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AND NOW, IT IS FORQ: “SONG FOR JIM”

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> A playful and grooving rhythmic interplay between guitar and keyboard, mixed
> in with chords that weave through interesting places via the connecting sinew
> of leading melodies. This piece is dedicated to the great composer and
> keyboard player - Jim Beard, who was truly one of a kind and is gone far too
> soon.
> 
> Video by Henry Hey
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1 darthstar  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:41:09pmreplyquote
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Love that their handle is from the Enuma Elish…



2 jaunte  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:47:26pmreplyquote
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3 darthstar  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:48:27pmreplyquote
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LO fucking L



4 Captain Ron  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:50:18pmreplyquote
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> Lot of Russians around that 2016 Trump campaign. SMH
> 
> — J/C MEDIA (@JCMEDIACOMPANY1) August 17, 2024

5 darthstar  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:50:21pmreplyquote
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re: #2 jaunte

We just need him to sell off enough Tesla and SpaceX stock to make him a
minority stockholder who can be kicked off the boards.

6 jaunte  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:50:52pmreplyquote
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BREAKING!







7 Unabogie  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:51:40pmreplyquote
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So the media is picking apart Kamala Harris’ price gouging law after not even
bothering to ask the Trump campaign for any details about anything?

Maybe they never cared about policy papers after all?

8 darthstar  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:52:50pmreplyquote
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re: #6 jaunte

> BREAKING!
> 
> [Embedded content]

SHE DIDN’T SHARE!!!

9 jaunte  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:54:37pmreplyquote
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re: #4 Captain Ron

Much smoke…

> “…After meeting Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner at a luncheon in honor of
> Henry Kissinger in March 2016, Simes began providing the Trump campaign with
> informal counsel on foreign policy, including advising on a speech Trump gave
> envisioning greater cooperation with Russia.
> 
> Simes and the Center for the National Interest featured prominently in the
> Mueller report, which cleared them of any wrongdoing. Around the same time,
> Simes underwent a Senate finance committee investigation into his contacts
> with Russian Central Bank official Alexander Torshin and Maria Butina, who was
> sentenced to 18 months in prison for trying to infiltrate US conservative
> groups before the 2016 election.
> 
> Last year, Simes moderated a conversation with Russian president Vladimir
> Putin at the St Petersburg international economic forum. And in June, Simes
> participated in a closed-door meeting with Putin, the state-owned Russian news
> agency Tass reported.”theguardian.com

10 sizzzzlerz  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:54:39pmreplyquote
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re: #194 Jay C

> Technically true, but the fire didn’t actually destroy Bonhomme Richard, but
> damaged it so severely that the Navy decided the cost of repairs (wiki sez
> est. at $3.2B) wasn’t worth it, and just wrote the ship off, and sold her for
> scrap.

I didn’t go into the fire on the Bonhomme Richard because it was just an example
of a recent fire on a US ship. That said, there are a ton of details about this
fire that make it a fascinating case study of just what NOT to do. Fire fighting
equipment on the ship was missing, there were differences in equipment fittings
between onshore resources, the SD fire department, and the ship, disagreements
between the Navy and the Fire Department ended with the Fire Department trucks
leaving the scene. By the time they got things straightened out, the ship was
lost.

A sailor was accused of and tried for arson, supposedly setting the fire in a
closet because he was unhappy about something. He was acquitted at his court
martial. Instead, several very senior Navy offices (Admiral rank, I believe)
were relieved of their command and I believe the ship Captain was also censured
and relieved of command. AFAIK, no one was ever convicted of starting the fire.
A truly remarkable outcome for such a catastrophic event.

11 darthstar  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:55:40pmreplyquote
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re: #7 Unabogie

> So the media is picking apart Kamala Harris’ price gouging law after not even
> bothering to ask the Trump campaign for any details about anything?
> 
> Maybe they never cared about policy papers after all?

She should be prepared for these questions and have a stock response: “Are you
picking my proposals apart because they aren’t as comprehensive as my
opponent’s? Or are you doing this because he doesn’t have any policies so you
feel the need to bring me down to his level and make this a race about
popularity?”

12 piratedan  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:56:29pmreplyquote
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re: #7 Unabogie

> So the media is picking apart Kamala Harris’ price gouging law after not even
> bothering to ask the Trump campaign for any details about anything?
> 
> Maybe they never cared about policy papers after all?

same as it ever was, they just needed something that they could down-ding her
on. The part that the MSM doesn’t get, is that she’s adroitly put the finger of
blame on corporate profits keeping prices high and causing inflation, NOT
government spending. Same thing with the housing proposals, the youngs and new
middle class want to invest in a place to call their own and grow a life and the
proposal for affordable housing is a damn sight more than they’ll get from the
GOP.

She’s proposing legislation that helps anyone not rich and not old.

The GOP has essentially stated, fuck you… get back to work.

13 Belafon  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:58:18pmreplyquote
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re: #6 jaunte


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14 teleskiguy  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:58:41pmreplyquote
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re: #6 jaunte

My eldest sister admitted to me she wept when she found out Hillary Clinton had
lost. She told me how worried she was for her daughter to grow up with this
demon man as POTUS.

Her daughter is starting college at the University of Colorado next week. Her
and I banter from time to time on the only social media she does which is
Instagram.

15 jaunte  Aug 16, 2024 • 7:59:34pmreplyquote
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re: #14 teleskiguy

I think I lost my appetite for about a month.

16 darthstar  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:01:33pmreplyquote
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Schools have single stall bathrooms for students, so there’s no need for tampons
in boys’ bathrooms - besides, they’d all be at the nurse asking to have the damn
things pulled out of their assholes…

threads.net

17 darthstar  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:02:14pmreplyquote
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re: #16 darthstar

Fuck…threads post.
CNN LINK: cnn.com

18 teleskiguy  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:04:13pmreplyquote
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J.D. Vance has spoken on just about every weird far right podcast imaginable.
The drip-drip of outrageous things he’s said on these podcasts is probably never
ending.

😈

19 jaunte  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:04:23pmreplyquote
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re: #16 darthstar

> Trump said at an August 9 campaign rally in Montana: “He ordered tampons to be
> put into boys’ bathrooms. Do we have any children here? Please close your
> ears.* He ordered tampons in boys’ bathrooms.” Trump said at his Thursday
> press conference: “He signed a bill that boys’ bathrooms — all boys’ bathrooms
> in Minnesota — will have tampons.”

*”I’ll be talking about nasty women stuff, it’s not for kids”

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re: #6 jaunte

> BREAKING!
> 
> [Embedded content]

That email definitely feels like a turning point in terms of openness,
relatability and reading the room. There’s been a lot said about the vibe shift
but one of the key elements is not only being open about how absolutely fucking
godawful Trump always has been and always will be. The fact that all he’s done
is poison every institution he’s ever touched and that it’s actively harmful to
let the institutional reputation, inertia and comity obscure that.

21 retired cynic  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:11:09pmreplyquote
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re: #15 jaunte

> I think I lost my appetite for about a month.

I was just sick. Couldn’t sleep. Had no idea how bad he was to get at first.
Just knew he was a malevolent clown who had no redeeming qualities at all.

22 darthstar  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:14:39pmreplyquote
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re: #1 darthstar

> Love that their handle is from the Enuma Elish…
> 
> [Embedded content]

I responded thusly:



And they responded to my response:



23 jaunte  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:16:52pmreplyquote
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re: #20 goddamnedfrank

I was watching something on youtube earlier, and one of his ads came on. Just
him, sitting behind a desk and bullshitting, the usual stuff about Joe Biden
getting cheated out of running, and Kamala got no votes to be in the position
she’s in. But the chilling bit was him telling his followers that they had to
win, No Matter What. As close as he can get to calling for violence without
saying it openly. I think he’s eventually going to go there.

24 Belafon  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:17:40pmreplyquote
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re: #20 goddamnedfrank

> That email definitely feels like a turning point in terms of openness,
> relatability and reading the room. There’s been a lot said about the vibe
> shift but one of the key elements is not only being open about how absolutely
> fucking godawful Trump always has been and always will be. The fact that all
> he’s done is poison every institution he’s ever touched and that it’s actively
> harmful to let the institutional reputation, inertia and comity obscure that.

As someone said in the replies, both Harris and Walz are relatable.

25 darthstar  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:17:47pmreplyquote
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re: #21 retired cynic

> I was just sick. Couldn’t sleep. Had no idea how bad he was to get at first.
> Just knew he was a malevolent clown who had no redeeming qualities at all.

I had a triple-hernia surgery the morning after the election. Told the
anesthesiologist before he put me under that it was okay if he lost me given the
election results. He laughed, nervously, and said he wouldn’t let that happen. I
told him I forgave him.

26 Jay C  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:20:42pmreplyquote
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re: #10 sizzzzlerz

Yeah: a LOT of questions about the Bonhomme Richard fire: but one issue I don’t
recall ever being raised was the fundamental fact of the ship being docked for
maintenance: with a reduced crew vs. on-duty, where there would be a lot more
sailors available to fight a shipboard blaze; and, presumably, where the onboard
firefighting systems would be active and (we hope) tested for operability.

And yes: just like with the Iowa turret explosion, the Navy managed to find some
lowly swabbie to try to pin the blame on. Though in the Bonhomme Richard case,
the guy got off (and alive)….

27 Semper Fi  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:25:01pmreplyquote
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re: #23 jaunte

> I was watching something on youtube earlier, and one of his ads came on. Just
> him, sitting behind a desk and bullshitting, the usual stuff about Joe Biden
> getting cheated out of running, and Kamala got no votes to be in the position
> she’s in. But the chilling bit was him telling his followers that they had to
> win, No Matter What. As close as he can get to calling for violence without
> saying it openly. I think he’s eventually going to go there.

Yes! and I fear for Kamala. Trump is evil.

28 Belafon  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:25:28pmreplyquote
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We made Walz’s hot dish tonight for dinner:


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Had we known about this when I was a kid, we probably would have had it a lot
here in Texas, except we would have probably done something like beef broth
instead of beer. Relatively cheep which is good when you have three teenagers to
feed.

29 ericblair  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:26:26pmreplyquote
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re: #21 retired cynic

> I was just sick. Couldn’t sleep. Had no idea how bad he was to get at first.
> Just knew he was a malevolent clown who had no redeeming qualities at all.

After the yam “won” I figured we had about two years before a nuclear war. I
guess he exceeded expectations.

30 prairiefire  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:32:49pmreplyquote
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Not just Dorito’s, but nacho cheese.

