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HUH? GIGGLE SWITCH?
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#1 · Jul 1, 2021
Saw this article and it caught my attention.
Apparently its a simple device fitted on a Glock that coverts it to full auto.
Never heard of it until now.
ILLEGAL DEVICE MAKES SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOLS FULLY AUTOMATIC
D.C. police are becoming increasingly alarmed over an illegal device called a
giggle switch that can turn a semiautomatic pistol into a fully automatic
machine gun.
www.nbcwashington.com
> D.C. police are becoming increasingly alarmed over an illegal device called a
> giggle switch that can turn a semiautomatic pistol into a fully automatic
> machine gun.
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> In recent weeks, officers have found as many as five of them on the backs of
> pistols in two neighborhoods in Northeast.
> Click to expand...
They are allegedly being manufactured in China and being shipped via internet
orders to the USA. They are fitted where the rear slide cover fits.
Funny how these things show up in a place with super strict gun control like
Washington DC. Yup... they need more gun laws there!
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#2 · Jul 1, 2021
Customs and USPS have been hitting those hard when they hit land, been doing it
for more than a few years. Coat hangars that are 3d printed DIAS...you can't
stop the signal but they sure try.
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If enough folks WANT full auto they will get it. Laws do not prevent ANYTHING.
Personally a full auto pistol is about the dumbest thing I have ever seen.
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That is why it appeals to the gang bangers. Their tactic is spray and pray, and
run like hell.
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#5 · Jul 1, 2021
These have been around for a long time - just making news now since they show up
in the gang shootings and guns picked up by police. Still aganst the law if not
properly papered. so we need more laws to make them more illegal.
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#9 · Jul 2, 2021
They can't be "properly papered". No new machine guns under the Hughes Amendment
to the '86 FOPA.
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Criminals do not obey laws, Congress proves it on a regular basis.
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#7 · Jul 2, 2021
Personally I'd rather see the gangbangers waste all their ammo in a couple
seconds with a weapon that sprays them up more than around. Full-auto pistols
like that are very difficult to control unless you're experienced. The
demonstration by the ATF agent was misleading because he's trained on
full-autos. Your average punk in a lowered Chevy doesn't have a clue how to
control it.
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#8 · Jul 2, 2021
The name giggle switch is the biggest reason it is getting attention now along
with the gun grab politics. Sort of like polar vortex a few years ago. Give
anything a flashy name and the media will jump all over it.
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#10 · Jul 2, 2021
I [emoji7] it. And it's either "GRock" or "Crock" how you interpret the name.
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#12 · Jul 2, 2021 (Edited)
FSSG , a South American company, was making them several decades ago. I'm pretty
sure the G18 wasn't developed with bangers in mind.
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#13 · Jul 3, 2021
I don't own any Glocks, nor would I want such a switch on a handgun, but I'd be
curious to see how the mechanism works.
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Considering that most modern semi-auto handguns are essentially copies of the
Glock nowadays this switch could probably be made in versions to fit virtually
anything. If that doesn't give ATF a panic attack I don't know what else would.
They had previously ruled that any firearm that can be easily converted to
full-auto was a machine gun, so what are they going to do now? Ban ALL
striker-fired semi-auto handguns?
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#15 · Jul 3, 2021
Actually, it's fssg. Been around since'87. Little lever trips the trigger bar,
when the slide returns to battery. Only takes a few mags for an experienced
shooter to learn to fire short, controllable bursts.
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#16 · Jul 4, 2021
Gun laws don’t eliminate devices such as these, they only criminalize their
possession.
“It’s a big problem; it’s a huge problem,” D.C. police Cmdr. Ramey Kyle said.
“You know, guns are inherently dangerous, and with these switches, that’s
magnified 10, 20 times.”
LOL, no it isn’t.
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"guns are inherently dangerous..."
Like an old Texas Ranger once said... if it wasn't dangerous I wouldn't be
carrying it!
