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NUMLOCK - HOW DO YOU JUST KEEP IT "ON" ALL THE TIME?
1.
mb1280
Posts : 81
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
New 30 Sep 2019 #1
NUMLOCK - HOW DO YOU JUST KEEP IT "ON" ALL THE TIME?
> A couple of things I've tried:
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> Provides a visual
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> TrayStatus . . . https://www.traystatus.com/
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> Hear a tone when you press CAPS LOCK, NUM LOCK, or SCROLL LOCK
>
> Control Panel / Ease of Access Center / Make the keyboard easier to use /
> [check] Turn on Toggle keys
>
> Sometimes, a program will quietly toggle it off, though - like Excel
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> I've looked at reviews for some of these programs that are supposed to
> keep NumLock on all the time, but it looks like they fail sometimes.
>
> Maybe just "indicating" a state change is easier, for some reason. Is
> there a program that gives you a tone for that?
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3.
Josey Wales
Posts : 25,716
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New 30 Sep 2019 #2
> I have an option in my Bios to turn it on or off.
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RickC
Posts : 1,113
Windows 10 Pro (+ Windows 10 Home VMs for testing)
New 30 Sep 2019 #3
> The NumLock status is is stored in the registry at
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Keyboard using an entry called
> InitialKeyboardIndicators. The entry has 2 states - 0 and 2, corresponding
> to NumLock Off and NumLock On respectively.
>
> When I'm setting up a new device I use the following REG file:
>
>
> Code:
>
> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>
> ; Set NumLock ON as default for new accounts
> [HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Keyboard]
> "InitialKeyboardIndicators"="2"
>
> ; Set NumLock ON as default for current logged on user account
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Keyboard]
> "InitialKeyboardIndicators"="2"
>
> I haven't experienced any issues with NumLock turning itself off, even
> when using Excel.
>
> Using AutoHotkey it would be easy to write a small program to check for a
> changed state (using a timer and RegRead) and to sound a warning tone if
> the state changed. However, constantly checking the state would invariably
> take processor cycles.
>
> An alternative would be a scheduled task set to check the NumLock state at
> logon.
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6.
Farvatten
Posts : 838
Windows 10 Pro 64bit 21H2 19044.1826
New 30 Sep 2019 #4
> I found these other values in my own setup notes:
>
> Method 1 – Registry Setting
>
> Navigate to the following location in the registry:
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Keyboard\InitialKeyboardIndicators
>
> Change the value of InitialKeyboardIndicators
>
> 0 - Turn all indicators Off (NumLock, CapsLock, ScrollLock)
>
> 1 - Turn CapsLock On
>
> 2 - Turn NumLock On
>
> 3 - Turn CapsLock and NumLock On
>
> 4 - Turn ScrollLock On
>
> 5 - Turn CapsLock and ScrollLock On
>
> 6 - Turn NumLock and ScrollLock On
>
> 7 - Turn all indicators On (NumLock, CapsLock, ScrollLock)
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RickC
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New 30 Sep 2019 #5
> @Farvatten - Excellent info. I had never seen a complete list before.
> Thank you.
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mb1280
Posts : 81
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Thread Starter
New 13 Oct 2019 #6
INSTEAD OF VBA ALONE, GET VBA TO USE WINDOWS SCRIPT HOST
> Excel 2010 VBA SendKeys was doing it - in a macro that I made - this
> works:
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> SendKeys is messing with my NumLock key via VBA code in Access form . . .
> SendKeys is messing with my NumLock key via VBA code in Access form -
> Stack Overflow
>
> The SendKeys() function that is built-in VBA has really a side effect that
> causes NumLock to be deactivated.
>
> But you can use a workaround and call another implementation of the same
> function that is a part of WSCRIPT component (a part of Windows operating
> system).
>
> The following sample code shows, how a reference to this component can be
> made and then its method called:
>
> Set WshShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
> WshShell.SendKeys "^g", True
>
> This way, you get the same functionality (calling Ctrl-G keyboard shortcut
> in the example), but there is no issue with NumLock in this case.
>
> . . . Failed to send TAB if Numlock enabled
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> This is too complicated, and I don't think that SendKeys would be a big
> security risk for the home user:
>
> API: Replacement for Sendkeys . . . The problem with SendKeys causing
> NumLock to turn off is well known in the Office/VB environment. Here's a
> custom MySendkeys routine which you can use as a replacement instead . . .
> Note: Under most circumstances, SendKeys is not recommended in a
> production environment. This is because the keystrokes are processed by
> whichever window is currently active on the desktop. Obviously this will
> cause unpredictable behavior (to say the least) in case another app
> receives the focus while your code is processing the Sendkeys statement.
> If you're unlucky, the keystrokes when sent to application "y" may cause
> all documents to be deleted or the hard drive to be formatted. So, simply
> put, try to avoid Sendkeys at all cost . . . API: Replacement for Sendkeys
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