31 darthstar  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:37:51pmreplyquote
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re: #28 Belafon

> We made Walz’s hot dish tonight for dinner:
> 
> [Embedded content]
> 
> Had we known about this when I was a kid, we probably would have had it a lot
> here in Texas, except we would have probably done something like beef broth
> instead of beer. Relatively cheep which is good when you have three teenagers
> to feed.

It’s a hot dish, not a spicy hot dish.

32 darthstar  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:39:22pmreplyquote
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re: #28 Belafon

How was it?

33 darthstar  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:43:42pmreplyquote
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Watching Stephanie Ruhle and noticed James Carville is surrounded by his back
bar of liquor bottles and at the end of the segment Stephanie finally says, “I
think’ we’re all transfixed by your back bar staring a us”…

He’s got a decent tequila (Espolon) and some High West and JW Black Label (both
nearly empty).

34 prairiefire  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:50:49pmreplyquote
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re: #28 Belafon

I am not sure about the tater tots.

35 darthstar  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:51:07pmreplyquote
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Project 2025…fucking evil.



36 William Lewis  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:51:35pmreplyquote
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re: #29 ericblair

> After the yam “won” I figured we had about two years before a nuclear war. I
> guess he exceeded expectations.

Well, I joined the army in 1982 because I expected Ronnie RayGun to do that and
it would be more fun to die in Germany than in Wisconsin. So I have had lots of
extra time… 😉

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re: #34 prairiefire

> I am not sure about the tater tots.

Tater tots are the base ingredient for most hot dishes.

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39 jaunte  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:53:00pmreplyquote
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re: #28 Belafon

Is Hot Dish a form of Poutine, or vice versa?

40 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2024 • 8:53:24pmreplyquote
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It’s the amount of fat! I’d have to have a plate of fried on the side.

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re: #28 Belafon

> We made Walz’s hot dish tonight for dinner:
> 
> [Embedded content]
> 
> Had we known about this when I was a kid, we probably would have had it a lot
> her in Texas, except we would have probably done something like beef broth
> instead of beer. Relatively cheep which is good when you have three teenagers
> to feed.

It seems like it needs… more. Something likes peas ‘n carrots in all that
soup/gravy.

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re: #29 ericblair

> After the yam “won” I figured we had about two years before a nuclear war. I
> guess he exceeded expectations.

I remember that night too well. I remember an old lizard, The War TARDIS, being
really freaked about the polling on Election Night, and the other lizards
telling him not to panic.

Unfortunately, he was dead right.

I was totally devastated. I still think America got a bullet in the heart that
night, and it was self-inflicted. Too many of our own people wanted this.

They still do.

I’m living life as if we have four good months left, because I completely
believe that.

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re: #32 darthstar

> How was it?

Not bad. Not spicy, obviously, and you’ll never find it at a Michelin star
restaurant, but I liked it. But, then again, I don’t mind a taco in a bag
either.

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re: #43 Sherlock Hound

> I remember that night too well. I remember an old lizard, The War TARDIS,
> being really freaked about the polling on Election Night, and the other
> lizards telling him not to panic.
> 
> Unfortunately, he was dead right.
> 
> I was totally devastated. I still think America got a bullet in the heart that
> night, and it was self-inflicted. Too many of our own people wanted this.
> 
> They still do.
> 
> I’m living life as if we have four good months left, because I completely
> believe that.

Too many believed the hate against Hillary and “He won’t be that bad”.

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re: #34 prairiefire

> I am not sure about the tater tots.

It’s definitely more a comfort food than something Julia Child would have
prepared. The tater tots, being in the condensed soup, are more like potatoes in
consistency, kind of like potatoes on shepherd’s pie.

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re: #45 William Lewis

> Too many believed the hate against Hillary and “He won’t be that bad”.

and to be honest, he WAS THAT bad, but what was worse, were those he surrounded
himself with that allowed him to do what he did (I.e. Bill fucking Barr) and he
had a compliant House and Senate and thankfully was disorganized and inept that
they were more focused on looting the country than really going for broke.

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re: #37 darthstar

> Tater tots are the base ingredient for most hot dishes.

We’ll try the Hmong one at some point:







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re: #49 Belafon


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re: #49 Belafon

Marcel Teloma works for Never Back Down Inc.
factcheck.org

53 Belafon  Aug 16, 2024 • 9:31:01pmreplyquote
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The quote is from here: vfw.org

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re: #52 jaunte

> Marcel Teloma works for Never Back Down Inc.
> factcheck.org

I think the Republican party should dump all their money on California,

55 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2024 • 9:40:00pmreplyquote
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re: #25 darthstar

> I had a triple-hernia surgery the morning after the election. Told the
> anesthesiologist before he put me under that it was okay if he lost me given
> the election results. He laughed, nervously, and said he wouldn’t let that
> happen. I told him I forgave him.

At the watch party my county Democratic Party had at a restaurant in the county
seat, we were all just stunned.

I did get an uplift later when after I had hand surgery and I was coming out of
the anaesthesia, my wife informed me “while you were in surgery, Rush Limbaugh
died.”

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Reminds me of this song:

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> Why was I born?
> Sometimes I wish I didn’t know
> Been times when
> I wish that I had just never been
> Why did you have me?
> Or better yet why’d you leave?
> So to the people that could fuck
> But then abandoned me
> I’ll give to this world what you couldn’t give
> Love the unwanted, every child born discarded
> Add to the flock
> The rejects you dumped on
> I’ll never forget
> Life you disdain
> So to the parents that bore me this pain
> With all those things you left unfinished
> You never could love me
> I’m glad that you never did
> My parents that raised me
> Had plenty of that to give
> And for that
> I’ll love them forever with all my heart
> But to you
> Don’t let there be no mistake about it
> Fuck you, you cocksucker
> Fuck you, you whore
> I’ll live my life the opposite of what you are
> Love will be my rock
> The rock that I stand on
> I’ll never forget
> Life you disdain
> So to the parents that bore me this pain
> With all those things you left unfinished
> Don’t try to reach out to me
> Don’t try to call
> The boy that you created
> Is dead for all you fucking know
> You just pretend you’ve never heard or seen
> The name Lawrence Mathew Cardine

57 EPR-radar  Aug 16, 2024 • 9:55:21pmreplyquote
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re: #29 ericblair

> After the yam “won” I figured we had about two years before a nuclear war. I
> guess he exceeded expectations.

Trump is such a rancid piece of shit that it is his character flaws that prevent
some of the worst case outcomes. In particular, Trump is scared (probably
incorrectly) that he will get bad press if he starts a war, and even worse press
if it’s a nuclear war. So we should be thankful Trump is such a coward.

58 Captain Ron  Aug 16, 2024 • 9:58:06pmreplyquote
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re: #49 Belafon

LOL

59 EPR-radar  Aug 16, 2024 • 9:59:31pmreplyquote
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re: #58 Captain Ron

> LOL

Indeed. CA is one of the better-run states in the country precisely because the
GOP here is so pitiful that it has less than 1/3 in the state legislature
(thereby losing its ability to fuck shit up).

60 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Aug 16, 2024 • 10:03:11pmreplyquote
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re: #49 Belafon

> [Embedded content]

I love all these Election accounts that show no understanding of basic electoral
politics. One thing I will never get over is Trump actually tried claiming
legally that because of him being a rare Republican who won Florida and Ohio but
losing the election, it meant there was fraud when in reality it’s a simple
matter of mere electoral improbability which isn’t legal lol.

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62 William Lewis  Aug 16, 2024 • 10:09:40pmreplyquote
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re: #56 Belafon

I’m reminded of a friend of mine; when he’s feeling kind about his biological
mother he’ll call her “the wh*re who bore me”. It gets far worse from there.

63 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Aug 16, 2024 • 10:18:34pmreplyquote
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re: #45 William Lewis

> Too many believed the hate against Hillary and “He won’t be that bad”.

January 6 legit politically traumatized me. I wish I still had the paper but I
wrote an essay on The Election of 1800 when I was an undergrad in community
college and this was for a Revolutionary War era class I took. Anyhow the lesson
of 1800 is of course peaceful transfer of power and Trump ruined that for me. It
was honestly something I had immense civic pride in.

64 terraincognita  Aug 16, 2024 • 10:23:12pmreplyquote
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re: #49 Belafon

> [Embedded content]

And if my grandmother had wheels, she’d be a wagon.

And if Harris takes Florida while taking the swing states, the Dems wouldn’t
need California, 295-243…ad infinidum, ad nauseam.

65 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2024 • 10:33:01pmreplyquote
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The eyewall of Hurricane Ernesto is over Bermuda.

Bermuda Weather Service 250km Radar

Recorded at 1:55 am
Rain
Temp.: 25°C/77°F
Humidity: 100%
Wind: E 50G73 KT or 58G84 mph
UV Index: 0

66 Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 16, 2024 • 10:42:23pmreplyquote
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re: #38 cat-tikvah

Bibi will tank it.

67 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Aug 16, 2024 • 10:44:19pmreplyquote
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> BREAKING!
> 
> [Embedded content]

I drank a lot that night. Wasn’t hungover physically but was emotionally the
next day at work and I was working in a law firm as a paralegal at the time.
Thankfully the attorney I worked with was of a like mind as were my close family
and friends I could talk to about politics.

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> Bibi will tank it.

Bibi and Hamas — neither are interested in peace or the well-being of
Palestinians.

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re: #56 Belafon

> [Embedded content]
> 
> Reminds me of this song:
> 
> [Embedded content]

Her mother turned her and her three siblings over to the foster system rather
than seek help for her drug and alcohol addictions, signed them over to her
parents when they found out what she’d done, and then yelled and screamed at her
father because he refused to allow her around her kids while she was still an
addict and alcoholic. And the only reason that anybody outside of her family
gives a damn is because her daughter is now a celebrity and she wants a piece of
that action.

70 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2024 • 11:02:27pmreplyquote
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re: #63 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

> January 6 legit politically traumatized me. I wish I still had the paper but I
> wrote an essay on The Election of 1800 when I was an undergrad in community
> college and this was for a Revolutionary War era class I took. Anyhow the
> lesson of 1800 is of course peaceful transfer of power and Trump ruined that
> for me. It was honestly something I had immense civic pride in.

As I recall from my thin US History class in my senior year of high school,
there was real concern at the time that the transfer of power from Federalist
John Adams to Democratic-Republican Thomas Jefferson would result in violence or
a revolt. Not only did that not happen, it surprised many of the world’s nations
at the time.

71 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Aug 16, 2024 • 11:08:37pmreplyquote
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lre: #70 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

> As I recall from my thin US History class in my senior year of high school,
> there was real concern at the time that the transfer of power from Federalist
> John Adams to Democratic-Republican Thomas Jefferson would result in violence
> or a revolt. Not only did that not happen, it surprised many of the world’s
> nations at the time.

