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• NaN / NaN • NaN / NaN Back CA Skip navigation Search Search Search with your voice Sign in CA DNA and the Book of Mormon | Ep. 1594 | LDS Discussions Ep. 05 Search Watch later Share Copy link Info Shopping Tap to unmute 2x If playback doesn't begin shortly, try restarting your device. • Up next Live Upcoming CancelPlay Now Mormon Stories Podcast Subscribe Subscribed Mormon Stories Podcast is the longest-running and most successful podcast in Mormonism - hosted by Dr. John Dehlin. At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We also occasionally interview scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1) Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology, 2) Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis, and 3) Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions. Mormon Stories Podcast is a product of the Open Stories Foundation - a 501c3 non-profit dedicated to supporting Mormons in religious transition. Tight vs Loose Translation of the Book of Mormon | Ep. 1599 | LDS Discussions Ep. 06 1:40:58 Mormon Stories Podcast Subscribe Subscribed You're signed out Videos you watch may be added to the TV's watch history and influence TV recommendations. To avoid this, cancel and sign in to YouTube on your computer. CancelConfirm Share Include playlist An error occurred while retrieving sharing information. Please try again later. 0:01 0:02 / 2:00:17•Watch full videoLive • Introduction • Scroll for details DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON | EP. 1594 | LDS DISCUSSIONS EP. 05 Mormon Stories Podcast Mormon Stories Podcast 264K subscribers Join <__slot-el> Subscribe <__slot-el> Subscribed 1.6K Share Download Download Save 82K views 2 years ago LDS Discussions - An Examination of Mormon Truth Claims 82,583 views • Premiered May 17, 2022 • LDS Discussions - An Examination of Mormon Truth Claims Show less While God (in the D&C), Joseph Smith, and most Mormon Prophets certainly knew who the Lamanites were, DNA Science has put the modern Church in a precari …...more ...more CHAPTERS VIEW ALL INTRODUCTION INTRODUCTION 0:00 INTRODUCTION 0:00 DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON 3:18 DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON 3:18 CHANGING ONE WORD THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING CHANGING ONE WORD THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING 9:55 CHANGING ONE WORD THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING 9:55 THE PROBLEM THAT DNA POSES FOR THE BOOK OF MORMON THE PROBLEM THAT DNA POSES FOR THE BOOK OF MORMON 10:35 THE PROBLEM THAT DNA POSES FOR THE BOOK OF MORMON 10:35 CAREFULLY WORDED STATEMENTS TO DIMINISH THE SCIENTIFIC FINDINGS CAREFULLY WORDED STATEMENTS TO DIMINISH THE SCIENTIFIC FINDINGS 14:54 CAREFULLY WORDED STATEMENTS TO DIMINISH THE SCIENTIFIC FINDINGS 14:54 THREE EXAMPLES OF DNA IN AMERICA BEFORE THE BOOK OF MORMON THREE EXAMPLES OF DNA IN AMERICA BEFORE THE BOOK OF MORMON 21:28 THREE EXAMPLES OF DNA IN AMERICA BEFORE THE BOOK OF MORMON 21:28 THE RETROFITTING OF LARGER POPULATIONS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON THE RETROFITTING OF LARGER POPULATIONS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON 27:31 THE RETROFITTING OF LARGER POPULATIONS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON 27:31 THERE WERE NO OTHER CIVILIZATIONS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON THERE WERE NO OTHER CIVILIZATIONS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON 28:30 THERE WERE NO OTHER CIVILIZATIONS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON 28:30 Explore the podcast 58 episodes 58 episodes LDS Discussions - An Examination of Mormon Truth Claims Mormon Stories Podcast Podcasts Transcript Follow along using the transcript. Show transcript MORMON STORIES PODCAST 264K subscribers Videos About Videos About Free Facebook Community Instagram TikTok Discord Show less LIVE CHAT REPLAY See what others said about this video while it was live. Open panel LDS Discussions - An Examination of Mormon Truth Claims DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON | EP. 1594 | LDS DISCUSSIONS EP. 05 82,583 views82K views Premiered May 17, 2022 1.6K Share Download Download Save 395 COMMENTS Sort comments Sort by Top comments Newest first Add a comment... @JILLIAN6788 2 years ago LDS discussions saved me during my faith crisis 3.5 years ago. I was pregnant with my 4th baby and had 3 under the age of 5 running around. My brain was fried trying to sort through so many historical documents. He helped me make sense of the gospel topics essays and put everything I was already compiling in one place. I went from flipping through ~40 open tabs to just opening up LDS discussions and having everything in one place. Thank you thank you thank you, “Mike.” Show less Read more Like 278 Dislike ❤ by Mormon Stories Podcast Reply 3 replies 3 replies @DEBORAHBUJNOCKI4052 6 months ago Again, a non-Mormon and believe me, utterly fascinated with Mormon history and all your subject matter. I can't get enough! Thank you so much. Show less Read more Like 7 Dislike Reply @KRANIODESIGN4555 2 years ago as a former lamanite with a biology degree, I approve this message Show less Read more Like 256 Dislike Reply 8 replies 8 replies @LESLIEDAUBERT1411 10 months ago I come from the Seneca and Lenape nations. When I was introduced to the Book of Mormon it didn't take long to convert me because my people were finally being acknowledged. But for some time I keep coming up to see that it was a mistake. They shouldn't have taken advantage of me. Show less Read more Like 15 Dislike Reply @CITIZEN3902 2 years ago Former "Lamanite," here, no longer waiting to become "white and delightsome." There was no formal announcement made to Native Americans either, just quiet word of mouth. This shameful doctrine was conjured up by another man-made religion bent on control, instilling fear, and trying to keep up with that other powerful church in collected riches. My DNA analysis indicates I'm East Asian, NOT Israeli- the church's (false) prophets never anticipated this scientific development. I do believe they prophesied their own demise though: the fall of the great and abominable church..."and great was the fall thereof." I have my popcorn ready... lol Show less Read more Like 100 Dislike ❤ by Mormon Stories Podcast Reply 2 replies 2 replies @JONIPITCHER7185 1 year ago In like 2007 I had a guy from china tell me that the people in mexico have more in common genetically with him then Jerusalem. I honestly had no idea what he was getting at. I wish someone YEARS ago would have kindly sat me down and explained all the wholes in my religion. I wish I had known BEFORE I made all kinds of life choices based on lies. Show less Read more Like 26 Dislike Reply @LAURENJOHNS7276 2 years ago As someone whose family was "encouraged" to assimilate into white culture, joining the church was probably one of the worst things to have happened to my ancestors! Not only were their lands taken, forced to migrate elsewhere, stolen from their homes to attend residential schools, forced to live in white "civilized" people's homes, punished for speaking their language and practicing their cultural rituals... on top of that the LDS church taught them to not trust their tribal elders with history, purpose, and practice, rather, to trust some phony book that JS made up and compiled from various sources. Over the generations my family has put away all native cultural practices, stories, language, and community opting instead for the church's practices, stories, language and community. Since leaving the church 1.5 years ago, I have been DESPERATELY trying to reconnect with my native heritage, with a very small amount of success. I am so far removed from my tribe that has a dying language and a trifurcated home base ALL BECAUSE THE CHURCH PASSED THE BOM OFF AS PURE HISTORY that contained none of the "wicked traditions of my fathers". DNA evidence crushed me; it crushed my identity. The beauty and truth was in our heritage, and my family was manipulated by the church into denying that truth and beauty. Keep speaking up! This work is vital! Thank you for the emotional labor you put into each