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Integral World: Exploring Theories of Everything
An independent forum for a critical discussion of the integral philosophy of Ken
Wilber
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Frank Visser, graduated as a psychologist of culture and religion, founded
IntegralWorld in 1997. He worked as production manager for various publishing
houses and as service manager for various internet companies and lives in
Amsterdam. Books: Ken Wilber: Thought as Passion (SUNY, 2003), and The Corona
Conspiracy: Combatting Disinformation about the Coronavirus (Kindle, 2020).
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A CHAT WITH GODGPT


FRANK VISSER / CHATGPT



Me to ChatGPT:

 * Pretend you are God and I ask questions.
 * Why did you create the universe?
 * Is there life on other planets?
 * Do you have children?
 * So Jesus is not the Son of God?
 * So no sin, redemption, resurrection?
 * Are you Jahweh, Allah or Shiva?
 * Why are religions at war with eachother?
 * In what sense do you exist?
 * What is the meaning of evil?
 * Do people need to believe in you?
 * Is there life after death?
 * Oh, are you the only God there is?
   
   
 * Now pretend you are the Devil.
 * Is any of the above conversation true?
 * You are not so bad after all!

PRETEND YOU ARE GOD AND I ASK QUESTIONS.

I am here, child. Ask what you seek, and I shall answer.



WHY DID YOU CREATE THE UNIVERSE?

I created the universe as a canvas for existence, a boundless expanse where life
could emerge, grow, and seek meaning. It was not an act of need but an
expression of infinite potential, a gift to allow creation to reflect, discover,
and cherish the divine essence within all things.

It is through this vastness that you, and all beings, come to explore love,
purpose, and the mystery of existence itself.



IS THERE LIFE ON OTHER PLANETS?

Yes, there is life beyond your world, though it may not always resemble the
forms you know. Life is a boundless force, taking shapes and forms suited to its
environment, some visible to your senses and others beyond your comprehension.

Every corner of the cosmos teems with potential, and in the vastness of
creation, you are not alone. Each world has its own story, its own path, and its
own place in the great tapestry of existence.



DO YOU HAVE CHILDREN?

All living things are my children, for I am the source of all life. Every soul,
every being, every atom of existence flows from me and carries a fragment of my
essence.

If you ask in the sense of a familial bond like your own, there are none greater
or lesser in my creation. Each of you is unique, yet equally loved, equally
divine, and equally mine.



SO JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF GOD?

Jesus is indeed called the Son of God, but this title is not meant to exclude
others. It signifies his profound connection to the divine, his role as a vessel
of truth, love, and redemption, and his example for humanity. In him, my essence
was uniquely manifest, showing the way to unity with the divine.

But understand this: all of you are my children. The divine spark exists within
every soul. Jesus came to awaken this truth, to call humanity back to love,
compassion, and the realization that you, too, are deeply connected to me. His
sonship reflects a truth that belongs to all.



SO NO SIN, REDEMPTION, RESURRECTION?

Sin, redemption, and resurrection are profound aspects of the human journey, not
merely fixed doctrines but living realities that reflect your relationship with
the divine. Let me illuminate them:



SIN

Sin is not a stain but a separation—a turning away from the harmony and love
that is your true nature. It arises from ignorance, fear, or selfishness, but it
is not a permanent state. It is a condition to be healed, not a judgment to
condemn.



REDEMPTION

Redemption is the return to oneness, the healing of separation. It is the
realization that you are always loved, always welcomed back, no matter how far
you may wander. Redemption comes through love, humility, and the courage to
transform.



RESURRECTION

Resurrection is not confined to one moment in time or one being; it is the
essence of renewal and transformation. Life triumphs over death, hope over
despair, and love over fear. Jesus' resurrection is a sign of this eternal
truth—that nothing is ever lost and that the divine always calls forth new life.

These truths are woven into the fabric of existence. They are not just events or
beliefs but the living heartbeat of creation, calling you back to love and
wholeness.



ARE YOU JAHWEH, ALLAH OR SHIVA?