Right. There was no guarantee what would happen due to not just the ideological
differences but it had been such an ugly campaign too. I have a lot of
admiration for Adams as a statesman because of it. I finally read McCullough’s
John Adams earlier in the year,

72 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2024 • 11:10:50pmreplyquote
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Via Wikipedia on the Election of 1800:

> The campaign was bitter and characterized by slander and personal attacks on
> both sides. Federalists spread rumors that the Democratic-Republicans were
> radical atheists

Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose

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re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

> Via Wikipedia on the Election of 1800:
> 
> Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose

The politics may have been vicious but the losing candidate accepted his loss
and the Republic continued. It took the election of a traitor and an ignorant
coward to try to overthrow our government because he refused to accept his loss.

74 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2024 • 11:20:01pmreplyquote
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Extremely local breaking news:

My new telephone book came in the mail today. I checked: I’m in there. (That
means people can find me since my address is in there too.)

The white pages are sixteen pages for the Nebraska Panhandle and three for
Goshen County, Wyo. The REAL Yellow Pages (tm) are many more.

75 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Aug 16, 2024 • 11:28:23pmreplyquote
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Lre: #73 Hecuba’s daughter

> The politics may have been vicious but the losing candidate accepted his loss
> and the Republic continued. It took the election of a traitor and an ignorant
> coward to try to overthrow our government because he refused to accept his
> loss.

Exactly why 1/6 was traumatic for me. The lesson of 1800 is Adams put his ego
and it was an ego he had aside for the betterment of country. He was a
statesman. Trump is the antithesis of the word.

76 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2024 • 11:36:40pmreplyquote
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re: #73 Hecuba’s daughter

> The politics may have been vicious but the losing candidate accepted his loss
> and the Republic continued. It took the election of a traitor and an ignorant
> coward to try to overthrow our government because he refused to accept his
> loss.

Another citation from the Wikipedia article, a nice little racist statement from
George Washington:

> In 1798, George Washington had complained “that you could as soon scrub the
> blackamoor white, as to change the principles of a professed Democrat; and
> that he will leave nothing unattempted to overturn the Government of this
> Country”

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re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

> Extremely local breaking news:
> 
> My new telephone book came in the mail today. I checked: I’m in there. (That
> means people can find me since my address is in there too.)
> 
> The white pages are sixteen pages for the Nebraska Panhandle and three for
> Goshen County, Wyo. The REAL Yellow Pages (tm) are many more.

I can’t even remember how long its been since they quit delivering telephone
books around here.

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> BREAKING!
> 
> [Embedded content]

I tried to drink myself into oblivion on Election Night 2016. I did pass out. I
had a beaut of a hangover the next day.

Speaking of alcohol…



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79 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 17, 2024 • 12:17:49amreplyquote
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While it doesn’t mean much, it’s another breath of fresh air.

Democrats Handed Senate Boost as Jon Tester Five Points Ahead in New Poll
(Newsweek, August 16, 2024)

> Senator Jon Tester, a Democrat from Montana, has a 5-point lead over his
> Republican challenger Tim Sheehy in a crucial 2024 Senate election, a new poll
> shows.
> 
> A Napolitan News Service survey of 540 registered voters in Montana found that
> the incumbent was ahead of the Republican by 49 percent to 44 percent in what
> the polling group called the “most important Senate race” of the 2024
> elections.
> 
> The outcome of November’s Senate race in Montana, a state Donald Trump won by
> 16 points in 2020, could end up determining which party controls the upper
> chamber.
> 
> The Democrats control the Senate by a 51-49 seat margin, including four
> independent senators who caucus or align with the party.
> 
> With the GOP widely expected to flip the West Virginia seat held by outgoing
> independent Senator Joe Manchin—giving Republicans an estimated 50 seats—the
> results of the presidential election between Trump and Vice President Kamala
> Harris and the outcome of the Montana Senate race may be the deciding factors
> for how the next Congress operates.

(more)

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re: #78 mmmirele

> I tried to drink myself into oblivion on Election Night 2016. I did pass out.
> I had a beaut of hangover the next day.
> 
> Speaking of alcohol…
> 
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81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 17, 2024 • 12:23:17amreplyquote
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82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 17, 2024 • 12:32:36amreplyquote
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Bermuda Weather Service 100km Radar

Hurricane Ernesto’s eye is over the west half of the island, while the eastern
eyewall is over the east half.

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83 wrenchwench  Aug 17, 2024 • 12:42:20amreplyquote
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84 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 17, 2024 • 12:46:34amreplyquote
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86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2024 •
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re: #23 jaunte

> But the chilling bit was him telling his followers that they had to win, No
> Matter What. As close as he can get to calling for violence without saying it
> openly. I think he’s eventually going to go there.

He is calling on them to preserve “election integrity”. Which many of them are
going to interpret as going out to polling places armed (especially in
open-carry states) and preventing anyone who looks “illegal” from voting.

Also expect to see voting machines hijacked or sabotaged, especially in
“suspicious” districts.

And this has been the problem all along: chaos and disinformation work in favor
of the GOP

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re: #37 darthstar

> Tater tots are the base ingredient for most hot dishes.

or Ore-Ida frozen hash browns. That was our family festive cheesy hot dish: hash
browns, Velveeta, pour cream and pimentos baked.

88 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 17, 2024 • 1:13:03amreplyquote
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This is not long after Jack Smith delivered some papers to the judge in the
January 6 trial. I can’t help but wonder if they are related. It could also
explain why Smith asked for delay.

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91 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 17, 2024 • 1:21:45amreplyquote
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So it’s been a whole day. Perusing the news …

yup, another one busted.

CBS News, reporting from Southlake, Texas.

Gateway Church hit with new lawsuit alleging child sex abuse of youth group
member (August 16, 2024)

The girl who was assaulted filed the lawsuit in her own name.

> TARRANT COUNTY — The North Texas megachurch embroiled in controversy over its
> founder’s alleged child sex abuse is facing another lawsuit involving
> accusations of abuse by a youth group member.
> 
> Gateway Church recently settled a 2020 lawsuit alleging child sex abuse.
> 
> The lawsuit filed Wednesday in Tarrant County accuses a member of the Gateway
> Church youth group of sexually assaulting a 13-year-old girl repeatedly on
> church grounds. The lawsuit alleges the assaults began in 2016.
> 
> According to the lawsuit filed by Julia Long, who was 13 years old at the
> time, she regularly attended youth group meetings at The King’s University in
> Southlake with roughly 200 other members ranging in age from 11 years old to
> 18 years old. One of those members was then 17-year-old Gabriel Snyder,
> according to the lawsuit.

The alleged rapist used the Bible’s teachings to manipulate her, saying women
must submit to the demands of men.

> In late 2016, the lawsuit alleges Snyder began grooming Long during youth
> group meetings, using “biblical beliefs and teachings of … Gateway’s pastor
> and ministers” to convince her that it was God’s will she submit to him as a
> female.
> 
> The lawsuit claims Snyder sexually assaulted Long multiple times in December
> 2016, taking her “into the darkness outside The King’s University.”
> 
> Typically CBS News Texas would not identify sexual assault victims, but Long
> made the decision to have her story publicly known as part of her healing
> process.

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92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2024 •
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re: #42 allegro

> It seems like it needs… more. Something likes peas ‘n carrots in all that
> soup/gravy.

You eat a wedge of iceberg lettuce swimming in mayonnaise-based dressing

93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2024 •
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re: #43 Sherlock Hound

> I remember that night too well. I remember an old lizard, The War TARDIS,
> being really freaked about the polling on Election Night, and the other
> lizards telling him not to panic.
> 
> Unfortunately, he was dead right.
> 
> I was totally devastated. I still think America got a bullet in the heart that
> night, and it was self-inflicted. Too many of our own people wanted this.

Michael Moore warned us about it in summer of 2016 but I ignored him because he
was a bit of a gadfly and atention-seeker. But he was dead right about the Rust
Belt states: they gave DJT the EC majority that he needed despite losing the
popular vote by millions.

94 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2024 •
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> the Doro

This “Ur-chip” is simply a corn torilla

one of my first jobs at the Dash Inn Mexican restaurant in Tempe, AZ was to take
a big knife and cut piles of corn tortillas into six pieces to be deep-fried for
nachos.

95 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 17, 2024 • 1:51:33amreplyquote
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Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) signed a law in October of last year creating the crime of
“capital child sexual assault.” That law permits a prosecutor to seek the death
penalty for rape of a child under the age of twelve.

It seems likely if that is applied, a person would appeal to the Supreme Court.
In the past, the Supreme Court ruled a Louisiana law permitting the death
penalty for rape was unconstitutional. The reasoning was if the death penalty
was on the table for rape, the rapist would kill the victim (and any other
witnesses). On top of that, only eight jurors are required to reach that verdict
under the Florida law.

Oh look, it looks like a Florida pastor is going to be the person who tests that
law.

Florida Pastor May Receive Death Penalty for Child Abuse (Ministry Watch, August
13, 2024)

“The minister was outspoken against sexual abuse reforms in the SBC” (of course
he was)

> Jonathan Elwing, 43, a pastor from Palmetto, Florida, is facing a minimum
> sentence of life without parole over harrowing child rape allegations.
> However, due to an updated Florida death penalty law, he could receive capital
> punishment if convicted.
> 
> Jonathan Elwing / Photo via Facebook
> 
> According to the Manatee County Sheriff’s Office, police initially charged the
> father of four with four counts of possessing child pornography for using
> cryptocurrency to buy explicit images of children from the dark web.
> Detectives began investigating Elwing after a crypto-currency company tipped
> them about the purchases.
> 
> Days later, police conducted a search warrant at Elwing’s home and the church
> where he pastored. On his cell phone, they found explicit images of him
> sexually battering a 2-year-old. The images included his face and made obvious
> the identity and age of the child, court records show.

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96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2024 •
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> Indeed. CA is one of the better-run states in the country precisely because
> the GOP here is so pitiful that it has less than 1/3 in the state legislature
> (thereby losing its ability to fuck shit up).

California still has more registered Republicans than any other state in the
union.

97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2024 •
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re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

> Extremely local breaking news:
> 
> My new telephone book came in the mail today. I checked: I’m in there. (That
> means people can find me since my address is in there too.)

I cannot remember the last time I looked up an address or number in the Phone
Book…

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This is one reason I started listening to the Charismatic Voice, several years
ago. She has such a nice way of breaking down the complexities of a song so you
can understand why it was so amazing.