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it "better". Know what you're changing out and why. You may spend a lot of money
fixing things that weren't broken to begin with. Shoot at least 500 rounds
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#18 · Jul 7, 2021 (Edited)
This was a local arrest last month. It was just across the river in Rock Island,
IL, a state that has so many Draconian firearm laws, and none of them work. See
if you can catch the "manual reloading" misinformation.
https://qctimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/rock-island-man-accused-of-owning-a-handgun-that-had-been-modified-to-shoot-without/article_7aa7d789-eb63-536e-93fa-3496876aa560.html
And just a few days ago, in my town, this guy was sentenced for having a Giggle
Glock.
https://qctimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/davenport-man-sentenced-to-prison-for-owning-unregistered-machine-gun/article_6b4182f4-dc07-59ab-a853-c9bc84609dc4.html#tracking-source=article-related-bottom
It seems someone isn't very successful at intercepting these devices.
No pulse, no problem.
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#19 · Jul 7, 2021
Having fired full auto, I've no real desire to own one.
As for this switch, only criminal stupidity would lead someone to make a Glock
into a full-auto toy and risk federal prison.
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#20 · Jul 7, 2021
Most governments have developed machine-pistols at one time or another. In WWI,
we developed a full-auto 1911 with 50-round drum for pilots/navigators to use
for defense before the planes were fitted with machine-guns. During the early
war which was the first widespread use of the airplane in war, there was an air
of chivalry among the pilots of the warring nations who usually waved at each
other. Before long, though, pistols began to be used and the situation rapidly
spiraled up to fully-armed combat aircraft having dogfights.
Glock has been making machine-pistols from day one, some with a little folding
fore-grip.
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#34 · Jul 21, 2022
> 1saxman said:
> In WWI, we developed a full-auto 1911 with 50-round drum for pilots/navigators
> to use for defense before the planes were fitted with machine-guns.
> Click to expand...
As far as I know, the WW1 Aviator 1911 was semi-auto with an extended stick
magazine (see pic). The first full auto 1911's I've heard of were the Lebman
conversions of the late 20's.
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#23 · Jul 21, 2021
I thought they made a Glock 18 that was full auto? May be dreaming!
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#24 · Jul 21, 2021
Glock does make the full-auto G18, but very few were ever sold to private
citizens before the Hughes Amendment in 1986 banned new full-autos except to LE
and dealers. Glock was careful to make the parts on the G18 to slightly
different dimensions, so that a Glock 17 slide won't fit a G18 frame and
vice-versa. As a result you can't easily convert a G17 to fire full-auto, or at
least you couldn't before this so-called "giggle switch" came out.
Avoid the temptation to replace everything on your brand-new 1911 just to make
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I would not mind owning a Beretta model 93 just to play with. But I would pass
on one of these jimmied up Glocks.
“People often ask me how I feel about my invention being used to kill people
every day and the AK being a common weapon of ethnic conflicts. I want to make
it clear that I created my assault rifle to protect my country. You can blame
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#26 · Jul 22, 2021
I've never had a chance to shoot a real machine gun, and in my state they're
illegal anyway, but I have shot some of the full-auto BB guns currently on the
market. It's probably the same story as with the real ones... very fun for the
first couple of minutes as you hose down targets with a single mag, then after
awhile it gets boring and you realize you're just wasting ammo. If full-auto
firearms were legal in WA and not priced so that only rich people can afford
them I'd almost certainly have one, but I can say with confidence that the
go-fast setting would hardly ever be used.
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#29 · Sep 18, 2021
The name alone makes me want one.
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#30 · Sep 18, 2021
You can make any 1911/2011 full auto just by filing off the top of the
disconnector. Disconnectors are cheap, legal and easy to swap.
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#31 · Sep 18, 2021
These work. We took one off someone last year and test it.
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#32 · Jan 12, 2022
Full Auto on a Sidearm is Useless... Simply "Spray & Pray". My Sidearm is to get
me to my Long Gun. Then the Party Starts
"A Lock is to keep an Honest Man Honest" Like a Safety is to keep Some People
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#36 · Nov 8, 2023
I mean full auto pistols properly designed is less than rifle but more than
gimmick. I didn't necessarily adore APS but didn't consider it a total piece of
garbage either it had its uses. The whole gigle switches and bump stocks and
what not to me are ways to circumvent the law on the books throw stuff at the
wall and see what sticks. Instead of stress testing the law how about we start
electing politicians to change the law. If we want select fires back on civilian
market let's over turn the law on the books and clarify whole bunch of other ill
written laws in the process and do it the right way instead of playing games
with ATF. I mean it does actually require a politician who wants to represent
the people vs peacocking in the halls of power, but that's a different story.
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