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MUSK, ZUCKERBERG, GATES: THE TITANS OF TECH WILL TALK AI AT PRIVATE CAPITOL
SUMMIT

This week will feature a series of public hearings on artificial intelligence.
But all eyes will be on the closed-door gathering convened by Senate Majority
Leader Chuck Schumer.

Some of the biggest names in technology, including Facebook co-founder
Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk, who bought Twitter and rebranded it X, will meet
in private with Congress this week. NBC News; Getty Images
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Sept. 11, 2023, 10:00 AM BST
By Scott Wong, Julie Tsirkin and Liz Brown-Kaiser

WASHINGTON — Congress turns its attention to artificial intelligence this week
as some of the most high-profile names in Big Tech descend on Capitol Hill for a
first-of-its-kind gathering to brainstorm ways lawmakers can regulate the
fast-moving technology that experts have warned could lead to human extinction.

In a closed-door meeting Wednesday, all 100 senators will hear from Elon Musk,
who bought Twitter and rebranded it X; Facebook co-founder Mark Zuckerberg;
Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates; Sam Altman, the CEO of ChatGPT company OpenAI;
and a host of other prominent tech leaders for what Senate Majority Leader Chuck
Schumer, D-N.Y., has dubbed his inaugural AI Insight Forum.




The Senate brainstorming sessions will run through the fall. 


SCHUMER REVEALS PLAN TO REGULATE AI

June 22, 202302:14


“Let’s see if there’s enough oxygen in the room for all of us,” quipped Sen. Tim
Kaine, D-Va., who plans to attend.

Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla., said with a smile that he's anticipating “a lot of
drama” Wednesday, perhaps a nod to the much-hyped cage match that never
materialized this year between tech titans Musk and Zuckerberg.

“We’ll see what actually comes out as far as content,” Lankford said, adding
that “all those tech CEOs are surrounded by lawyers telling them what to say and
what not to say.”



With a who’s who of the tech world all in one building, the forum is sure to
attract an army of staffers, lobbyists and reporters. Security is heightened
anytime Musk, also the top executive at SpaceX and Tesla and the world’s richest
person, enters the Capitol; security will be even tighter with a band of tech
billionaires roaming the halls.

That same day, a House Oversight subcommittee, led by Rep. Nancy Mace, R-S.C.,
will hold a hearing with Biden administration technology officials titled: “How
are Federal Agencies Harnessing Artificial Intelligence?”

And Tuesday, the Senate will hold a pair of AI hearings. The leaders of a key
Commerce and Science subcommittee — Sens. John Hickenlooper, D-Colo., and Marsha
Blackburn, R-Tenn. — will hear testimony from experts on how AI companies can
boost transparency and the public’s trust.

Meanwhile, the leaders of the Judiciary’s subcommittee on technology and privacy
— Sens. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., and Josh Hawley, R-Mo. — plan to hold their
third hearing on AI oversight and regulations, featuring leaders from Microsoft
and powerhouse chipmaker Nvidia.

The Senate duo recently unveiled a bipartisan framework for its forthcoming
legislation, simply named the U.S. AI Act, that includes requiring AI companies
to register with an independent oversight body to ensure they can be held
legally liable for things like privacy breaches and explicit deep fakes, and to
mandate transparency requirements for training data and accuracy of AI models.

Blumenthal said his bipartisan framework is “closely aligned” with Schumer’s
framework on AI, and he said committees are “working in tandem” with the
Democratic leader’s high-profile tech forums.



“For the leader to make it a priority and devote this much time to it sends a
powerful signal about the need for legislation,” Blumenthal said in an
interview. “We all know the way Congress works is legislation comes from
committees. Very rarely does a bill go directly to the floor and certainly not a
major bill of this importance.”


SCHUMER IN THE AI SPOTLIGHT

Whether legislation can be written and brought to the floor by the end of the
year remains unknown. (Ask ChatGPT and the AI platform will tell you whether or
not a bill will be passed by Congress in the future is uncertain.) But it’s
unusual for the leader of the Senate to take ownership of a specific policy
issue, as Schumer has done with artificial intelligence — particularly since
it’s a topic he has not focused much on in the past.