episode- Mormon Stories has truly been a lifeline through a difficult and painful transition! Love to you all! Show less Read more Like 195 Dislike ❤ by Mormon Stories Podcast Reply 5 replies 5 replies @RICKSKEPTICAL 2 years ago I remember as a younger man how many many members were so excited about DNA studies and were so sure that this would at last prove the prophets right. Nothing like the past to put a magnifying glass on present claims. Thanks for the vid. Show less Read more Like 18 Dislike Reply @TOMMYSTIRLAND6715 1 year ago I’ve been struggling for quite some time and had the opportunity to play a round of golf with a member of the quorum of the 70 about six months ago. I brought up some of the personal concerns that I was having (nothing about church doctrine, more just my own observations) and he kinda went out on a limb to say that the issues that “anti-Mormon” people are bringing up is nothing new. It’s the same issues people have bringing up against the church for decades. Now I don’t know if he was straight up lying, if this was something that he was being fed by the 12 to tell struggling members, or if he really believes that. Clearly it was designed to prevent me from looking any further, because this DNA evidence is something new and it’s a big deal. I’m so grateful that I did not take his advice or I may still be stuck in it today. Show less Read more Like 13 Dislike Reply 1 reply 1 reply @BIGSKYPIONEER1898 2 years ago Can you just imagine how heartbreaking it would be to have been named after a character from BOM, while having your culture and history stolen from you? and THEN finding out it was all a lie? Show less Read more Like 107 Dislike ❤ by Mormon Stories Podcast Reply 6 replies 6 replies @ROCKMONSTERLORD7678 2 months ago Mike should take his essays and compile them into a marketable book. I’d certainly buy it, and I’m sure most people watching this series would also buy it. Show less Read more Like 3 Dislike ❤ by Mormon Stories Podcast Reply @TINAKIRKMAN2742 1 year ago I enjoy your podcasts. I do have to do it In small doses. Even though I have not gone to the church for years I have problems with depression when I hear to much a one time. It took me several years to get rid of my garments even after I quit wearing them. It amazing to me how hard it is to free myself from the endoctrination. Show less Read more Like 20 Dislike Reply 2 replies 2 replies @BOBBYAUGUST6568 2 years ago Joseph F Smith came to New Zealand and spoke at Church College...he said we were some of the decendants of Hagoth and there was no perhaps about it Thanks guys...so much resonates Show less Read more Like 23 Dislike ❤ by Mormon Stories Podcast Reply @DEIDREKLINE2149 1 year ago This is great! Ive been an ex-Mormon for decades and just discovered this channel. I’ve been wondering how the church has been dealing with DNA and modern archaeology. They certainly DID teach us in the sixties that ALL the population of the Americas came from the Middle East; that they were descended from the enslaved Jews that built the Egyptian pyramids. And that’s how they knew how to build them in the Americas. Having seen both, I was struck at how really different they are from each other, not the same at all. There’s a lot of archaeological proof that the Egyptian pyramids weren’t even built by slaves. This is a ton of fun! Show less Read more Like 12 Dislike ❤ by Mormon Stories Podcast Reply @AMANDA_WEBER1 9 months ago I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for Native Americans to be told they are Lamanites and have their true history white washed. Show less Read more Like 11 Dislike Reply @JEFFNEALSPLACE 7 months ago Yo Geraldo, mi primo, I did my 23 and me and I found out that I am the 99 percentile of people that have Neanderthal DNA. A couple of interesting facts; 1) I gave my daughter the nickname of Leanderthal before I even knew this, and 2) Neandertals and Homo Homo Sapiens (modern humans) existed simultaneously on this amazing Garden of Eden planet that we live on. Great stuff Mike! I appreciate all your hard work on this John and Geraldo. Show less Read more Like 3 Dislike Reply 1 