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THE CX DECODED PODCAST BY CMSWIRE

Customer Experience Decoded is CMSWire's semi-monthly podcast designed to
deliver insights from leaders driving the evolution of customer experience, with
an emphasis on digital touch points, customer journeys, respectful data
management and voice of the customer.

Each episode is designed to help you better understand how industry leaders are
managing customer experience and the value these practices can bring to your
customers' and employee's daily lives.

Have a question, comment, idea or guest suggestion? Drop us a line at
editors@simplermedia.com.






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ABOUT THE HOSTS

Based in Sunny Florida, Rich Hein is Head of Content and Audience Strategy for
CMSWire. He has worked in digital technology publishing for nearly two decades,
connecting readers with content that matters to them. Rich creates and
implements editorial strategy and works cross-functionally with marketing to
serve and build CMSWire's audience of over 250,000 unique monthly visitors.

Dom Nicastro has covered the digital customer experience and digital employee
experience spaces since he began with Simpler Media Group full-time in January
of 2014. He regularly serves as emcee at his company's two industry events and
as moderator for SMG webinars. On the side, Dom is a sports-talk radio host for
an FM station out of the Boston area. Prior to Simpler Media Group, Dom was a
journalist at a healthcare publishing company and served as editor of his
hometown's daily newspaper, the Gloucester Daily Times in the North Shore region
of Massachusetts.

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Scott Brinker has had his eyes on the marketing technology landscape for
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One of his emerging trends is low- and no-code tools. Gartner estimated that
enterprise low-code application platforms will be 65% of all app creations
within the next five years, and the worldwide low-code development technologies
market was projected to total $13.8 billion in 2021, an increase of 22.6% from
2020.

Brinker, VP Platform Ecosystem at HubSpot, joined CX Decoded Podcast co-hosts
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WHY CUSTOMER JOURNEY MAPPING IS A VERB, NOT A NOUN



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Brands need to consider being authentic and sincere and engaging in storytelling
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Mansur Khamitov, assistant professor of marketing at the Kelley School of
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Holly O’Neill leads client care for Bank of America’s 66 million consumer and
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Most organizations strive to have an excellent customer service program. Or we
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According to data from CMSWire's State of Digital Customer Experience 2021
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CX on business metrics and outcomes. It's incredibly challenging to provide
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CMSWire's CX Decoded podcast co-hosts Rich Hein and Dom Nicastro caught up with
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IS THERE OPTIMISM ON THE HORIZON FOR MARKETERS?



Marketing like many other disciplines went through a year of duress in 2020.
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strategies, budgets, brand messaging, striking the right tone. Everything was
up-ended, not to mention the move to remote work and job losses for marketing
teams. And on top of that, simply worrying about the health and well-being of
family, friends and co-workers.

There's hope, though. Global vaccinations are in effect. And marketers are
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ANALYZING VOICE-CONTENT PROSPECTS FOR MARKETERS



There's no denying the adoption of smart voice assistant technologies into
people's homes. According to a 2021 Statista report, shipments of smart speaker
units were at an all-time high in the fourth quarter of 2020. But how do
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voice content experiences that support their brand? How do they embed voice
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CX Decoded invited voice-content expert, and CMSWire contributing author,
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HOW TO TAME THE MARTECH CHAOS



Marketers are at the forefront when it comes to taming the martech chaos and
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What's the right toolset? Should we have a marketing cloud at the center of our
martech stack? Should we build with a best-of-breed approach? Is a homegrown
stack the right approach?

Anita Brearton, founder, CEO and Co-CMO of CabinetM, a marketing technology
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Joining the podcast this episode, CEO of the Marketing AI Institute and PR
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with their customers. In fact, according to data from Edelman in 2019 prior to
the pandemic, 81% of customers buy based on trust.

Having consumers trust your brand has always been an important factor in
customer experience success, but the past 15 months has definitely amplified
things. In fact, Experian’s global research from July 2020 showed that 52% of
customers who felt that businesses treated them fairly during the pandemic plan
to give those companies more of their business.