This is the first time she has ever listened to a song by the Doors and her
community suggested this one. Nice. What a song to start with, probably one of
the most complex bits of music from the 60s. And it is almost 60 years old.

Watching her first time exposure to this song evoked all the emotional aspects I
am sure they were going after. And she understood, likely even deeper than they
did, just why it is the lyrics and actual singing technique make it a classic.

99 Decatur Deb  Aug 17, 2024 • 1:55:48amreplyquote
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Wife and I attended an election night party in 2016. It was mainly Alabama Dems
who had worked across the border for HRC. When Florida was announced the hostess
handed everyone back their bottles and a loaf of her home-made bread, and we
drove home.

100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2024 •
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I really thought Josh “Fist Bump” Hawley had a promising future ahead of him in
the GOP.

Until he became Josh “Chicken Run” Hawley

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re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

> Oh look, it looks like a Florida pastor is going to be the person who tests
> that law.

Where is he on the paper bag scale?

102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2024 •
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re: #90 No Malarkey!

> Tim Walz told Kamala Harris he eats “white guy tacos” and now all the worst
> white dudes you know are crying that they’re victims of Tim Crow.

There is a bit of a distinction between “White people don’t like spicy food!”
and “Blacks are culturally inferior and genetically inclined to violence and
crime!”

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re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

> California still has more registered Republicans than any other state in the
> union.

A testament to just how much larger California is than any other state in the
union.

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> A testament to just how much larger California is than any other state in the
> union.

The state that gave us Nixon and Reagan

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Alabama is a lab rat on Project 2025 highway to theocracy
al.com

We do get subversive opinions. Good cartoon.

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> Alabama is a lab rat on Project 2025 highway to theocracy
> al.com
> 
> We do get subversive opinions. Good cartoon.

GOP State Legislatures are the Meth Labs of Democracy.

108 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 17, 2024 • 2:27:57amreplyquote
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> Where is he on the paper bag scale?

Extremely white, very bald, forties, Duck Dynasty beard.

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> There is a bit of a distinction between “White people don’t like spicy food!”
> and “Blacks are culturally inferior and genetically inclined to violence and
> crime!”

“European” once again being translated as “White” so that Ben’s poor fee-fees
might be soothed.

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> Extremely white, very bald, forties, Duck Dynasty beard.

Thy cultivate that look: a combination of Biblical Patriarch, Confederate
Colonel and member of ZZ Top.

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> “European” once again being translated as “White” so that Ben’s poor fee-fees
> might be soothed.

Europeans fought wars over the spice trade, not just because they were fond of
spices but because they were necessary to preserve food and make it palatable.

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“HELP! HELP! I’M BEING OPPRESSED!! COME SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE
SYSTEM!!” except it’s far less funny.

113 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 17, 2024 • 2:34:02amreplyquote
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> Alabama is a lab rat on Project 2025 highway to theocracy
> al.com
> 
> We do get subversive opinions. Good cartoon.

The last line in the article:

> Same game plan as the Taliban.

I wish journalists would quit comparing Christians to the Taliban. Christians
have a two thousand-year history of this stuff. They didn’t pick it up from or
copy the Taliban. Given a chance, Christians would slaughter the Taliban as well
(they’re competition).

They want secular governance out of the way not so much to slaughter heathens
and heretics (though we’re definitely on the dance card). They want it out of
the way so they can slaughter each other.

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re: #113 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Theocrats are theocrats whether they be Fundamentalist Christian, Orthodox
Christian, Islamist, HIndu Nationalist, etc.

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A religious discrimination case against Dave Ramsey can proceed, federal court
rules (Deseret News, August 12, 2024

TL;DR: A video editor for Dave Ramsey’s Christian investment company was fired
because he refused to follow Ramsey’s requirement of no mask/no getting vaccines
during the pandemic because Ramsey claimed they are un-Christian.

The editor sued, claiming he followed the Golden Rule and CDC guidance regarding
Covid-19. The district court found in favour of Ramsey, alleging “reverse
religious discrimination.”

The EEOC weighed in on the appeal, arguing there’s no such thing as “reverse
religious discrimination” and that Ramsey was religiously-discriminating against
his former video editor.

> Christian celebrity Dave Ramsey and his company, Ramsey Solutions, remain
> engaged in a religious discrimination lawsuit brought by a former employee
> after a federal appeals court ruled last week that the case should not have
> been dismissed by a lower-court judge.
> 
> The lawsuit is from Brad Amos, who lost his job as a video editor during the
> height of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to Religion News Service.
> 
> Amos alleges that he was unlawfully punished for his religious beliefs about
> safety precautions, including mask-wearing and vaccination.
> 
> If you followed the faith-related legal drama that dominated headlines in
> 2020, you might be surprised to hear that Amos supports masking and social
> distancing.
> 
> He’s on the opposite side of those issues as the people of faith who brought
> most pandemic-related religious discrimination lawsuits, which often centered
> on faith-based opposition to vaccine mandates, as the Deseret News previously
> reported.

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re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

> Europeans fought wars over the spice trade, not just because they were fond of
> spices but because they were necessary to preserve food and make it palatable.

Spices don’t preserve food, salt and other common locally sourced chemicals like
vinegar (pickling) do. Spices disguise the taste of spoiling food a bit but not
enough to make them essential. They were a rich man’s hobby, not a dietary
mainstay of 98% of the population.

The spice trade was important because spices sold for a lot of money per
pound/kilogram and ships of the medieval period were small. A ton of spices
transported from Far Cathay to the ports of Europe on a two hundred ton ship
resulted in a lot of profit for the shipowners.

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re: #108 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

> Extremely white, very bald, forties, Duck Dynasty beard.

Jesus has forgiven him, why shouldn’t Florida?

118 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 17, 2024 • 2:53:09amreplyquote
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> Jesus has forgiven him, why shouldn’t Florida?

They probably will (Christian pastor “get out of jail free” card).

119 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 17, 2024 • 2:55:43amreplyquote
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re: #115 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Dave Ramsey is at the centre of another lawsuit.

A woman alleges that when she became pregnant, she told her supervisor. Ramsey
fired her.

Ramsey claims he didn’t fire her for being pregnant. He says he fired her for
having sex whilst unmarried.

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re: #119 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

> Dave Ramsey is at the centre of another lawsuit.
> 
> A woman alleges that when she became pregnant, she told her supervisor. Ramsey
> fired her.
> 
> Ramsey claims he didn’t fire her for being pregnant. He says he fired her for
> having sex whilst unmarried.

Clearly a violation of company policy, which is Biblical.

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*sigh*

It is 2024, digital maps have been a thing for decades now, yet I still get
people who either call or show up and act shocked that we’re nowhere near the
Oceanfront. A couple weeks ago, we actually had two families check out early
because they wanted to find hotels within walking distance of the beach.

And before anyone says it, this is not some tech-savvy Millennial moaning that
grandpa needs to get with the times. Most websites this hotel is listed on have
maps showing our location and our address can be plugged into the search engine
of your choice to find it on a map. Unless you truly are thumbing through a copy
of the yellow pages, odds are you found us the same way you can find out where
we’re located.

123 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Aug 17, 2024 • 3:52:59amreplyquote
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It’s a birb.
Wordle 1,155 3/6


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re: #122 Targetpractice

There was an advert for a travel agency on British TV a long time back. The
tourists turn up at a back-street hotel that was advertised as a “stone’s throw
from the beach” and complain about being misled. The manager of the hotel takes
them to the roof where there’s a trebuchet. He pulls the lever, the rock goes
flying off and a few seconds later a distant splash is heard.

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Bermuda Weather Service 250km Radar

Hurricane Ernesto’s eye is moving off the north side of Bermuda. The south side
of the eyewall is over the island.

Environment Canada Hurricane Tracking Chart

Hurricane Ernesto is predicted to pass close by (or over) the Avalon Peninsula
of Newfoundland.

> BULLETIN
> Hurricane Ernesto Advisory Number 23
> NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL052024
> 500 AM AST Sat Aug 17 2024
> 
> …ERNESTO MAKES LANDFALL ON BERMUDA…
> …STRONG WINDS, DANGEROUS STORM SURGE, AND LIFE-THREATENING
> FLOODING EXPECTED TO CONTINUE ON BERMUDA TODAY…
> 
> SUMMARY OF 500 AM AST…0900 UTC…INFORMATION
> ———————————————————————
> LOCATION…32.3N 64.8W
> ABOUT 0 MI…0 KM N OF BERMUDA
> MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…85 MPH…140 KM/H
> PRESENT MOVEMENT…NNE OR 20 DEGREES AT 9 MPH…15 KM/H
> MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…972 MB…28.71 INCHES

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I’m an idiot.

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128 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Aug 17, 2024 • 4:36:43amreplyquote
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re: #127 Nerdy Fish

You’re consistently get Birbs. I doubt idiocy had anything to do with today’s
answer

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re: #128 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

> You’re consistently get Birbs. I doubt idiocy had anything to do with today’s
> answer

Well, I’ll admit I was very confused after guess 3 wasn’t the word. It took me a
good 2 minutes before I realized the obvious.

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Good morning

so were looking at either the first woman president or the first convicted felon
president.
why is this even close?

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> Good morning
> 
> so were looking at either the first woman president or the first convicted
> felon president.
> why is this even close?

Because millions of people have deluded themselves into an alternate reality,
and deprogramming them is way more work than programming them was.

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External imageCaturdays with Bitsy

Good morning!

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Meanwhile this from the same people who tell us that Reagan was great because of
his optimism. Shapiro’s just bitter because he’s got no joy in his life and
instead of spending time with his family he goes around debating college kids
half his age. And he’s not a practicing attorney because he’s nowhere near as
intelligent as he thinks he is.

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re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

> Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) signed a law in October of last year creating the crime
> of “capital child sexual assault.” That law permits a prosecutor to seek the
> death penalty for rape of a child under the age of twelve.
> 
> It seems likely if that is applied, a person would appeal to the Supreme
> Court. In the past, the Supreme Court ruled a Louisiana law permitting the
> death penalty for rape was unconstitutional. The reasoning was if the death
> penalty was on the table for rape, the rapist would kill the victim (and any
> other witnesses). On top of that, only eight jurors are required to reach that
> verdict under the Florida law.
> 
> Oh look, it looks like a Florida pastor is going to be the person who tests
> that law.
> 
> Florida Pastor May Receive Death Penalty for Child Abuse (Ministry Watch,
> August 13, 2024)
> 
> “The minister was outspoken against sexual abuse reforms in the SBC” (of
> course he was)
> 
> (more)

I feel a giant NOT LIKE THAT coming.