reply 1 reply @TQUIST61 2 years ago (edited) The DNA issue strikes at the heart of the church's foundation and truth claims . They built the church on this book, and with DNA evidence, it's been in my mind proven to be a fabrication. No other evidence is required to prove this (although there is so much more). Thanks for a fantastic review of this important topic! Show less Read more Like 59 Dislike Reply 3 replies 3 replies @NIEDRICHFAMILY 2 years ago It's so great to have Mike's LDS Discussions because he doesn't get paid. Although I think he deserves to, it is nice to be able to have a source to point people to like the overview project that has no financial motive. Show less Read more Like 36 Dislike ❤ by Mormon Stories Podcast Reply 7 replies 7 replies @BEACHKID74-CT2OB 10 months ago I LVE the science behind this. As a medical provider, they are not only ‘hijacking the heritage’(Geraldo was brilliant with this statement!!!!) they are affecting the medical care that is tailored to specific populations….. Show less Read more Like 8 Dislike Reply @SAMMYG6714 2 years ago Mikes work in making LDS Discussions is so important and easy to access and go over online. It was super important to my faith transition. The only thing I’d recommend for the podcast is that if he can slow down a little bit, these topics can get kind of complicated so if he can slow a bit and go through them to let it marinate for the listener. Show less Read more Like 14 Dislike ❤ by Mormon Stories Podcast Reply 1 reply 1 reply COMMENTS 395 Top comments Newest first CHAPTERS INTRODUCTION INTRODUCTION 0:00 INTRODUCTION 0:00 DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON 3:18 DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON 3:18 CHANGING ONE WORD THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING CHANGING ONE WORD THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING 9:55 CHANGING ONE WORD THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING 9:55 THE PROBLEM THAT DNA POSES FOR THE BOOK OF MORMON THE PROBLEM THAT DNA POSES FOR THE BOOK OF MORMON 10:35 THE PROBLEM THAT DNA POSES FOR THE BOOK OF MORMON 10:35 CAREFULLY WORDED STATEMENTS TO DIMINISH THE SCIENTIFIC FINDINGS CAREFULLY WORDED STATEMENTS TO DIMINISH THE SCIENTIFIC FINDINGS 14:54 CAREFULLY WORDED STATEMENTS TO DIMINISH THE SCIENTIFIC FINDINGS 14:54 THREE EXAMPLES OF DNA IN AMERICA BEFORE THE BOOK OF MORMON THREE EXAMPLES OF DNA IN AMERICA BEFORE THE BOOK OF MORMON 21:28 THREE EXAMPLES OF DNA IN AMERICA BEFORE THE BOOK OF MORMON 21:28 THE RETROFITTING OF LARGER POPULATIONS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON THE RETROFITTING OF LARGER POPULATIONS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON 27:31 THE RETROFITTING OF LARGER POPULATIONS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON 27:31 THERE WERE NO OTHER CIVILIZATIONS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON THERE WERE NO OTHER CIVILIZATIONS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON 28:30 THERE WERE NO OTHER CIVILIZATIONS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON 28:30 JOSEPH SMITH UNDERMINES APOLOGETIC EFFORTS JOSEPH SMITH UNDERMINES APOLOGETIC EFFORTS 33:48 JOSEPH SMITH UNDERMINES APOLOGETIC EFFORTS 33:48 GOD (THROUGH JOSEPH) UNDERCUTS OTHER POPULATIONS, TOO. GOD (THROUGH JOSEPH) UNDERCUTS OTHER POPULATIONS, TOO. 35:43 GOD (THROUGH JOSEPH) UNDERCUTS OTHER POPULATIONS, TOO. 35:43 THE PROBLEM THAT DNA CREATED FOR THE BOOK OF MORMON THE PROBLEM THAT DNA CREATED FOR THE BOOK OF MORMON 43:42 THE PROBLEM THAT DNA CREATED FOR THE BOOK OF MORMON 43:42 APOLOGETIC RESPONSES TO DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON APOLOGETIC RESPONSES TO DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON 45:20 APOLOGETIC RESPONSES TO DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON 45:20 SCIENCE ON DNA IS “TENTATIVE” SCIENCE ON DNA IS “TENTATIVE” 47:38 SCIENCE ON DNA IS “TENTATIVE” 47:38 THE EVOLUTION OF DNA STUDIES FROM MORMON STORIES THE EVOLUTION OF DNA STUDIES FROM MORMON STORIES 52:09 THE EVOLUTION OF DNA STUDIES FROM MORMON STORIES 52:09 THE BOOK OF MORMON PEOPLE WERE JUST A TINY GROUP