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ALASKA AIRLINES EMBRAER E175 DIVERTS AFTER COCKPIT JUMPSEAT PASSENGER TRIES TO
SHUT DOWN ENGINES
Submitted 2 months ago
An Alaska Airlines Embraer E175 was forced to divert from its flight path, as a
person sitting in the flight deck jump seat attempted to shut down the
aircraft's engines. The flight, operated by Horizon Air, safely diverted to
Portland International Airport (PDX) on October 22, 2023. According to
Flightradar24, Horizon Air flight AS2059 was a regularly scheduled flight
between Seattle Paine Field International Airport (PAE) and San Francisco
International Airport (SFO). Less than an hour… (simpleflying.com) More...
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dupleix0 2 months ago 9
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According to recent news, this off duty pilot has said to the investigators he
has been using hallucinog substances (?). He was so dreaming awake that he
allegedly also tried to open one of the read exits of the plane...
He was obviously...not well!
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rob strong 2 months ago 10
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Mushrooms. First time taking them... (allegedly). Another excuse.
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John D 2 months ago 12
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People in certain occupations ought know that some things are off limits,
period. I have a security clearance. One quick way to loose it is to pick weed
back up after a several decade hiatus. Not going to happen.
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ratko vasic 2 months ago 1
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Another way of loosing security clearance is to share it on internet :-)
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John D 2 months ago 1
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If that’s how it worked, I/2 the people with profiles on LinkedIn would lose
theirs.
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Cynthia Fisher 2 months ago -4
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Could be another lost pilot to YKW!
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C J 2 months ago 28
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This is why we can't have nice things. Bye-bye jumpseating!
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Bob Hallissy 2 months ago 17
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On the other hand, one could argue that in the case where one of the two on-duty
crew members in the cockpit decides to try something like this, having a
jumpseater improves the odds of subduing the errant crew member and thus
achieving a better outcome.
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Rob Palmer 2 months ago 2
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At least the co-pilot should always be a strong, husky guy!
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AJ Mesalic 2 months ago 9
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Or my daughter. He wouldn't have stood a chance.
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C J 2 months ago 4
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Bob...mistake number 1 in your statement is that it makes too much sense! haha
You're completely correct in my opinion. Frankly, this is just one event that
shouldn't (but will) cause any change in industry practices around jumpseating.
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btweston 2 months ago 17
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Well, the guy was a pilot. Just like the Germanwings pilot that locked the
captain out of the cockpit and crashed into the Alps.
Jumpseating has nothing to do with it, aside from the guy sitting in a jumpseat.
He could have just as easily done this while sitting in a seat at the controls.
The question is why, though most people won’t care why.
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thegrump 2 months ago 4
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my instinct is to be completely against suggestions of making scheduled
commercial flights completely automated - the technology ain't there, but it is
probably a few years away, not a few decades. For the last couple of decades,
the worst airline disasters have by someone on the flight deck intentionally
crashing the aircraft.
I mean, the positive side of it is clearly that air travel is statistically
safer than almost anything but sleeping. Improvements in training and skills of
flight crews have no doubt contributed to that. But we may have reached the
point of diminishing returns.
I am not ready to buy a ticket on El Cheapo airlines with a Tesla
Panicstop-at-random(tm) flight system running the flight deck. But there are
more responsible players in the aviation world, with a lot more to lose from
designs not completely thought through *cough*737max*cough*
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AJ Mesalic 2 months ago 2
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It almost sounds like you're saying that the human is now the most unreliable
component of commercial aviation when viewed based on failure causes.
Of course, it's the humans that make it as safe as it is too. I think it's a
case for AI/remote control oversite at least. Maybe the combination of real and
artificial intel will be great for the flying public.
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C J 2 months ago 1
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Yes, I can understand that he could have done it while flying himself, but
saying that jumpseating has nothing to do with it is a pretty ignorant. You
referenced the Germanwings event, which led to European airlines enforcing rules
like US carriers have where a single pilot can't be alone in a cockpit. Reducing
the people in cockpit who are just riding will be viewed as the change needed to
avoid this in the future...hence, bye-bye jumpseating.
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Paul Novarese 2 months ago 5
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that's completely the opposite of what happened in response to the germanwings
case. Reducing the number of people in the cockpit is what enabled that
situation. Two people in the cockpit against a crazy attacker have a better
chance than one.
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Bob Hallissy 2 months ago 3
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I think you are misreading CJ's post. He said "Reducing the people in the
cockpit who are just riding" -- that is, reducing the jumpseater numbers (not
reducing the flight crew numbers).
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victorbravo77 2 months ago 8
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A link to atc comms by VAS Aviation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbU6E6VJx30
And another article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/23/us/alaska-airlines-flight-diverted.html?unlocked_article_code=1.40w.h61Z.OosZqjRhOQ9_&smid=url-share
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stardog01 2 months ago 8
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What's scary is this guy was a current pilot. He could have done this on a
flight where he was a pilot.