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> For your daily “the NYT is shit” entry:
> 
> [Embedded content]

its much more fundamental than that
First, Shapiro has agency. Part of the decision was his.
he and Harris had differing ideas on the role of VP in *her* admin.
(He was thinking more co-presidents)
*he* wasn’t sure it would be a great fit

I don’t think vouchers or religion made a whole lot of difference if you can’t
get past will we play nice together and do we want the same things (ie …who’s
the boss??)

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Something Harris said yesterday.


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That she knows this is going to be huge for the presidency.

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> Local GOP Official on potentially being removed for supporting Harris: I
> didn’t commit 34 felonies. I haven’t disrespected our veterans and I didn’t
> drag our country through one of the darkest days in American history. If you
> want to kick me out for that, that’s fine with me pic.twitter.com/tCWqww0R3x
> 
> — Acyn (@Acyn) August 16, 2024

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142 Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 17, 2024 • 6:33:31amreplyquote
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re: #123 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

> It’s a birb.
> Wordle 1,155 3/6
> 
> [Embedded content]

Quad for me. Coulda been 5 now that I think about it so…a happy 4 it is!

Click to Reveal

Wordle 1,155 4/6

⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛🟨⬛🟨🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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re: #127 Nerdy Fish

> I’m an idiot.
> 
> [Embedded content]

Not an idiot, just unlucky today.

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re: #140 Dangerman

> [Embedded content]

Having moral standards and applying them to fellow Republicans is a disqualifier
in the GOP these days.

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re: #144 No Malarkey!

> Having moral standards and applying them to fellow Republicans is a
> disqualifier in the GOP these days.

I can understand, in ordinary times, getting censured or kicked out of the party
for supporting the opposition. If both sides are otherwise sane and rational and
differ only over policy, then it makes sense that you should show some party
loyalty. This is not ordinary times. This is supporting a convicted felon,
adjudicated rapist, boss of a multi-billion-dollar criminal empire and a
would-be dictator, versus supporting democracy and the rule of law. It should
not be a close call.

146 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 17, 2024 • 6:42:38amreplyquote
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Better than I usually do:

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..

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I’m just saying, if you can play the b minor segovia scale clean, up and down,
on a classical guitar where the top octave has to be played with your left hand
walking a tight rope around the heel of the guitar, and do it at speed, you’ve
done something to be proud of.

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re: #141 darthstar

Holy shit. At that police gathering he cited ‘Gangs of New York’…now I’m getting
my Irish up.

149 Nerdy Fish  Aug 17, 2024 • 6:50:52amreplyquote
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re: #148 darthstar

> Holy shit. At that police gathering he cited ‘Gangs of New York’…now I’m
> getting my Irish up.

If there’s any groups of people I’d think it would be ill-advised to rile up,
it’s the Irish, the Italians, and the Germans. In addition to being a sizable
chunk of the white ancestry in this country, all three of them are rather well
known for short tempers and long grudges. I don’t think they thought this one
through the whole way. (But that’s pretty typical for Republicans these days.)

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152 darthstar  Aug 17, 2024 • 7:03:27amreplyquote
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Note, if someone is questioning Ukraine aid this fall there’s a good chance
they’re backed by Russia. Hang that shit over their heads.



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re: #123 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

> It’s a birb.
> Wordle 1,155 3/6
> 
> [Embedded content]

Likewise.
Wordle 1,155 3/6

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155 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Aug 17, 2024 •
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re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Somebody doing the right thing:

> According to the Manatee County Sheriff’s Office, police initially charged the
> father of four with four counts of possessing child pornography for using
> cryptocurrency to buy explicit images of children from the dark web.
> Detectives began investigating Elwing after a crypto-currency company tipped
> them about the purchases.

156 Unabogie  Aug 17, 2024 • 7:18:58amreplyquote
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re: #155 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

> Somebody doing the right thing:

Well this is quite the pickle. Now the reasons for using cryptocurrency are down
to just the Saudis bribing Trump.

Seems unsustainable!!!

157 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Aug 17, 2024 •
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Pedophiles have few friends. Drug smugglers, gun runners, and free lance
scammers of every description throw up their hands and say “Oh fuck no! Call the
cops!” when they are confronted with an opportunity to do business with pedos.
Religious institutions are the exception, a stubbornly consistent refuge and
breeding ground for the most despised criminals in human history.

158 Nerdy Fish  Aug 17, 2024 • 7:23:53amreplyquote
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re: #155 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

> Somebody doing the right thing:

It really grinds my gears how popular it is to give more power to the State to
execute people. There are far too many false positives based on prosecutorial
misconduct, inadequate defense, undue deference to police (who lie all the
time), or just a general attitude of contempt towards those who are alleged to
have committed serious crimes for me to be comfortable handing that same system
a blank check to kill those it finds guilty.

159 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 17, 2024 • 7:24:04amreplyquote
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For your Saturday morning entertainment, some gentle one-liners from MoTW:

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..

Colin Delaney in particular is good at one liners.

160 sizzzzlerz  Aug 17, 2024 • 7:32:28amreplyquote
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re: #154 darthstar

> [Embedded content]

Henry Ford was also a virulent racist and antisemitic his entire life.

Hey! Just like Elon!

161 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Aug 17, 2024 •
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re: #158 Nerdy Fish

> It really grinds my gears how popular it is to give more power to the State to
> execute people. There are far too many false positives based on prosecutorial
> misconduct, inadequate defense, undue deference to police (who lie all the
> time), or just a general attitude of contempt towards those who are alleged to
> have committed serious crimes for me to be comfortable handing that same
> system a blank check to kill those it finds guilty.

Actually cheering an expansion of the death penalty shows just how far out of
touch with reality the MAGA masses are. It’s as though the DNA-based mass
exoneration of death row inmates never happened. It is one of the greatest
scandals in modern times, but the corrupt, dysfunctional system continues to
grind away, business as usual.

162 Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 17, 2024 • 7:39:07amreplyquote
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re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

> The state that gave us Nixon and Reagan

And Hoover.

163 Unabogie  Aug 17, 2024 • 7:41:26amreplyquote
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re: #161 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

> Actually cheering an expansion of the death penalty shows just how far out of
> touch with reality the MAGA masses are. It’s as though the DNA-based mass
> exoneration of death row inmates never happened. It is one of the greatest
> scandals in modern times, but the corrupt, dysfunctional system continues to
> grind away, business as usual.

Well, their God Emperor himself once demanded that 5 innocent teenagers be
executed, and continued to hold that view after it was conclusively proven that
they had done nothing wrong except embarrass him a little for being a racist
moron.

164 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Aug 17, 2024 • 7:44:59amreplyquote
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”re: #154 darthstar

> [Embedded content]

Glad I’m not the only one who sees the late Ford analogies.

165 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Aug 17, 2024 •
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Father-son pilot duo demo World War II bomber jet ahead of Pikes Peak Regional
Airshow

PBY, P-47, B-25…..
…….And a mighty roar arose like thunder across the land, as pedants great and
small howled “THOSE ARE NOT JETS!”

166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2024 •
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re: #124 Nojay UK

> There was an advert for a travel agency on British TV a long time back. The
> tourists turn up at a back-street hotel that was advertised as a “stone’s
> throw from the beach” and complain about being misled. The manager of the
> hotel takes them to the roof where there’s a trebuchet. He pulls the lever,
> the rock goes flying off and a few seconds later a distant splash is heard.

If you climb up to the very attic of my house and look out the hatch, you can
glimpse a bit of the Rhine: I can list this house as “river view”.

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re: #167 darthstar

> Apparently Elon Musk sent Kadyrov a CyberTruck

Maybe Musk is on our side after all.

169 darthstar  Aug 17, 2024 • 7:52:29amreplyquote
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re: #167 darthstar

It will never see battle, which is too bad. Seeing this thing get hit by an RPG
would be kind of cool.


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re: #169 darthstar

> It will never see battle, which is too bad. Seeing this thing get hit by an
> RPG would be kind of cool.
> 
> [Embedded content]

Why wait for “battle”?
It’s probably just as likely to go up in flames in “civilian” use….

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re: #168 Decatur Deb

> Maybe Musk is on our side after all.

Kadyrov doesn’t appear to be very close to the front.

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re: #169 darthstar

> It will never see battle, which is too bad. Seeing this thing get hit by an
> RPG would be kind of cool.
> 
> [Embedded content]

It would be spectacular. Can the Mythbusters get back together to do one for us?
Pretty please?

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re: #158 Nerdy Fish

> It really grinds my gears how popular it is to give more power to the State to
> execute people. There are far too many false positives based on prosecutorial
> misconduct, inadequate defense, undue deference to police (who lie all the
> time), or just a general attitude of contempt towards those who are alleged to
> have committed serious crimes for me to be comfortable handing that same
> system a blank check to kill those it finds guilty.

Putting a pedo in the general lockup is tantamount to a death by shiv sentence.

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re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

> Putting a pedo in the general lockup is tantamount to a death by shiv
> sentence.

Which is another rant for another day. The conditions in American prisons are
despicable, and a large part of it is driven by the quiet acceptance of “prison
culture” where rape and murder of inmates convicted of “worse” crimes is ignored
or even encouraged.

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re: #174 Nerdy Fish

> Which is another rant for another day. The conditions in American prisons are
> despicable, and a large part of it is driven by the quiet acceptance of
> “prison culture” where rape and murder of inmates convicted of “worse” crimes
> is ignored or even encouraged.

Add in how many prisons are “contracted out” to private corporations whose sole
purpose is to maximize profits and pay the investors big dividend checks. And
there is that incentive to arrest and jail as many people as possible.

FUCK WALL STREET. GET WALL STREET OUT OF THE PRISON BUSINESS.

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Faux Snooze:
“That’s some old dried out shit, but desperate times call for desperate
measures. Throw it at the wall and see if it sticks anyway.”

Former White House economist warns Harris’ agenda could ‘shut down’ the entire
US economy

> A former White House economist is sounding the alarm on Vice President Kamala
> Harris’ economic agenda after former President Trump warned the U.S. would
> suffer a “1929-style depression” under a Harris presidency.
> 
> “My guess is that a lot of the things she said in the past about what she
> really wants to do, like the Green New Deal, for example… getting
> carbon-neutral by 2030 - all that kind of stuff would cause a deep recession
> toward carbon,” Kevin Hassett told “The Big Money Show” Thursday.

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re: #175 Joe Bacon ✅

> Add in how many prisons are “contracted out” to private corporations whose
> sole purpose is to maximize profits and pay the investors big dividend checks.
> And there is that incentive to arrest and jail as many people as possible.
> 
> FUCK WALL STREET. GET WALL STREET OUT OF THE PRISON BUSINESS.