IN A BIG WORLD THE BOOK OF MORMON PEOPLE WERE JUST A TINY GROUP IN A BIG WORLD 54:36 THE BOOK OF MORMON PEOPLE WERE JUST A TINY GROUP IN A BIG WORLD 54:36 THERE IS NO TEXTUAL EVIDENCE FOR OTHER PEOPLE THERE IS NO TEXTUAL EVIDENCE FOR OTHER PEOPLE 57:33 THERE IS NO TEXTUAL EVIDENCE FOR OTHER PEOPLE 57:33 UNDERSTANDING THE BASICS OF DNA - MORMON STORIES EPISODE UNDERSTANDING THE BASICS OF DNA - MORMON STORIES EPISODE 58:45 UNDERSTANDING THE BASICS OF DNA - MORMON STORIES EPISODE 58:45 POISONING THE WELL - DNA CAN’T TELL US ABOUT THE BOOK OF MORMON POISONING THE WELL - DNA CAN’T TELL US ABOUT THE BOOK OF MORMON 59:18 POISONING THE WELL - DNA CAN’T TELL US ABOUT THE BOOK OF MORMON 59:18 APPLYING THE ESSAY’S LOGIC OUTSIDE OF THE BOOK OF MORMON APPLYING THE ESSAY’S LOGIC OUTSIDE OF THE BOOK OF MORMON 1:02:00 APPLYING THE ESSAY’S LOGIC OUTSIDE OF THE BOOK OF MORMON 1:02:00 APOLOGETICS: QUESTIONING THE DATING OF THE ARRIVAL OF PEOPLE TO AMERICA. (AS HONEST AS THE LDS CHURCH CAN BE.) APOLOGETICS: QUESTIONING THE DATING OF THE ARRIVAL OF PEOPLE TO AMERICA. (AS HONEST AS THE LDS CHURCH CAN BE.) 1:05:15 APOLOGETICS: QUESTIONING THE DATING OF THE ARRIVAL OF PEOPLE TO AMERICA. (AS HONEST AS THE LDS CHURCH CAN BE.) 1:05:15 THIS IS WHY I STRESS THE NEED FOR APOLOGETICS TO BE CONSISTENT!! THIS IS WHY I STRESS THE NEED FOR APOLOGETICS TO BE CONSISTENT!! 1:06:50 THIS IS WHY I STRESS THE NEED FOR APOLOGETICS TO BE CONSISTENT!! 1:06:50 THE CHURCH CONTINUES TO MUDDY THE WATERS THE CHURCH CONTINUES TO MUDDY THE WATERS 1:10:05 THE CHURCH CONTINUES TO MUDDY THE WATERS 1:10:05 SCIENTISTS CAN’T RULE IT OUT SCIENTISTS CAN’T RULE IT OUT 1:12:00 SCIENTISTS CAN’T RULE IT OUT 1:12:00 AN EXAMPLE OF A SMALL MIGRATION TO THE AMERICAS AN EXAMPLE OF A SMALL MIGRATION TO THE AMERICAS 1:14:00 AN EXAMPLE OF A SMALL MIGRATION TO THE AMERICAS 1:14:00 WE DON’T KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR: THE FOUNDER EFFECT WE DON’T KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR: THE FOUNDER EFFECT 1:17:00 WE DON’T KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR: THE FOUNDER EFFECT 1:17:00 PROBLEMS WITH THE FOUNDER EFFECT AND THE BOOK OF MORMON PROBLEMS WITH THE FOUNDER EFFECT AND THE BOOK OF MORMON 1:17:47 PROBLEMS WITH THE FOUNDER EFFECT AND THE BOOK OF MORMON 1:17:47 THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO LOOK FOR THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO LOOK FOR 1:20:40 THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO LOOK FOR 1:20:40 SURPRISES IN DNA TESTING MEAN WE CAN’T KNOW ANYTHING? SURPRISES IN DNA TESTING MEAN WE CAN’T KNOW ANYTHING? 1:22:33 SURPRISES IN DNA TESTING MEAN WE CAN’T KNOW ANYTHING? 1:22:33 MORMON PROPHETS, SEERS, AND REVELATORS WEREN’T CONFUSED MORMON PROPHETS, SEERS, AND REVELATORS WEREN’T CONFUSED 1:25:00 MORMON PROPHETS, SEERS, AND REVELATORS WEREN’T CONFUSED 1:25:00 CHURCH MANUALS WEREN’T CONFUSED UNTIL DNA TESTING CHURCH MANUALS WEREN’T CONFUSED UNTIL DNA TESTING 1:29:10 CHURCH MANUALS WEREN’T CONFUSED UNTIL DNA TESTING 1:29:10 POPULATION BOTTLENECK POPULATION BOTTLENECK 1:30:20 POPULATION BOTTLENECK 1:30:20 PROBLEMS WITH THE POPULATION BOTTLENECK PROBLEMS WITH THE POPULATION BOTTLENECK 1:32:43 PROBLEMS WITH THE POPULATION BOTTLENECK 1:32:43 MORE ON POPULATION BOTTLENECKS MORE ON POPULATION BOTTLENECKS 1:35:00 MORE ON POPULATION BOTTLENECKS 1:35:00 GENETIC DRIFT OF DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON GENETIC DRIFT OF DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON 1:37:30 GENETIC DRIFT OF DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON 1:37:30 THROWING EVERYTHING AGAINST THE WALL AND HOPING SOMETHING STICKS THROWING EVERYTHING AGAINST THE WALL AND HOPING SOMETHING STICKS 1:38:05 THROWING EVERYTHING AGAINST THE WALL AND HOPING SOMETHING STICKS 1:38:05 CHERRY PICKING STUDIES TO MAKE THE BOOK OF MORMON PLAUSIBLE CHERRY PICKING STUDIES TO MAKE THE BOOK OF MORMON PLAUSIBLE 1:41:55 CHERRY PICKING STUDIES TO MAKE THE BOOK OF MORMON PLAUSIBLE 1:41:55 JAMIE HANIS HANDY SUMS IT UP SO WELL JAMIE HANIS HANDY SUMS IT UP SO WELL 1:44:08 JAMIE HANIS HANDY SUMS IT UP SO WELL 1:44:08 THE CHURCH’S CONCLUSION, AND