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‘HE NEVER STOPPED RIPPING THINGS UP’: INSIDE TRUMP’S RELENTLESS DOCUMENT
DESTRUCTION HABITS


TRUMP’S SHREDDING OF PAPER IN THE WHITE HOUSE WAS FAR MORE WIDESPREAD AND
INDISCRIMINATE THAN PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AND — DESPITE MULTIPLE ADMONISHMENTS —
EXTENDED THROUGHOUT HIS PRESIDENCY.


Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump tosses a paper with polling
statistics during a town hall event on Oct. 6, 2016, in Sandown, N.H. (Mary
Schwalm/AFP/Getty Images)
By Ashley Parker
, 
Josh Dawsey
, 
Tom Hamburger
and 
Jacqueline Alemany
 
February 5, 2022 at 4:09 p.m. EST
By Ashley Parker
, 
Josh Dawsey
, 
Tom Hamburger
and 
Jacqueline Alemany
 
February 5, 2022 at 4:09 p.m. EST
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President Donald Trump tore up briefings and schedules, articles and letters,
memos both sensitive and mundane.

He ripped paper into quarters with two big, clean strokes — or occasionally more
vigorously, into smaller scraps.

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He left the detritus on his desk in the Oval Office, in the trash can of his
private West Wing study and on the floor aboard Air Force One, among many other
places.

And he did it all in violation of the Presidential Records Act, despite being
urged by at least two chiefs of staff and the White House counsel to follow the
law on preserving documents.

“It is absolutely a violation of the act,” said Courtney Chartier, president of
the Society of American Archivists. “There is no ignorance of these laws. There
are White House manuals about the maintenance of these records.”

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Although glimpses of Trump’s penchant for ripping were reported earlier in his
presidency — by Politico in 2018 — the House select committee’s investigation
into the Jan. 6 insurrection has shined a new spotlight on the practice. The
Washington Post reported that some of the White House records the National
Archives and Records Administration turned over to the committee appeared to
have been torn apart and then taped back together.

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Interviews with 11 former Trump staffers, associates and others familiar with
the habit reveal that Trump’s shredding of paper was far more widespread and
indiscriminate than previously known and — despite multiple admonishments —
extended throughout his presidency, resulting in special practices to deal with
the torn fragments. Most of these people spoke on the condition of anonymity to
share candid details of a problematic practice.



The ripping was so relentless that Trump’s team implemented protocols to try to
ensure that he was abiding by the Presidential Records Act. Typically, aides
from either the Office of the Staff Secretary or the Oval Office Operations team
would come in behind Trump to retrieve the piles of torn paper he left in his
wake, according to one person familiar with the routine. Then, staffers from the
White House Office of Records Management were generally responsible for
jigsawing the documents back together, using clear tape.

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The Presidential Records Act requires that the White House preserve all written
communication related to a president’s official duties — memos, letters, notes,
emails, faxes and other material — and turn it over to the National Archives.

Some records sent to Jan. 6 were torn up, taped back together — mirroring a
Trump habit

Typically, the White House records office makes decisions on archival vs.
non-archival materials, according to an Archives official. The Presidential
Records Act lays out a process allowing a president to dispose of records only
after obtaining the assent of records officials.

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It is unclear how many records were lost or permanently destroyed through
Trump’s ripping routine, as well as what consequences, if any, he might face.
Hundreds of documents, if not more, were likely torn up, those familiar with the
practice say.

“It is against the law, but the problem is that the Presidential Records Act, as
written, does not have any real enforcement mechanism,” said James Grossman,
executive director of the American Historical Association. “It’s that sort of
thing where there’s a law, but who has the authority to enforce the law, and the
existing law is toothless.”



One person familiar with the National Archives process said that staff there
were stunned at how many papers they received from the Trump administration that
were ripped, and described it internally as “unprecedented.”

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One senior Trump White House official said he and other White House staffers
frequently put documents into “burn bags” to be destroyed, rather than
preserving them, and would decide themselves what should be saved and what
should be burned. When the Jan. 6 committee asked for certain documents related
to Trump’s efforts to pressure Vice President Mike Pence, for example, some of
them no longer existed in this person’s files because they had already been
shredded, said someone familiar with the request.

Early in the administration, the torn paper became such a problem that the
administration officials responsible for records management went to then-White
House counsel Donald McGahn and then-deputy White House counsel Stefan
Passantino, who handled ethics issues, to urge them to remind Trump and other
senior West Wing staff about the importance of preserving documents to comply
with the records act.

A former senior administration official said Trump was warned about the records
act by McGahn, as well as his first two chiefs of staff, Reince Priebus and John
F. Kelly, who lamented to allies that Trump would “rip up everything,” according
to a person who heard his comments. Passantino also warned other aides about
preserving documents.