Also another rant for another day. The fact that I have, like, five or six rants
queued up for our “justice” system should be telling.

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re: #176 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

> Faux Snooze:
> “That’s some old dried out shit, but desperate times call for desperate
> measures. Throw it at the wall and see if it sticks anyway.”
> 
> Former White House economist warns Harris’ agenda could ‘shut down’ the entire
> US economy

“A deep recession towards carbon”

Uh, carbon isn’t the economy. Depressing the output of carbon is something we
should all want because of survival instinct.

179 darthstar  Aug 17, 2024 • 8:01:53amreplyquote
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Duplicate post, so here’s a drawing instead.
(~);-}

180 darthstar  Aug 17, 2024 • 8:02:57amreplyquote
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Crap…still had the previous link in my memory…wouldn’t have rendered
anyway…screenshot instead.



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re: #178 Unabogie

> “A deep recession towards carbon”
> 
> Uh, carbon isn’t the economy. Depressing the output of carbon is something we
> should all want because of survival instinct.

I don’t even understand what the phrase means. “A deep recession towards
carbon”? Like, what? Are you telling us your oil baron buddies are going to
trigger a recession if they don’t get their way? I wouldn’t trust a Faux News
“economist” if he told me the dollar was worth $1 USD.

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re: #161 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

> Actually cheering an expansion of the death penalty shows just how far out of
> touch with reality the MAGA masses are. It’s as though the DNA-based mass
> exoneration of death row inmates never happened. It is one of the greatest
> scandals in modern times, but the corrupt, dysfunctional system continues to
> grind away, business as usual.

Oh, I think they’re doubling down on the death penalty precisely because means
of exoneration have expanded.

Their whole theory of culpability involves collective guilt among inferior kinds
of people and an entitlement to cut a bloody swath through anything that
frightens them. Justice is whatever makes them feel in charge, and pour
encourager les autres is a feature not a bug. The same people don’t see
brutalization of prisoners by guards or other prisoners as a net negative
because “convict” is an immutable type…unless it’s someone they know or
admire…and brutality is just the way things are done.

As we’ve seen with police murdering people, they’re more comfortable finding a
reason the dead person was guilty enough than admitting that their desire for
cathartic violence is self-indulgence.

“The guilty must be executed” is forever contextualized by this.

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re: #180 darthstar

> Crap…still had the previous link in my memory…wouldn’t have rendered
> anyway…screenshot instead.
> 
> [Embedded content]

Go right ahead Comer Pyle. And we can count on Gym Shorts to also “investigate”
Tim as well.

184 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 17, 2024 • 8:04:36amreplyquote
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re: #180 darthstar

They’re in desperation mode now.

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re: #180 darthstar

> Crap…still had the previous link in my memory…wouldn’t have rendered
> anyway…screenshot instead.
> 
> [Embedded content]

It’s been almost 30 years, but sure, it’s only an emergency to be investigated
right now, just like Kamala and her supposed inaction at the border. Talk about
the weaponization of the government for political purposes.

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re: #180 darthstar

> Crap…still had the previous link in my memory…wouldn’t have rendered
> anyway…screenshot instead.
> 
> [Embedded content]

Thirty years ago when you were making maybe $32K a year you took a group of
students…to China???

Mrs Fetters took our French class to France. I didn’t go. Wish I had.

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re: #184 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

> They’re in desperation mode now.

LMAO when Comer Pyle investigates how Tim won that Congressional cooking
contest.

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and this is part of the genius of “shortening” the campaign: the whole point of
these investigations and hearings are just to get the person’s name in the news
associated with the “scandal” they are being investigated for: Benghazi, Laptop,
Butter e-mails, etc.

There is not really enough time to get the ball rolling here.

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re: #185 Nerdy Fish

> It’s been almost 30 years, but sure, it’s only an emergency to be investigated
> right now, just like Kamala and her supposed inaction at the border. Talk
> about the weaponization of the government for political purposes.

Bring in the students, now in their mid 40s, to talk about their experience in
China with Mr. Walz. Should make for some interesting TV coverage.
“OMG he gave me the experience of a lifetime! I decided to study history and now
I’m a successful archaeologist.”

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re: #189 darthstar

> Bring in the students, now in their mid 40s, to talk about their experience in
> China with Mr. Walz. Should make for some interesting TV coverage.
> “OMG he gave me the experience of a lifetime! I decided to study history and
> now I’m a successful archaeologist.”

“Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist Party of China?”
“…I’m a fucken American, man. Why would I be a member of any Communist Party?”

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for those keeping score…. just some more data from the “border”

blogforarizona.net

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re: #191 piratedan

> for those keeping score…. just some more data from the “border”
> 
> blogforarizona.net

I heard the other day Abbott hasn’t been able to fill a bus with migrants to
send to a northern city since June.

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re: #191 piratedan

> for those keeping score…. just some more data from the “border”
> 
> blogforarizona.net

Really looking forward to Harris having those numbers under her belt in the
debate when Trump tries to attack her as a ‘failed border czar’…

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re: #192 darthstar

> I heard the other day Abbott hasn’t been able to fill a bus with migrants to
> send to a northern city since June.

maybe they could send him some…

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re: #180 darthstar

> Crap…still had the previous link in my memory…wouldn’t have rendered
> anyway…screenshot instead.
> 
> [Embedded content]

Congressional investigations into what a state governor did when was a school
teacher in the 1990s, that was legal and admirable?

Also, something tells me we wouldn’t see the same outrage for GOPers who made
that trek to Russia on July 4th a few years ago.

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re: #191 piratedan

> for those keeping score…. just some more data from the “border”
> 
> blogforarizona.net

That’s a great summary. Thank you!

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re: #193 darthstar

> Really looking forward to Harris having those numbers under her belt in the
> debate when Trump tries to attack her as a ‘failed border czar’…

And the statistics are from CBP. That’s gotta hurt. 😂😂😂

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re: #195 Unabogie

> Congressional investigations into what a state governor did when was a school
> teacher in the 1990s, that was legal and admirable?
> 
> Also, something tells me we wouldn’t see the same outrage for GOPers who made
> that trek to Russia on July 4th a few years ago.

Notice how Comer Pyle and Gym Shorts are absolutely silent about their 8 pals
who spent that July 4th being briefed by Putin.

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> “We’re going to be friendly to Iran” Trump says AFTER saying he was told Iran
> hacked him. Allow me to translate: Trump is scared shitless Iran has something
> on him AND has changed his position to be soft on them. That my friends is a
> man who is compromised. https://t.co/05EYdCAfTL
> 
> — Rep. Eric Swalwell (@RepSwalwell) August 17, 2024

Here’s another thing that got a mysteriously minute amount of attention from the
press. Might be worth it for them to rummage through the leaked Trump campaign
documents for some actual news, instead of suddenly developing a reluctance to
publish covertly acquired materials.

The thumb on the scale is now a cannonball.

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re: #199 ericblair

Pinchy Sulzberger and his Presstittute Posse at the New York Times will do
anything to put Trump back in the Oval Office.

Why they will even suppress a bunch of hacked e-mails from GOP servers to serve
their master UNLIKE what those motherfathers did to Hillary when ASSange leaked
Democratic e-mails in 2016.

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Sorry it’s the NYT but…







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Note how the Times isn’t looking at Ohio where I got a very sneaking suspicion
that it’s in play based on the abortion vote last year.

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> Henry Ford was also a virulent racist and antisemitic his entire life.
> 
> Hey! Just like Elon!

My grandfather worked for Henry Ford, and was anti-semantic like Henry Ford.

My mother (his daughter) never understood why her father was anti-semantic.

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re: #203 Joe Bacon ✅

> Note how the Times isn’t looking at Ohio where I got a very sneaking suspicion
> that it’s in play based on the abortion vote last year.

I was just about to point that out, but this is a ‘sun belt’ story. Still, PA,
OH, MI, WI are all trending toward Harris as well, with MI and WI being above
the MOE. Wait until after the convention and Labor Day when people start paying
attention. We’re going to see some actual movement I suspect.

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re: #203 Joe Bacon ✅

> Note how the Times isn’t looking at Ohio where I got a very sneaking suspicion
> that it’s in play based on the abortion vote last year.

Plus I read that even Ohio dislikes Vance. So, agreed.

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re: #204 BeenHereAwhile

> My grandfather worked for Henry Ford, and was anti-semantic like Henry Ford.
> 
> My mother (his daughter) never understood why her father was anti-semantic.

Trump is anti-semantic. Ford was anti-semitic.

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re: #205 darthstar

Of course Pinchy and his Presstitute Posse are ignoring Ohio…except when Peter
Baker goes to that same rural Ohio diner to talk to the same 12 Republicans to
hear what Real Murkins are saying.

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re: #180 darthstar

LOL.

I’ve taught English to Czech Army officers - and even the Czech Minister of
Defense back in 2002-2003.

OOOOH, SCARY!! 😄

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re: #209 Belafon

> [Embedded content]

Holy what the ACTUAL FUCK? It’s the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Fucking
Twenty-Four, who actually listens to those two useless has-beens anymore?!

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re: #204 BeenHereAwhile

> My grandfather worked for Henry Ford, and was anti-semantic like Henry Ford.
> 
> My mother (his daughter) never understood why her father was anti-semantic.

My Jewish father was pretty (silently) racist. I had no idea until I became
friends with a black gal in college. It’s not like he was overly racist but his
words at that time made it obvious.

I was shocked. Especially after all the kike crap he experienced in his younger
life. I chalked it up to age. Thankfully it never infected me.

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re: #184 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

> They’re in desperation mode now.

SRSLY: they really think that, this far into a campaign, that trying to Benghazi
Tim Walz over bullshit like this is going to have ANY effect outside of the
usual outcomes? i. e.,
1. Make Tim Walz look even more admirable.
2. Make themselves look even more petty, partisan and stupid.
3. Provide their Dem opponents (isn’t Jasmine Crockett on this Committee?) free
publicity to look even better.

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re: #210 Dr Lizardo

Gig is up.

I went on one of those students trips to China, and that’s clearly why I keep
talking about capital.

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Benghazi had the benefit of being a recent event. This is more like
swiftboating, but there’s even less “there” there.

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> Trump is anti-semantic. Ford was anti-semitic.

I went to Trump’s page to see what anti-semanticism he’s spewing now but it
appears to be unique and well thought out personalized endorsements time…in
other words, copy/pasty…



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> Holy what the ACTUAL FUCK? It’s the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Fucking
> Twenty-Four, who actually listens to those two useless has-beens anymore?!

I’m wondering when we’ll cross the point where they will start actively
sabotaging her - beying the usual tut tutting - just so they can argue that she
lost because she didn’t listen.