ONE MORE FROM JAMIE HANIS HANDY THE CHURCH’S CONCLUSION, AND ONE MORE FROM JAMIE HANIS HANDY 1:45:00 THE CHURCH’S CONCLUSION, AND ONE MORE FROM JAMIE HANIS HANDY 1:45:00 THE CHURCH TREATS BOOK OF MORMON PEOPLE LIKE HEAVENLY MOTHER THE CHURCH TREATS BOOK OF MORMON PEOPLE LIKE HEAVENLY MOTHER 1:47:45 THE CHURCH TREATS BOOK OF MORMON PEOPLE LIKE HEAVENLY MOTHER 1:47:45 STEALING THE IDENTITIES OF NATIVE AMERICANS AND POLYNESIANS STEALING THE IDENTITIES OF NATIVE AMERICANS AND POLYNESIANS 1:49:45 STEALING THE IDENTITIES OF NATIVE AMERICANS AND POLYNESIANS 1:49:45 CONCLUSION ON DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON CONCLUSION ON DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON 1:52:15 CONCLUSION ON DNA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON 1:52:15 Sync to video time Sync to video time DESCRIPTION DNA and the Book of Mormon | Ep. 1594 | LDS Discussions Ep. 05 While God (in the D&C), Joseph Smith, and most Mormon Prophets certainly knew who the Lamanites were, DNA Science has put the modern Church in a precarious position. Today, The Church of Jesus-Christ of Latter-day Saints claims not to know anything about who and where the descendants of the Book of Mormon people are even though the record was explicitly preserved for them. Join John, Mike, and Gerardo as they discuss how the LDS Church has responded to DNA Studies that show that Native Americans are the descendants of eastern Asian populations instead of Israelites. LDS Discussions Essay on DNA and the Book of Mormon: https://www.ldsdiscussions.com/dna Chapters: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:03:18 DNA and the Book of Mormon 00:09:55 Changing One Word That Changed Everything 00:10:35 The problem that DNA poses for the Book of Mormon 00:14:54 Carefully worded statements to diminish the scientific findings 00:21:28 Three examples of DNA in America before the Book of Mormon 00:27:31 The Retrofitting of larger populations in the Book of Mormon 00:28:30 There were no other civilizations in the Book of Mormon 00:33:48 Joseph Smith undermines apologetic efforts 00:35:43 God (through Joseph) undercuts other populations, too. 00:43:42 The problem that DNA created for the Book of Mormon 00:45:20 Apologetic responses to DNA and the Book of Mormon 00:47:38 Science on DNA is “tentative” 00:52:09 The evolution of DNA studies from Mormon Stories: 00:54:36 The Book of Mormon people were just a tiny group in a big world 00:57:33 There is NO textual evidence for other people 00:58:45 Understanding the basics of DNA - Mormon Stories Episode 00:59:18 Poisoning the well - DNA Can’t tell us about the Book of Mormon 01:02:00 Applying the essay’s logic outside of the Book of Mormon 01:05:15 Apologetics: Questioning the dating of the arrival of people to america. (As honest as the LDS church can be.) 01:06:50 This is why I stress the need for apologetics to be consistent!! 01:10:05 The church continues to muddy the waters 01:12:00 Scientists can’t rule it out 01:14:00 An example of a small migration to the Americas 01:17:00 We don’t know what to look for: The Founder Effect 01:17:47 Problems with the Founder Effect and the Book of Mormon 01:20:40 The problem is that we know exactly what to look for 01:22:33 Surprises in DNA testing mean we can’t know anything? 01:25:00 Mormon prophets, seers, and revelators weren’t confused 01:29:10 Church Manuals Weren’t Confused Until DNA Testing 01:30:20 Population Bottleneck 01:32:43 Problems with the population bottleneck 01:35:00 More on population bottlenecks 01:37:30 Genetic Drift of DNA and the Book of Mormon 01:38:05 Throwing Everything Against the Wall and Hoping Something Sticks 01:41:55 Cherry Picking Studies to Make the Book of Mormon Plausible 01:44:08 Jamie Hanis Handy Sums It Up So Well 01:45:00 The Church’s Conclusion, and One More From Jamie Hanis Handy 01:47:45 The Church Treats Book of Mormon People like Heavenly Mother 01:49:45 Stealing the Identities of Native Americans and Polynesians 01:52:15 Conclusion on DNA and the Book of Mormon Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast... 