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mbrews 2 months ago 4
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Update. Recent news says the off-duty pilot had taken "magic mushrooms". There
are state laws in Washington state and Colorado state tending to
"de-criminalize" psilocybin. Is California next ?
Does the aviation industry need to consider psychoactives in fitness-for-duty
screening ?
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/26/california-magic-mushroom-legalization-alaska-airlines-pilot-00123670
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John D 2 months ago 2
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Right? I understood they were ferrying him to SFO for his flight!
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mbrews 2 months ago 4
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Not exactly. As per news reports which named the suspect, the suspect resides in
the SFO California Bay Area. Could have been simply catching a company ride home
from Seattle area to SFO area. The investigation will tell us
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Larry Toler 2 months ago 9
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This reminds me of the Fed Ex pilot jump seating who almost killed the crew
while flying. Amazingly no one died and the plane was safely landed.
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John D 2 months ago 9
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I expect there'll be a policy change on visitors to the cockpits before the end
of the day.
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jmilleratp 2 months ago 9
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The FAA is purely reactionary. So yes.
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Conner Lipke 2 months ago -1
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I wouldn't say visitors after the flight but probably for jumpseating. Honestly
who knows.
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C J 2 months ago -4
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You don't really know what "before the end of the day" means, do you?
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Larry Toler 2 months ago 3
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When all said and done.
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Dave Mathes 2 months ago 6
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....he didn't need the jumpseat, he was already flying....
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beilstwh 2 months ago 3
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the problem was the guy was trying to self Medicate for mental health issues,
the major downside for him was if he reported he was having mental issues he is
immediately grounded and will probably never fly commercial again. can I
understand the airlines, you bet.
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michael hagerty 2 months ago 7
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Well, I guess the magic mushrooms might explain things.
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thegrump 2 months ago 2
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as a former deadhead (ok probably need to be more specific here lol) I did use
'shrooms back in the day. They were actually quite pleasant - but that was when
I was healthy, well-rested, and in a relaxed place listening to some music - not
on the flight deck of an airliner after going 40 hours without sleeping.
I have had times when I've been awake for maybe 30 hours while responding to
some emergency, and I know that even without any mind-altering substances, I
struggled with basic decision-making and the ability to tell reality from
memories or ideas started to be a little fuzzy for any kind of nuanced thinking.
Sleep deprivation sucks. This poor guy was probably a mess even without tossing
back a handful of shrooms.
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Brian Freeman 2 months ago 4
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Drugs aren't bad because they're illegal - drugs are illegal because they're
bad.
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Brian Rushfeldt 2 months ago 4
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his story is suspect... he planned and got approval for jump seat, he knew what
switches to hit to crash plane... tells me he was planned sucide. Keep him off
ALL planes forever. want to kill yourslef -- go do it but do not risk others.
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rob strong 2 months ago 7
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Fire him, jail him, ban him for life from flying. So sick of mental health being
everyone's excuse. And mushrooms coming to a state near you... already approved
in several, so things will get more interesting everywhere. Spare me your micro
dosing comments also. Grow up.
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Josias Wattrelos 2 months ago 2
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For reasons like this, an employee about to be fired must be immediately removed
from company resources and all access.
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ekim125 2 months ago 2
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It really has little to do with jump seats; more to do with FAA antiquated, not
medical best-practices, mental health policies.
Pilot in question reports significant signs/symptoms of clinical depression with
suicidal ideation. My guess is that he researched how mushroom hallucinogens
have been(are) successfully being used to treat depression (many funded studies
looking at hallucinogens).
He, probably, in part because of afore mentioned ineffective FAA policies rt
mental health/psychoactive medications, tried self-medication to treat his
depression. Time to talk about those policies folks, they are dangerous. Mood
disorders are treatable, and folks in treatment are high functioning, adaptive
to handling high stress situations.
Folks in high stress careers benefit from open honest mental health care
including counseling and psychotherapeutics from experienced psychiatrists - not
just a primary care doc prescribing psychoactive medications.
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Brian Rushfeldt 2 months ago 3
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thankfully he did what he did and was sucessfully subdued. he was scheduled to
fly out of SFO later. He must be on a NEVER FLY list forever.
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Emily Borowski 2 months ago 3
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Here’s an update from a local news station with a link to the court document.
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/im-not-ok-moments-before-off-duty-pilot-allegedly-tried-to-bring-down-plane-revealed/
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Tim Dyck 2 months ago 3
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Thanks for the link.
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Conner Lipke 2 months ago 3
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Riding Jumpseat will probably be way more restrictive for awhile after that.
