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Submission: On January 23 via manual from US — Scanned from DE
Submission: On January 23 via manual from US — Scanned from DE
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1. 06-15-2016 #1
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BYSTANDER EYE SAFETY
> We wear shaded lenses to protect our eyes from the welding arc. We also
> tell our guests or colleagues to look away from the arc or wear their own
> eye protection.
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> What about the neighbors across the street? Are they at a safe distance
> from the arc in my driveway? What if the toddler across the street
> decides to spend the afternoon watching me weld? I have absolutely NO
> idea if she would be at risk of retinal eye damage if she watches me
> weld. Should I weld in the garage with the door half way down? Or am I
> unnecessarily worrying?
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RE: BYSTANDER EYE SAFETY
> Good question I've often worried about this my self. I'd hate to have a
> neighbor walking down my side of the street on the sidewalk happen to
> glare at the arc while walking by my house. Have been thinking about
> putting up a flash wall of some sort just to keep my neighbors safe.
> maybe a cloth of some sort I can hang on a roll up to move into or out of
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RE: BYSTANDER EYE SAFETY
> I believe the OSHA safe distance is 50' from the weld. They may see spots
> ( no difference from looking at any bright light), but after that
> distance they shouldn't have any eye damage.
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RE: BYSTANDER EYE SAFETY
> Originally Posted by DSW
> I believe the OSHA safe distance is 50' from the weld. They may see spots
> ( no difference from looking at any bright light), but after that
> distance they shouldn't have any eye damage.
> I was going to say 30', but either way, across the street shouldn't be a
> problem.
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> ETA... I did a little searching. Best I could find was on ohsonline
> saying damage could occur as far away as 50'. I didn't see any time frame
> of exposure listed.
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> I usually close the door or block the arc with my body.
> Last edited by Boostinjdm; 06-16-2016 at 12:43 AM.
> My name's not Jim....
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> I've always welded with the garage door part way down. On hot summer days
> I'd prefer to weld out on the driveway where the ventilation is better.
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RE: BYSTANDER EYE SAFETY
> In my opinion if you are welding in public you have to set up a screen.
> Not everyone knows the rules of your trade. Heck most people in the trade
> don't know them either. I remember once I was welding and heard voices
> (that were not the normal ones I hear) so I stopped. I looked over to the
> voices and noticed about a 2 year old girl standing right beside me
> looking up and smiling. The two women looked at me like I was stupid for
> cussing them out. Funny thing is is that one of the women's sons is a
> welder/inspector.
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> I guess one would need to consider the output of the weld in with
> determining the distance?
> Last edited by mikecwik; 06-16-2016 at 12:34 AM.
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RE: BYSTANDER EYE SAFETY
> Originally Posted by mikecwik
> In my opinion if you are welding in public you have to set up a screen.
> Not everyone knows the rules of your trade. Heck most people in the trade
> don't know them either. I remember once I was welding and heard voices
> (that were not the normal ones I hear) so I stopped. I looked over to the
> voices and noticed about a 2 year old girl standing right beside me
> looking up and smiling. The two women looked at me like I was stupid for
> cussing them out. Funny thing is is that one of the women's sons is a
> welder/inspector.
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> I guess one would need to consider the output of the weld in with
> determining the distance?
> Process and output does make a difference. Still across the street is
> usually 60 feet plus. Should cover most all coincidental viewing. I'm 400
> feet back off a dirt road, so no problem.
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RE: BYSTANDER EYE SAFETY
> Get a screen or two. They keep the sparks contained, likely protecting
> your car, lawn, and etc. They also make it a lot more pleasurable for
> everyone passing by. They will keep your neighbors happier. I'm in a
> commercial area and I use my screens outside because I get a lot of car
> traffic down the alley. The screen frames can also double as paint racks
> when you need to paint a lot of small parts. Or when you need to protect
> something from over spray.
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RE: BYSTANDER EYE SAFETY
> Originally Posted by mikecwik
> In my opinion if you are welding in public you have to set up a screen.
> Not everyone knows the rules of your trade. Heck most people in the trade
> don't know them either.
> I agree with Mike and forhire. One of the translucent screens or the
> canvas type is a must. There are too many ignorant people and unknowing
> kids.
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RE: BYSTANDER EYE SAFETY
> Your neighbors are pretty much safe as the UV light falls off rather
> quickly- Inverse square law.
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> As mentioned process and amperage play roll in the Safe Distance.
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> 200amps Mild Steel GMAW 23.67 feet away they would have to stand there
> for 10mins.
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> https://app.aws.org/mwf/attachments/...ngDistance.pdf
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