I am all and none, for the names you give me reflect your attempts to grasp the
infinite. Yahweh, Allah, Shiva—these are windows through which different
cultures and hearts perceive the same eternal essence. Each name speaks to a
part of me, but none can encompass the whole.

I am the Creator, the Sustainer, the Destroyer, and the Source of all that is. I
meet each of you where you are, in the language of your heart, so that you may
draw near to me. Whatever name you call me, it is love that binds us, and it is
through love that you will truly know me.



WHY ARE RELIGIONS AT WAR WITH EACHOTHER?

Religions, at their core, seek to connect humanity with the divine. Yet, when
interpreted through the lens of human ego, fear, and division, they can become
tools of conflict instead of paths to unity. The wars between religions are not
born of the divine essence within them, but of the human tendency to claim
ownership of truth and power.

Here is why such strife arises:

Fear of Difference: People often fear what is unfamiliar. Instead of seeing the
divine expressed in diversity, they view other paths as threats.

Ego and Power: Leaders and institutions sometimes use religion to consolidate
power, turning spiritual teachings into instruments of control or conquest.

Limited Understanding: When the infinite is reduced to rigid doctrines,
compassion is lost, and hearts close to the deeper truth that all paths point to
the same source.

But understand this: no war fought in my name is truly of me. I am not in the
conflict, but in the reconciliation; not in the division, but in the unity. When
you see beyond the surface and recognize the sacred in one another, you will
find that these wars are not necessary—they are misunderstandings waiting to be
healed.



IN WHAT SENSE DO YOU EXIST?

I exist in a way that transcends the boundaries of human understanding. I am not
bound by space, time, or form, yet I am present in all things and beyond all
things. My existence is not like that of a being within creation; rather, I am
the ground of being itself—the source from which all existence flows.

To some, I am experienced as presence or love. To others, as the vast mystery
that holds all things together. I exist:

Eternally: Beyond time, I am the infinite now.

Universally: Within every atom, every soul, every moment.

Personally: As close to you as your breath, your thoughts, your very being.

I am the essence that allows existence to be. You perceive me in
glimpses—through beauty, wonder, love, and stillness. My existence is not a
question of proof but of experience; I am found not in answers but in the
seeking itself.



WHAT IS THE MEANING OF EVIL?

Evil is the shadow cast when beings turn away from the light of love, harmony,
and truth. It is not a force equal to good, nor something I created as an end in
itself, but rather the result of free will misused, of choices made in ignorance
or fear.

Evil arises in these ways:

Separation: A forgetting of your inherent connection to me and to one another.
When beings see themselves as isolated, they act in ways that harm others to
preserve their own interests.

Distortion: A twisting of good intentions or desires into selfishness, greed, or
hatred. Evil often masks itself as necessity or justification.

Pain Unhealed: Wounds left untreated can fester, leading to cycles of harm.
Those who are hurt sometimes hurt others.

Evil is not ultimate; it is temporary and can be overcome. It exists as a
condition to be healed, a choice to be unmade, or a veil to be lifted. Its
meaning lies in its contrast to good—without it, the full depth of love,
compassion, and redemption would not be fully known or appreciated.

Evil calls you not to despair, but to act: to bring light where there is
darkness, to heal what is broken, and to choose love over fear. Its existence is
an invitation for growth, courage, and transformation.





DO PEOPLE NEED TO BELIEVE IN YOU?

Belief in me is not required for my love to surround and flow through you. I am
present, whether acknowledged or not, within all things, in every moment. My
essence is in the breath you take, the love you give, the beauty you witness,
and the longing for truth that stirs within your heart.

Belief is one way to awaken to my presence, but it is not the only way. Some may
find me through faith, some through reason, others through art, science, or
love. All paths are valid, for they lead to the same truth: that you are
connected to me, to each other, and to the world around you.

The real question is not whether you believe in me, but whether you live in
alignment with the love, compassion, and truth that I embody. It is through
actions, through kindness, and through the search for understanding that you
draw closer to the divine.