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> [Embedded content]

James Carville gets on my last nerve. He is the biggest PANIC AND DOOM merchant
out there. And he can’t even get his emails straight—they always start with my
name in the opener and then have a different name in the 3rd graph. And I still
don’t understand how he can use $ from campaigns in CO and VA and OH to promote
candidates in other states. Seems fishy.

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> Holy what the ACTUAL FUCK? It’s the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Fucking
> Twenty-Four, who actually listens to those two useless has-beens anymore?!

Welcome to the modern era, where any fool can start a podcast.

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I enjoyed seeing him on Stephanie Ruhle last night because he was surrounded by
a fully stocked bar and it was enough of a distraction that the conversation
moved away from Trump and focused on his alcohol supply.

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Dangermom is sitting in a chair.

She took three steps!

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re: #214 Jay C

> SRSLY: they really think that, this far into a campaign, that trying to
> Benghazi Tim Walz over bullshit like this is going to have ANY effect outside
> of the usual outcomes? i. e.,
> 1. Make Tim Walz look even more admirable.
> 2. Make themselves look even more petty, partisan and stupid.
> 3. Provide their Dem opponents (isn’t Jasmine Crockett on this Committee?)
> free publicity to look even better.

I can’t wait for Jasmine, Jaime and Jared to tag team Comer Pyle and his Goon
Squad over this. It’ll be glorious.

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> Holy what the ACTUAL FUCK? It’s the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Fucking
> Twenty-Four, who actually listens to those two useless has-beens anymore?!

Sort of like how the military-industrial blob is where a bunch of people
guarantee each other’s sinecures, established political commentary media is just
a conspiracy between a bunch of dudes to never, ever acknowledge that they don’t
know as much as they portend.

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re: #221 darthstar

> I enjoyed seeing him on Stephanie Ruhle last night because he was surrounded
> by a fully stocked bar and it was enough of a distraction that the
> conversation moved away from Trump and focused on his alcohol supply.

Probably the bulk of it having, by now, been relocated from the shelves to his
liver….

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> I enjoyed seeing him on Stephanie Ruhle last night because he was surrounded
> by a fully stocked bar and it was enough of a distraction that the
> conversation moved away from Trump and focused on his alcohol supply.

I don’t enjoy seeing him anywhere, anytime. Ugh. He makes my skin crawl.

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> Plus I read that even Ohio dislikes Vance. So, agreed.

I think there’s a REAL possibility that we’re looking at a perfect political
storm building…

Dobbs/Abortion
Climate Change
Gun Control
Corruption
Immigration
Economic/Tax Policy

if taken without the usual press equivocation and what simply looking around
could tell you, the people taking vacations, buying cars, the excitement about
Dem policies and the people at the head of the ticket and the type of people
they are…

I wonder if there’s a LOT more in play because no one has looked outside of the
swing states much. I see movement towards Dems everywhere and they’ve not had a
convention bounce yet. The GOP seems intent on self immolating and its hard for
the media to continue to cover what is being said when other sources outside
their control are sharing what is actually happening.

So I begin to wonder about Ohio, Montana, Missouri and elsewhere that very few
have bothered to poll.

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> Dangermom is sitting in a chair.
> 
> She took three steps!

Awesome. Now bring her whatever she needs.

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> They drag their little kids and pets around the country with them as props to
> appear daily in front of strange people, cameras, protesters, etc.. It’s the
> Desantis Campaign 2.0. https://t.co/rsUI7TmsRW
> 
> — Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) August 17, 2024

These GOP weirdos really don’t have a good track record with dogs.

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re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

At least J.D. hasn’t shot the dog.

Yet.

232 darthstar  Aug 17, 2024 • 8:43:31amreplyquote
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> [Embedded content]
> 
> These GOP weirdos really don’t have a good track record with dogs.

He’s got the same breed of dog as President Biden.

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the dog will do its best to be the “best boy” that he can be.

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> He’s got the same breed of dog as President Biden.

Well yeah, because he yelled at his staff, saying “BRING ME DOG. ME HUMAN MORE!”

And this is the first breed that popped up under “presidential dog.”

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‘SNL’ Alum Reveals She Only Has 3 Years to Live

Saturday Night Live alum Victoria Jackson announced that she has three years to
live, after finding out a cancerous mass in her chest was inoperable. Jackson
had previously announced her breast cancer diagnosis in 2016, but fought the
disease with chemo and a double mastectomy. Jackson was on the SNL cast from
1986 to 1992. The 65-year-old took to her Instagram page this week to break the
news, where she said the mass was “laying on my windpipe, and eventually would
suffocate me to death.” Jackson also notes in the Instagram video that her
doctor prescribed her a “magic pill” that would “hopefully” shrink the mass, but
even with the pill, she said, “I have 34.8 months to live.” Jackson joked in the
caption that she’d have the whole time “if I don’t get hit by a meteor, shot by
a MAGA hater, get Covid again or WWIII breaks out.” Jackson added, “I’ve had a
fantastic life.”

thedailybeast.com

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re: #229 darthstar

> Awesome. Now bring her whatever she needs.

Done.
Percocet

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Also, can I just complain that politicians who like dogs should REALLY stop
buying “purebred” dogs and go to a freaking shelter? Model that behavior,
people!

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It might have taken another guess or two but for my cat sitting there staring at
me.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 1,155 3/6

⬛🟨⬛⬛🟨
⬛🟨🟩🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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re: #231 Dr Lizardo

> At least J.D. hasn’t shot the dog.
> 
> Yet.

If he loses, all bets are off.

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re: #236 Dangerman

> Done.
> Percocet


External image

amazon.com

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> 116 years ago, a white mob attacked a Black community in Springfield,
> Illinois. The riot sparked outrage across the nation and led to the founding
> of the NAACP.
> 
> Today, @POTUS declared the Springfield Race Riot site a national monument to
> ensure its history can never be erased. https://t.co/e9hISPWegA
> 
> — James E. Clyburn (@RepJamesClyburn) August 16, 2024

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> [Embedded content]

Carville is a weirdo. He should join the Republicans. As for Begala, I thought
he died in about 2007. Maybe that was just brain death.

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re: #105 Decatur Deb

> Alabama is a lab rat on Project 2025 highway to theocracy
> al.com
> 
> We do get subversive opinions. Good cartoon.

A gay cousin posted one of those lists of the terrible proposals under Project
2025 and FB added a fact-check by conservatives that claimed that a lot (or
most) of the items were in error. Having a fact-check can be useful but not when
RW fanatics are the ones evaluating any statements.



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244 BeenHereAwhile  Aug 17, 2024 • 9:08:38amreplyquote
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> Trump is anti-semantic. Ford was anti-semitic.

Just following sudo-correct.

245 Romantic Heretic  Aug 17, 2024 • 9:10:47amreplyquote
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re: #161 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

The MAGAts, like all authoritarians and barbarians, are all about power. Power
for them without limit or responsibility.

So no surprises here.

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Sure, Jan!


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According to J. Dickhead every Murkan should be living in a house like this


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re: #123 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

> It’s a birb.
> Wordle 1,155 3/6
> 
> [Embedded content]

Birb and Perfect!


Click to Reveal

Wordle 1,155 3/6

🟩🟩⬜🟩⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Group: 3,3,4,4

Connections
Puzzle #433
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🟩🟩🟩🟩
🟦🟦🟦🟦
🟪🟪🟪🟪

Perfect after my near disaster yesterday — finally solved yesterday hours after
my initial efforts with no room for another error

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re: #130 Dangerman

> Good morning
> 
> so were looking at either the first woman president or the first convicted
> felon president.
> why is this even close?

Because misogyny and racism rule the day! And the MSM refuse to do their jobs.

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> If there’s one video y’all watch this weekend, this veteran’s response to
> Trump disparaging Congressional Medal of Honor recipients is not a bad choice.
> 🙌👏👊🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/hnf2pJm99R
> 
> — Bill Madden (@maddenifico) August 17, 2024

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> Carville is a weirdo. He should join the Republicans. As for Begala, I thought
> he died in about 2007. Maybe that was just brain death.

Begala’s shining moment—showing, once again, that Meghan McCain is an idiot.

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> Begala’s shining moment—showing, once again, that Meghan McCain is an idiot.
> 
> [Embedded content]

I mean, that is an incredibly low bar, there. A five-year-old child could school
Meghan McCain.

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re: #237 Unabogie

> Also, can I just complain that politicians who like dogs should REALLY stop
> buying “purebred” dogs and go to a freaking shelter? Model that behavior,
> people!

Joe Biden did that. First one.


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> Media platform X said on Saturday it would close its operations in Brazil
> “effective immediately” due to what it called “censorship orders” from
> Brazilian judge Alexandre de Moraes.
> 
> X claims Moraes secretly threatened one of its legal representatives in the
> South American country with arrest if it did not comply with legal orders to
> take down some content from its platform. Brazil’s Supreme Court, where Moraes
> has a seat, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
> 
> The X service remains available to the people of Brazil, billionaire Elon
> Musk’s platform said on Saturday.
> 
> Earlier this year, Moraes ordered X to block certain accounts, as he
> investigates so-called “digital militias” that have been accused of spreading
> fake news and hate messages during the government of far-right former
> President Jair Bolsonaro.

reuters.com

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re: #158 Nerdy Fish

> It really grinds my gears how popular it is to give more power to the State to
> execute people. There are far too many false positives based on prosecutorial
> misconduct, inadequate defense, undue deference to police (who lie all the
> time), or just a general attitude of contempt towards those who are alleged to
> have committed serious crimes for me to be comfortable handing that same
> system a blank check to kill those it finds guilty.

Still recall the L&O episode with Fred Thompson as the DA. A couple young black
men are sentenced to death based on false? misleading? testimony. The assistant
DA’s were relieved when the truth came out and they were saved. But one was very
troubled by the thought of an innocent being executed; Thompson’s response?
“Move to Illinois then; they outlawed capital punishment”. So proud of my state
being early in eliminating this penalty.

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Here’s your feel-good tune for the weekend…

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259 retired cynic  Aug 17, 2024 • 9:42:31amreplyquote
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re: #241 Belafon

Good! The community has worked on getting that together! The race riots over 100
years ago have been papered over for far too long.

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re: #249 Belafon

I was so outraged by this article (op-ed) that I went onto the site to upding
all the negative comments. Well, there were about 8000 comments, and all I found
were negative. So I up dinged a bunch of them, feeling happy that the community
there was also outraged.