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Rob Palmer 2 months ago 2
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Too bad his friends/family couldn't have gotten him into a different hobby, such
as model electric trains, instead of the "Crazy mushrooms". Good, quick way to
end a great career. Maybe FAA needs a recommended hobby list?
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John Prukop 2 months ago 1
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Looking at his FAA Airman Certificates, WHY would this individual RISK IT ALL to
do such a stupid, pyschedelic Mushroom 'TRIP' while transiting to his very nice
home? What exactly TRIGGERED this individual to go to this extent? Human factors
are obviously in question here. Is this what other Alaska/Horizon pilots are
pressured with - like 40-HOURS of no sleep to make the sched? Something is
seriously wrong with this entire picture. And nothing reported in the MSM can be
trusted.
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ekim125 2 months ago 1
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It’s got nothing to do with rational. He has a mood disorder (Depression). He
was desperate, the industry essentially prohibits evaluation & treatment of mood
disorders, so he perhaps tried to self-medicate with a psychoactive substance
proven useful in treating Depression, which does not require a visit to a
physician and Rx.
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Cynthia Fisher 2 months ago 1
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Are they reporting here yet of all the in-air mishaps with pilots and first
officers keeling over onboard; the diversions due to this? Other platforms are
running these numbers daily and the number of dead or disabled pilots is
mounting exponentially; thus more delayed and cancelled flights due to pilot
shortages. FAA even lowered the safe window for troponin levels in pilots so
more unhealthy ones can pass the flight physicals. It’s all because of the YKWs!
Be safe up there!
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Scott Wiggins 2 months ago -1
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I'm flying privately after a military career. Combined forty years in the
cockpit. I've never heard of so many in flight deaths as in the last couple of
years. As well, there are cases of unresponsive pilots in single piloted
aircraft that crash with the NTSB not knowing what happened. My information is
anecdotal. I doubt the vaunted FAA Aeromedical people want to track the
increases since they didn't say a word about Biden's mandate. They aren't going
to report on themselves are they?
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C J 2 months ago 1
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"You've never heard of so many deaths" is a sound and verifiable data source.
Well done on leaning into the "trust me, I'm a pilot" methodology. Also, which
crashes are you referring to? My assumption is the recent Citation crash in
Virginia. If you don't know what happened there, you have no business being in a
cockpit. And if you think that that accident is related to vaccines, then you
must also believe that the pilots in the King Air crash in Australia, Payne
Stewarts pilots, and the pilots of Helios 522 are all time travelers who had
lived through their vaccines in 2020+, and then went back in time to pilot those
flights. Sound logic, Scott. You're a real intelligent guy. I'm sure the
military misses that brain power.
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John Prukop 2 months ago -5
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Ya have to wonder, did this pilot take ANY of the Trumpee "OPERATION WARPSPEED"
shots or boosters? That in and of itself could be the underlying problem.
Millions have been disabled, destroyed or died from that criminal act. Just look
at all the athletes who've taken the jabs and died or been disablled by
myocarditis.
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ekim125 2 months ago 1
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Bullshit John
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John Prukop 2 months ago -2
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Go do some serious research and you will find that what I've stated is the
absolute truth. The jabs have caused numerous victims of myocarditis,
incapacitation, blood clots and death. You might want to to discover what these
doctors have to say about it: Dr. Thomas Cowan; Dr. Andrew Kaufman; Dr. Sam
Bailey (co-author of Virus Mania); and, Naturopathic Dr. Amandha Vollmer (see
Yummy.Doctor).
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John D 2 months ago 2
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FFS. Every one of these people are discredited conspiracy theorists.
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C J 2 months ago 0
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lol Time to get off the internet for a bit John. You talk about "serious"
research, but you'll only read what fuels your narrative. You, just like the far
left wingers that you probably despise, are an unwitting puppet.
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Helen Hecker 2 months ago 1
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If the jump seat pilot was successful, was there any way to restart the engines
while at altitude?
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Colin Seftel 2 months ago 0
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No. I am not aware of a modern design that would allow the engine to continue
operating after activating the fire extinguishing system.
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James Cox 2 months ago 8
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Pulling the fire handles only shuts off fuel etc, you can reset them by moving
them back to the normal position, so an engine start could be possible. Firing
the fire extinguishers is a separate action.
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David Beattie 2 months ago 6
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The engine is capable of a restart even if extinguisher is fired. It could cause
some damage since the extinguishent is corrosive and may cause some minor damage
but not a total failure. Keep in mind the extinguishers discharge around but not
inside the engine.
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Dave Mathes 2 months ago 4
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...give KUDOS where KUDOS due..the front seats had their acts together!...