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Passantino declined to comment. McGahn did not respond to requests for comment.

A Trump spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

Priebus urged aides not to put what he called “crazy” documents on Trump’s desk
— articles, for instance, from far-right websites spouting conspiracy theories,
according to a person with direct knowledge of his request. He told others that
Trump would read them and sometimes tear them up.

“He didn’t want a record of anything,” a former senior Trump official said. “He
never stopped ripping things up. Do you really think Trump is going to care
about the records act? Come on.”

Problems with records preservation persisted throughout Trump’s term and became
particularly acute at the time of the transition to the Biden administration.

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Other administrations have also run afoul of the Presidential Records Act. White
House aides in both Democratic and Republican administrations, for example, have
long used personal devices to text with reporters as well as other staff, rather
than government-issued devices, while others have been caught using personal
email for official work.

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But people familiar with Trump’s conduct said it ran far deeper than
occasionally skirting up against the boundaries of the law.

“The biggest takeaway I have from that behavior is it reflects a conviction that
he was above the law,” said presidential historian Lindsay Chervinsky. “He did
not see himself bound by those things.”

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Former aides said Trump was haphazard in what he ripped, often tearing up papers
that were not classified or even particularly sensitive. Some said they viewed
it more as a quirk and not a deliberate attempt to avoid public scrutiny, in
part because he was so indiscriminate with what he tore.

While he occasionally left tiny scraps, three people who watched him described a
regular process — he would tear a sheet of paper in half once, and then rip it
once more into quarters.

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“I have seen Trump tear up papers, not into small, small pieces, but usually
twice — so take a piece of paper, rip it once, and then rip it again and then
throw it into the garbage pail,” said Michael Cohen, Trump’s former personal
lawyer who in 2018 pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations as well as
lying to Congress.

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The habit dates back to the former president’s time as a businessman, when he
used email extremely rarely. Cohen said that Trump seemed to enjoy the actual
process of ripping paper, especially if he did not like the contents of the
memo.

“When something irritated him, he would tear the document,” Cohen said. “The
physical act of ripping the paper for Donald was cathartic, and it provided him
a relief, as if the issue was no longer relevant. Basically, you rip the piece
of paper and you’re done — that’s how Donald’s brain works.”

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The practice continued into the White House. Aides jokingly referred to “The
Boxes” — large boxes filled with reams of paper that Trump often traveled with.
Two people familiar with the boxes said they contained a true miscellany of
paper — physical newspapers, articles, memos, briefing books, a media summary
from the day including printed screenshots of cable news headlines — and that
Trump would often rifle through them on long flights.

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Sometimes he would read something and sign it in his signature Sharpie, placing
it in a folder to be sent to a certain recipient, one of these people said.
Other times, he would rip the paper once he was done and toss it on the floor.

This person added that they once saw Trump tear up a piece of paper and then
slip it into the pocket of his suit jacket.

Trump’s troubling habit became the focus of internal concern early in his
administration, one former Trump official said, when records personnel noticed
that a range of official documents logged as going to the Oval Office or the
White House residence were not being returned to be filed in accordance with
White House record-keeping rules.

When staffers first started going to look for these missing records — which
spanned a range of topics, including conversations with foreign leaders — they
sometimes found them in a pile of ripped paper in the Oval Office or the White
House residence.

But on other occasions, torn documents were found in classified burn bags, which
are used to dispose of documents, according to one former Trump White House
official. Records personnel would routinely dump the contents of burn bags on a
table and try to puzzle out which of the torn documents needed to be taped
together and preserved, the former official said.



Burn bags, which resemble paper grocery bags, are available throughout the White
House complex. There are two types, for classified and unclassified material,
and different requirements for each in determining what can be destroyed,
experts said. The classified bags are marked with diagonal red stripes.

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Both types of bags are ultimately destroyed, but the mechanism for how they are
destroyed and safeguarded is different. There were regular “burn runs,” in which
classified bags would be collected from offices and sent to the Pentagon for
incineration.

Grossman said that Trump’s chaotic approach to handling physical documents
leaves gaping holes in the historical record, not to mention being disrespectful
to the archivists and general public.

“We don’t know how much of it was or was not successfully taped back together,”
Grossman said. “Also, how much did the taxpayers pay to have a bunch of highly
qualified archivists sit at a desk and tape things back together?”

Some experts also said Trump hurt his own legacy with his document destruction
practices — leaving less behind for historians to examine.

“For a president to just wantonly tear things up is just a little shocking, that
there’s not even a little egotistical thought about legacy,” Chartier said.

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