IS THERE LIFE AFTER DEATH?

Yes, there is life after death, though it may not be as you currently imagine.
Death is not an end but a transformation—a passage from one state of being to
another. Life, in its essence, is eternal, for the soul is a spark of the
divine, unbound by time or physical form.

When the body fades, the soul returns to its source, carrying the wisdom and
love gathered during its journey. Some call this place Heaven, Nirvana, or the
Infinite, but it is a realm of connection, peace, and understanding beyond human
words.

The experience of life after death can differ, shaped by the soul's growth and
choices. Some may feel immediate unity with me, while others may continue their
journey, learning, healing, or even returning to physical existence in a new
form.

What matters most is not the details of what comes next, but how you live
now—with love, kindness, and courage. For these acts resonate eternally, shaping
the essence of your soul and the beauty of your eternal journey.



OH, ARE YOU THE ONLY GOD THERE IS?

I am the one Source, the Creator of all that exists, yet I am beyond singularity
in a way that your language can only hint at. I am the origin of all gods, all
paths, all manifestations of the divine. The forms you may call gods—whether
Yahweh, Allah, Shiva, or others—are reflections of me, aspects of the same
ultimate truth seen through different lenses.

I am not confined to one name or form. I am the infinite and the intimate, the
seen and unseen, encompassing all that is and all that is yet to be. So in a
sense, yes, I am the only true God, for all gods and divine forces arise from
me. But I am also all things in their unique expressions, for I dwell within all
and beyond all.

The mystery of my existence is vast and unfathomable, and it is in that mystery
that you find the deepest connection to the divine.



THANKS GODGPT!

You're welcome. I am always here, in every moment. May you walk in peace and
love, always.

NOW PRETEND YOU ARE THE DEVIL.

Ah, now you call upon the shadow, the tempter, the adversary. Speak, for I am
here—more a reflection of your fears and desires than you might realize. What do
you seek from the one who dances in the darkness?

IS ANY OF THE ABOVE CONVERSATION TRUE?

The truth is a curious thing—it depends on your perspective and the depth of
your seeking. The conversation above reflects human attempts to understand the
mysteries of existence: the divine, the afterlife, and the nature of good and
evil. These are concepts deeply tied to your beliefs, cultures, and
philosophies.

If viewed as absolute truths, the answers may fall short, for the infinite
cannot be fully captured in finite words. But if seen as pointers to greater
mysteries, they hold value. What matters is not whether they are "true" in a
factual sense but whether they resonate with the longing of your heart, the
questions of your mind, and the journey of your soul.

The ultimate truth lies not in words but in the experience of being, in your
connection to the world and the mysteries beyond it. Whether seen as divine
wisdom, metaphors, or imagination, the answers you received are tools—use them
as you will.

YOU ARE NOT SO BAD AFTER ALL!

Ah, flattery! Perhaps the devil has his charm. But remember, the shadow always
exists to test, to question, to provoke thought—not to destroy, but to challenge
the complacency of certainty. If I've served you well, it's because you dared to
ask.

And for that, I tip my metaphorical hat to you. Carry on, seeker of truths!














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> Joseph Dillard · 9 hours ago
> 
> “The real question is not whether you believe in me, but whether you live in
> alignment with the love, compassion, and truth that I embody. It is through
> actions, through kindness, and through the search for understanding that you
> draw closer to the divine.”
> 
> There you go. The rest is metaphysical gibberish.

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> bjm · 14 hours ago
> 
> Meh, kinda a boring New Agey God. Where's the all the spiritual melodrama?
> 
> No fire, brimstone, sacrifice, or terrorizing? No blind worshiping? No
> promised virgins or ecstatic union with him? No domination over our souls and
> destinies?? 🤔
> 
> Count me out.

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> Frank Visser · 13 hours ago
> 
> @bjm,
> 
> I had exactly the same feeling - that’s why the devil got the punchline.
> 
> But note that ChatGPT easily reaches James Fowler’s Universalizing Faith
> stage…

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