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early 2020, right before COVID-19 related shutdowns started to take shape across
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means that your customers are out there with their mobile devices. They’re doing
things like researching products, reading reviews, shopping, spending time on
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this trend, forcing many organizations to pivot on a dime and go all in on
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Naturally, building a mobile-first mindset did not start with the pandemic.
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Never before has there been this quick of a digital transformation effort to
modernize business processes, supply chains and workflows like we saw over the
past year. And digital business is still evolving.

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shifts in customer behavior that had all organizations playing catch-up.
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in the Life in the Pandemic, eight in 10 American consumers plan to shop online
in some fashion, even when the COVID-19 global pandemic comes to an end.
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don't want to touch cash anymore.

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impact on business processes and brand strategy. The good news is we caught up
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lived this kind of digital transformation — Adam Brotman, former chief digital
officer at Starbucks. Brotman is now the CEO of startup Brightloom, a customer
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laws, and more are likely on the way. And that’s not to mention the possibility
of a US federal privacy law.

Are you tech ready? Is your marketing staff trained to handle personal-data
requests from your customers and prospects who trust your brand to be compliant?
How do your customers stand to benefit from your practices around these new
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In the latest CX Decoded Podcast, we’ll help marketers cut through the
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The impending demise of the third-party cookie will take one big bite out of a
marketer’s tried and true go-to strategy. Marketers have used third-party
cookies for decades to inform digital advertising and user experience by
tracking information about visitors and their behavior when not on their actual

But it’s a new world when it comes to data privacy. And the tech giants are
taking action. Apple and Google are making moves to support the termination of
this type of data tracking on the web.

How can marketers adjust? Is the demise of third-party cookies actually a good
thing for marketing strategy?

How can CX professionals adapt in light of these challenges?

Co-hosts Rich Hein and Dom Nicastro of CMSWire and special guests Ratul Shah,
head of product marketing at SAP, and Tim Hayden, the CEO of BrainTrust, discuss
on this CX Decoded Podcast marketing in a cookie-less world.


ELEVATING YOUR VOICE OF THE CUSTOMER PROGRAM



Every company in the history of the business world likely would benefit from
listening to their customers. The challenge today? Customers talk. A lot. And in
many different ways and in many different media platforms.

It’s on their brands to listen — and act. If it were only that easy.

Voice of the Customer (VoC) technology has become a billion-dollar business for
vendors. And it seems like a billion-dollar challenge for customer experience
practitioners: how do I manage my VoC data, programs and, most importantly, make
it actionable for better customer experiences? How do I create strong feedback
loops? What impact did COVID-19 have on VoC in 2020 and what will be the
priority for CX professionals in this arena in 2021?

Join co-hosts Rich Hein and Dom Nicastro of CMSWire and special guest Stephanie
Thum, CCXP, founding principal of Practical CX, on this CX Decoded podcast to
learn the latest strategies to boost VoC programs and thrive in a rapidly
changing world economy.


BREAKING DOWN THE STATE OF DIGITAL CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE



Welcome to CMSWire's first podcast.

Everyone knows 2020 kicked digital customer experience into high gear.
Businesses, even those whose primary model was brick-and-mortar, had to adapt
digitally and fast because of COVID-19 precautionary lockdowns that shuttered
stores and sent customers to digital shopping and communication experiences with
their brands.

It was up to customer experience professionals to execute on these digital
experiences. And it was anything but seamless.

Only 11% of CX professionals told CMSWire in its State of the Digital Customer
Experience 2021 report that their tools are working well. Another 47% say
they’re satisfactory, and 43% say they need work.

Furthermore, CX practitioners reported struggles with limited budget/resources
(46%), siloed systems and/or fragmented customer data (37%), limited
cross-department alignment/collaboration (34%), outdated/limited technology,
operations or processes (29%) and lack of in-house expertise/skills (27%).

How can CX professionals adapt in light of these challenges?

Join Rich Hein and Sarah Kimmel of CMSWire and special guest Annette Franz,
CCXP, founder and CEO of CX Journey Inc., on this CX Decoded podcast for more
insights on the yearly CMSWire report and how to better deliver digital customer
experiences in 2021.

Check out the State of Digital Customer Experience - 2021


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