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F Holden 2 months ago 1
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Off-duty pilot accused of trying to crash Alaska Airlines jet cites breakdown,
"Mr Emerson also referenced taking psychedelic mushrooms, the complaint says."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67207361
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victorbravo77 2 months ago 1
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...developing story.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/24/us/alaska-airlines-off-duty-pilot-arraignment.html?unlocked_article_code=1.5Ew.MsFO.tdhrT62sSKmr&smid=url-share
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jmilleratp 2 months ago -5
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FAA Aeromedical stops people like me from working as pilots because of minor
medical conditions. But, the FAA has no problem letting people like this fly
unrestricted. Your government "at work."
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C J 2 months ago -2
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From what I've seen, there wasn't any indication prior to the event that the
pilot was showing or had reported any mental health issues. Given that those
issues may have been completely hidden, you can't compare it to something like
heart disease which presents itself to a medical professional. Despite what the
signals may be telling you through your tin foil hat, what you're saying isn't
an apples to apples comparison and you can't blame it on government functions.
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jmilleratp 2 months ago -20
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[This comment has been downvoted. Show anyway.]
The usual "Christian" member of the aviation community.
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C J 2 months ago -1
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Rarely have I associated Christianity with rational thinking, logic, and common
sense but I suppose I'll take it if that's what you're accusing me of? To be
blunt, I've got no idea what your comment is supposed to mean, but based on your
insane original comment, that isn't terribly surprising.
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jmilleratp 2 months ago -10
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Nothing about you would surprise anyone.
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C J 2 months ago -4
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Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?
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jmilleratp 2 months ago -11
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Why would I read your babble? Even if I did, it would like trying to decipher a
toddler's mumblings.
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C J 2 months ago -6
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You're adorable. You seem to be reading (or at least sounding out the big words
the best you can) and responding eagerly. I appreciate that you're a fan of
mine. Thanks, champ.
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jmilleratp 2 months ago -6
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Timing is everything! I just got online this morning and there was notification
of another random reply. Every single reply you make is out of the "Trolling for
Dummies" book. It's all completely predictable, so why read it? Thanks for the
"champ." Anyone who reads these squawks daily knows that everyone on here always
gets a "Thanks, champ" or "Okay, boomer" from you.
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C J 2 months ago -6
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First, none of this explains your strange, nonsensical comments. Second, saying
that mental health issues aren't as easy as a physical condition for a doctor to
note isn't trolling (not to mention that everyone is still confused by how you
associated this with the government or how they should have known about this
guy). FINALLY...I thought you said you didn't read my comments ya silly goose???
As I said before though, I appreciate it sport! Keep your chin up. I trust that
you're better than this performance shows.
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jmilleratp 2 months ago -3
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Hey, so far I have gotten "sport" and "champ." I can only hope for "boomer."
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C J 2 months ago -5
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In due time, boomer, in due time.
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jmilleratp 2 months ago 0
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My life is now complete.
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Scott Wiggins 2 months ago -8
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Well, they allow very few legal drugs for pilots but they sure tried to mandate
an experimental vaccine for pilots. I see lots of died in flight cases now. Our
government is the enemy for sure. States legalizing drugs are merely fueling
addiction. A handful of loser users have done this.
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beilstwh 2 months ago 1
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the covid vaccine is one of the most effective and safe vaccine that was ever
deployed, actually do real scientific research and not parrot the garbage coming
out of fox news
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David Beattie 2 months ago -1
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And how good are you at picking out who is or isn’t crazy or who has the
potential? I’m sure you would excoriate the FAA if they required a full
psychiatric screening before every flight. Like many, this is the case of
someone who appears totally normal 99% of the time. Nobody knew.
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jmilleratp 2 months ago 0
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You should certainly have had a full psychological battery of tests before
touching an aircraft.
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jbermo 2 months ago 0
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Amazing that a mere little regional jet of today carries more passengers than
any state-of-the-art mainline prop airliner of the 50s.
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Tim Dyck 2 months ago 2
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Not really that amazing since technology is advancing at an ever accelerating
rate. But wile these regionals are now hauling more and more passengers we
should reflect on how air travel has gone from something that only a few could
afford to mass transportation that the majority can afford. This has allowed us
freedom to travel that our grandparents wouldn’t have thought possible.
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Scott Wiggins 2 months ago -1
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I joined the military in the early 80s. More senior officers and NCOs had many
stories of drug abuse aboard ship, working on aircraft, even flying aircraft.
Mandatory urinalysis pretty well eradicated drug use in the military. Now, blue
states want to bring all those problems back. Drugs are poison and extremely
insidious. Easily hidden and easily taken to impair oneself. The Legalize it
crowd have gotten their way after decades and the blood is on their hands. I
know two people in Ventura, CA who both lost sons to fentanyl. California is in
real trouble due to soft on drug policies.
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John D 2 months ago 0
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FFS
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