In a major speech on AI this summer, Schumer called this “a moment of
revolution.” And the New York Democrat has formed his own bipartisan working
group on AI that includes Sens. Martin Heinrich, D-N.M., Todd Young, R-Ind., and
Mike Rounds, R-S.D. The group is embarking on a balancing act: They’re talking
about how AI can improve life for Americans but also emphasizing that it poses
serious threats, potentially displacing millions of jobs, interfering in
elections and spreading disinformation, and posing national security threats.


LAWMAKERS LOOK FOR WAYS TO REGULATE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE

May 16, 202304:37


“If we don’t do anything, AI is going to move forward without us and the dangers
could be maximized and the opportunities could be minimized. And so this is
going to be one of the most important sessions if you will, that Congress has
had,” Schumer told reporters. The forums, a novel approach, are needed because
AI is “so unique. It is broad and deep. It’s going to affect every aspect of
society. It is constantly changing and it is very complicated.”


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Part of the challenge in drafting legislation on AI is that it touches on
virtually every committee in Congress, from Commerce and Judiciary to Armed
Services, Agriculture and Energy. For example, Sen. Ben Ray Lujan., D-N.M., a
Commerce and Science committee member, said he has taken an interest in film and
music copyright infringement but also new AI standards from the National
Institute of Standards and Technology, known as NIST.

“It’s endless,” Lujan said.



The goal of the series of insight forums is to “get as much information as
possible” to help committee leaders of both parties see how AI will affect areas
over which they have jurisdiction.

“This won’t work if we don’t keep the committee structure working, and it won’t
work if we don’t keep it bipartisan,” Rounds said in an interview. Asked when
lawmakers could craft a legislative solution to address the already-booming
industry, Rounds couldn’t give a definitive answer: “We’re in the learning
phase, and we’re going to be there for a while.”


THE INVENTORS AND INNOVATORS

Sen. Cynthia Lummis, R-Wyo., another Commerce panel member, said she wants to
ensure that any new regulation doesn’t stifle innovation from some of the small
inventors and innovators. 

“We want to make sure that, first of all, not when we make AI policy but if we
make AI policy, that we’re listening to not only the high-profile, very wealthy
people on the front lines but also the innovators that are doing things behind
the scenes that we don’t even know about,” Lummis said.



“Those kinds of innovations aren’t necessarily going to come from the Elon Musks
and Mark Zuckerbergs — they’re more apt to be the ones who purchase that
technology from the people who create the technology," Lummis continued. “So
what we want to do is make sure that we’re not helping create monopolistic
situations in emerging industries and AI is an emerging industry.”


MICROSOFT PRESIDENT: AI IS 'IS IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE OF EVERY ASPECT OF
DIGITAL' TECH

May 25, 202316:43


On the other side of the chamber, House Republicans, led by Speaker Kevin
McCarthy, R-Calif., have also expressed reservations about over-regulating
artificial intelligence at a time when most lawmakers do not fully grasp it.
McCarthy organized a bipartisan briefing for members this spring with experts
from MIT.



“I mean, I saw Schumer went out and said he wanted to [regulate AI],” McCarthy
said during an interview earlier this year. “Schumer uses a flip phone. I’m not
sure a guy with a flip phone that doesn’t even know how to use a smartphone
should be talking about what he’s doing in AI.”

In addition to Musk, Zuckerberg and Gates, the CEOs of Google, IBM, Microsoft,
Nvidia and Palantir will be on hand at Wednesday’s forum, along with the heads
of labor, human rights and entertainment groups. They include Elizabeth Shuler,
president of the AFL-CIO; Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation
of Teachers; and Charles Rivkin, chairman and CEO of the Motion Picture
Association.


Scott Wong

Scott Wong is a senior congressional reporter for NBC News.


Julie Tsirkin

Julie Tsirkin is a correspondent covering Capitol Hill.


Liz Brown-Kaiser

Liz Brown-Kaiser covers Capitol Hill for NBC News.

Rebecca Kaplan contributed.


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