. Nikon
clearly sacrificed some optical and build on their 1.4 offerings, optical their
1.8 are clearly better whether that matters to you I will not be the judge.

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Nikoolix:
"The new lenses are priced for users who like to switch between having money in
the bank and no money in the bank quickly."

What is objectively correct there???😂

Dont pretend to be a master of discussion using terms like objective truth,
objectively correct..You are not.

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Mr Bolton

I dunno, @Bohemian_storyteller if I bought these Canon lenses, I'd go from
having money in the bank to no money in the bank about as quickly as my debit
card processed at the camera store.

That's objectively pretty correct-for me, anyway.

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Skux

I've been spoiled by Canon's zooms, the 28-70 f/2 and original 70-200 f/2.8 are
all I need for paid work. I may never need an L prime, especially at these
prices.

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Mr Bolton

I wish there were a 24-105mm f2.8 in Nikon Z. I know it'd be huge, but I would
still covet and eventually buy it. That is one lens in RF which does look very
appealing.

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I would love to see the comparison of this RF 50mm f1.4 vs Nikkor Z 50mm f1.8 S.

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They are optically both excellent (a guess for the Canon at this point)
Nikon is 2/3 stop darker
Canon is almost 3x more expensive.

or a comparison with the Nikon 50mm f/1.4:

Canon is optically slightly better (a likely guess)
They have the same max aperture
Canon is 3x more expensive

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EDWARD ARTISTE

There is already mtf charts for canon 50, and they look great. But...we still
gotta see the bokeh quality and especially the fringing...r5 will show every bit
of those green and purple edges.

Gordons videos usually covers fringing and edge sharpness in a basic sense.
Almost no one shows it model face/backlit scenarios, which would be amazing for
us portrait folks.

Fringing even on sunglasses is problematic.

** - and thats to even consider purchasing it in 2 years on sale. 1400? no IS?
NAH...sale only (or client pay!)

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FelipeCastro

@AlpineMorning, just consider the price difference and compare them
proportionally. I believe the Nikon Z 50mm f1.8S will be the winner.

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@EDWARD ARTIST, Exactly.

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Leica celebrates 70 years of the M series with $23k platinum-plated camera kit

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New Lomo'Instant Wide Glass claims to have the world's sharpest instant camera
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