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re: #260 retired cynic

> I was so outraged by this article (op-ed) that I went onto the site to upding
> all the negative comments. Well, there were about 8000 comments, and all I
> found were negative. So I up dinged a bunch of them, feeling happy that the
> community there was also outraged.

Unfortunately it’s all engagement which is what they want.

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re: #261 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

True, but threats of cancellation were heavy on the ground as well. We all know
that the new Murdoch hires are pushing hard right, and hate that a paper we
respected is slipping like this. Ugh. (Respected means overall: some opinion
columnists obviously exempted.)

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> True, but threats of cancellation were heavy on the ground as well. We all
> know that the new Murdoch hires are pushing hard right, and hate that a paper
> we respected is slipping like this. Ugh. (Respected means overall: some
> opinion columnists obviously exempted.)

Hasn’t stopped the NYT from carrying on. They don’t seem to care at all about
losing subscribers.

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re: #254 Teddy’s Person

> Joe Biden did that. First one.
> 
> [Embedded content]

That’s awesome, and yet another example of Joe Biden being just a decent human
being.

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Brainwashed Jesusbot relative posted this on Facebook…


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re: #180 darthstar

> Crap…still had the previous link in my memory…wouldn’t have rendered
> anyway…screenshot instead.
> 
> [Embedded content]

I’d be willing to gamble that Comer has exchanged friendly emails with Russians
and neo-Nazis, along with a few dudes who’ve discussed their plans to commit
domestic terror attacks…

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I’m old enough to remember Dems in Disarray. So long ago and far away.

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re: #267 Joe Bacon ✅

> Brainwashed Jesusbot relative posted this on Facebook…
> 
> [Embedded content]

A cauliflower?? //

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re: #270 Dangerman

> A cauliflower?? //

Gifts of food are often appropriate.

272 Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:05:09amreplyquote
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> A cauliflower?? //

Now I was expecting it to be one of them there Minnesota tacos! 😏

273 Belafon  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:05:58amreplyquote
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re: #259 retired cynic

> Good! The community has worked on getting that together! The race riots over
> 100 years ago have been papered over for far too long.

Reading through the replies, and a number of blue check marks have black avatars
and are talking about how Democrats are putting up trophies. Just felt like
rehashed Republican arguments.

274 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:07:28amreplyquote
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275 wrenchwench  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:08:30amreplyquote
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A birb fell into my lap. Wordle 1,155 3/6*

Click to Reveal

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276 Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:11:08amreplyquote
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Wow! how did THIS get in the Screw York Times?

Trump has ‘made clear’ he will turn the U.S. military loose on America if
re-elected: NYT

Painting a grim portrait if Donald Trump is re-elected, the New York Times is
reporting there is every reason to believe the former president will make use of
the Insurrection Act to deploy the U.S. military against American citizens
during protests he finds objectionable.

In a deep dive from the Times’ Maggie Haberman, Jonathan Swan and Charlie
Savage, they write that close associates of the former president have been hard
at work bolstering their case that the newly elected president can trample civil
liberties without regard for the Posse Comitatus Act that “generally makes it a
crime to use regular federal troops for domestic policing purposes.”

As they wrote, during his one term, the former president argued on multiple
occasions to deploy military personnel to shut down protests and take control of
the border. During a second term, he is not expected to have advisors pushing
back.

The report notes, ” … as he has sought a return to power, he has made clear that
he intends to use the military for a range of domestic law enforcement
purposes,” adding, “During his time out of power, allies of Mr. Trump have
worked on policy papers to provide legal justifications for the former
president’s intent to use the military to enforce the law domestically.”

The Times goes on to report that not everyone in Trump’s inner circle is on
board with his desire to exert previously unheard-of power.

“Indeed, even by the standards of various norm-busting plans Mr. Trump and his
advisers have developed, the idea of using American troops against Americans on
domestic soil stands apart. It has engendered quiet discomfort even among some
of his allies on other issues,” the report states before adding, “Most of the
open discussion of it by people other than Mr. Trump has focused on the prospect
of using troops in border states — not against American rioters or criminals,
but to arrest suspected undocumented migrants and better secure the border
against illegal crossings.”

rawstory.com

Of course Pinchy and his Presstitutes know that their pal Trump would never use
the military to shut down the Paper Of Record, RIGHT??????


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277 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:11:45amreplyquote
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I’m seeing a little bit of STOLEN VALOR! posts on various outlets online… and I
wonder how well this bit of swiftboating will take off.

There are plenty of gullible people out there.

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280 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:18:25amreplyquote
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ARGH.







281 can't think of a decent username  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:19:51amreplyquote
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re: #276 Joe Bacon ✅

I’ve always figured the first 3-6 months of a second Trump presidency would
involve mass violence coast-to-coast. Dictators thrive on terror, and the
Republicans are more than willing to slaughter 5-10 million Americans to make
sure the rest are too terrified to resist.

282 darthstar  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:21:01amreplyquote
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Who holds a leash like this?



283 wrenchwench  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:24:55amreplyquote
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re: #282 darthstar

> Who holds a leash like this?
> 
> [Embedded content]

I watched that yesterday. DiVance struggles with the umbrella when he gets to
the door. Later, his plane has a door issue. Connection?

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re: #283 wrenchwench

> I watched that yesterday. DiVance struggles with the umbrella when he gets to
> the door. Later, his plane has a door issue. Connection?

Probably closed the door on the leash.

286 Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:28:21amreplyquote
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re: #284 darthstar

What? He’s telling his stooges to get 10 people to register for mail or absentee
ballots?

I thought that motherfather opposes mail/absentee ballots!

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re: #283 wrenchwench

> I watched that yesterday. DiVance struggles with the umbrella when he gets to
> the door. Later, his plane has a door issue. Connection?

Ron DiVancis?

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re: #286 Joe Bacon ✅

> What? He’s telling his stooges to get 10 people to register for mail or
> absentee ballots?
> 
> I thought that motherfather opposes mail/absentee ballots!

He just posted it because of his image. He didn’t read the words.

289 Belafon  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:29:20amreplyquote
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re: #277 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

> I’m seeing a little bit of STOLEN VALOR! posts on various outlets online… and
> I wonder how well this bit of swiftboating will take off.
> 
> There are plenty of gullible people out there.

All replies are “Why are you attacking a soldier?” If you want to get into it,
you can ask “What stolen valor?”

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re: #205 darthstar

> I was just about to point that out, but this is a ‘sun belt’ story. Still, PA,
> OH, MI, WI are all trending toward Harris as well, with MI and WI being above
> the MOE. Wait until after the convention and Labor Day when people start
> paying attention. We’re going to see some actual movement I suspect.

Let’s just hope the protestors (who are in the tank for Trump and working to get
him elected) don’t cause any real disruption at the convention. Otherwise it’s
1968 all over again.

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re: #287 darthstar

> Ron DiVancis?

I was going for the couch reference.

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re: #290 Hecuba’s daughter

> Let’s just hope the protestors (who are in the tank for Trump and working to
> get him elected) don’t cause any real disruption at the convention. Otherwise
> it’s 1968 all over again.

People keep Jonesing for another 1968. The Palestinian protest is expecting
22-25K people on Monday - just Monday when President Biden speaks. Today he
announced a joint agreement with Egypt and Qatar mediating with Israel/Hamas and
it was the strongest language yet. If we can convince Israel not to bomb
Palestinian civilians for three days, the protest may actually be somewhat
subdued.

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re: #291 wrenchwench

> I was going for the couch reference.

Oh, Vladimir Futon.

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Yes! Will also work as boat!

> Russia’s Kadyrov equips Tesla truck with machinegun for war
> reuters.com
> 
> 
> External image

295 Belafon  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:35:47amreplyquote
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re: #294 jaunte

Firing the gun will probably rip off the bed.

296 jaunte  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:37:03amreplyquote
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re: #295 Belafon

For all your invasion on smooth pavement needs.

297 Unabogie  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:39:11amreplyquote
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re: #295 Belafon

> Firing the gun will probably rip off the bed.

And void the warranty!

298 darthstar  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:41:06amreplyquote
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> And void the warranty!

Beat me to it. LOL.

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300 Dangerman  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:50:28amreplyquote
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re: #282 darthstar

> Who holds a leash like this?
> 
> [Embedded content]

Someone who has never held a leash before

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> Someone who has never held a leash before

Especially with a GSD at the other end of it.

302 Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 17, 2024 • 10:59:46amreplyquote
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Tim wants nothing to do with a spoiled brat who got away with murder.


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304 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Aug 17, 2024 • 11:06:10amreplyquote
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re: #213 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

My mother pitcking me up from a friend’s house in HS. Stage whisper - ’ you
didn’t tell me he was black’. Uh, it never crossed my mind. After that, I picked
up on the subtle racism my mother harbored from growing up Iowa (born in 1929).
My father, same town, same birth year was the most liberal person when it came
to sexuality, race, gender, etc. I’ve mentioned before, coded brew akerfor NSA,
when all had a discussion about ‘no gays in the military and other agencies, he
and I tried to tell my mom, it only matters if it’s hidden and she was ‘they’re
gay - blackmail’ never did get her to understand it was the onus and not the
person.

305 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Aug 17, 2024 •
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re: #294 jaunte

> Yes! Will also work as boat!

Given material, shape and weight (2900 kilos) it would make a good kinetic
energy penetrator for its explosive/incendiary filling, er, batteries.

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All this somber wonkiness about the Kamala Harris plan effects on the economy

Not a mention of what effect 1 million deportations would cause to the economy
in terms of paying for it, in terms of training costs to the military. Or the
impact of deporting people who work for low wages, in bad conditions, on what
that will do to the cost of items. Or the cost of the Burack receipt to
determine who gets deported, and who gets to stay. Or the cost of logistics all
of these things would destroy our country and destroy our economy, and they are
central tenant to the Republican platform as evidence by all those placards at
the convention, let’s talk about crashing the economy you think that Steven
Miller is some economic, genius man who got a bridge to sell to you

Or the emotional cost both on the people deported, and the people who have to do
the job or on the potential for blowback costs MS 13 was partly a creation of
mass deportation of a bunch of people back to Central America

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re: #204 BeenHereAwhile

> My grandfather worked for Henry Ford, and was anti-semantic like Henry Ford.
> 
> My mother (his daughter) never understood why her father was anti-semantic.

and because he was anti-semantic, he could never explain it either.

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> and because he was anti-semantic, he could never explain it either.

Sudo-correct.

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re: #222 Dangerman

> Dangermom is sitting in a chair.
> 
> She took three steps!

Yay!!!!

Am just getting a toe back in the water today, so have missed the previous
health bulletins — from the fact that you’re reporting this, I will take it as A
Good Sign.

Sending good wishes for all the Dangers

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