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LDS Discussions on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/ldsdiscussions Facebook: facebook.com/ldsdiscussion Insta: instagram.com/ldsdiscussions Contact Mormon Stories: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Mormon Stories on Social Media: Instagram: / mormstories TikTok: / mormonstoriespodcast Discord: / discord Show less ...more While God (in the D&C), Joseph Smith, and most Mormon Prophets certainly knew who the Lamanites were, DNA Science has put the modern Church in a precarious position. Today, The Church of Jesus-Christ of Latter-day Saints claims not to know anything about who and where the descendants of the Book of Mormon people are even though the record was explicitly preserved for them. Join John, Mike, and Gerardo as they discuss how the LDS Church has responded to DNA Studies that show that Native Americans are the descendants of eastern Asian populations instead of Israelites. LDS Discussions Essay on DNA and the Book of Mormon: https://www.ldsdiscussions.com/dna Chapters: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:03:18 DNA and the Book of Mormon 00:09:55 Changing One Word That Changed Everything 00:10:35 The problem that DNA poses for the Book of Mormon 00:14:54 Carefully worded statements to diminish the scientific findings 00:21:28 Three examples of DNA in America before the Book of Mormon 00:27:31 The Retrofitting of larger populations in the Book of Mormon 00:28:30 There were no other civilizations in the Book of Mormon 00:33:48 Joseph Smith undermines apologetic efforts 00:35:43 God (through Joseph) undercuts other populations, too. 00:43:42 The problem that DNA created for the Book of Mormon 00:45:20 Apologetic responses to DNA and the Book of Mormon 00:47:38 Science on DNA is “tentative” 00:52:09 The evolution of DNA studies from Mormon Stories: 00:54:36 The Book of Mormon people were just a tiny group in a big world 00:57:33 There is NO textual evidence for other people 00:58:45 Understanding the basics of DNA - Mormon Stories Episode 00:59:18 Poisoning the well - DNA Can’t tell us about the Book of Mormon 01:02:00 Applying the essay’s logic outside of the Book of Mormon 01:05:15 Apologetics: Questioning the dating of the arrival of people to america. (As honest as the LDS church can be.) 01:06:50 This is why I stress the need for apologetics to be consistent!! 01:10:05 The church continues to muddy the waters 01:12:00 Scientists can’t rule it out 01:14:00 An example of a small migration to the Americas 01:17:00 We don’t know what to look for: The Founder Effect 01:17:47 Problems with the Founder Effect and the Book of Mormon 01:20:40 The problem is that we know exactly what to look for 01:22:33 Surprises in DNA testing mean we can’t know anything? 01:25:00 Mormon prophets, seers, and revelators weren’t confused 01:29:10 Church Manuals Weren’t Confused Until DNA Testing 01:30:20 Population Bottleneck 01:32:43 Problems with the population bottleneck 01:35:00 More on population bottlenecks 01:37:30 Genetic Drift of DNA and the Book of Mormon 01:38:05 Throwing Everything Against the Wall and Hoping Something Sticks 01:41:55 Cherry Picking Studies to Make the Book of Mormon Plausible 01:44:08 Jamie Hanis Handy Sums It Up So Well 01:45:00 The Church’s Conclusion, and One More From Jamie Hanis Handy 01:47:45 The Church Treats Book of Mormon People like Heavenly Mother 01:49:45 Stealing the Identities of Native Americans and Polynesians 01:52:15 Conclusion on DNA and the Book of Mormon Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast... LDS Discussions Playlist: • Joseph Smith and Treasure Digging | E... _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?d... Patreon: / mormonstories Amazon Smile: Be sure to select “Mormon Stories” website: https://smile.amazon.com app: https://amz.run/5r2M LDS Discussions Platforms: Website & Essays: https://www.ldsdiscussions.com Anchor: https://anchor.fm/lds-discussions Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2UkFsqY... YouTube Playlist on Mormon Stories Podcast: • LDS Discussions - An Examination of M... 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