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URL:
http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
Submission: On December 03 via manual (December 3rd 2019, 2:03:43 pm UTC) from BR

Summary HTTP 9 Redirects Links 2 Behaviour Indicators

Summary

This website contacted 3 IPs in 2 countries across 3 domains to perform 9 HTTP transactions. The main IP is 2606:4700:30::6818:7869, located in United States and belongs to CLOUDFLARENET - Cloudflare, Inc., US. The main domain is dezembroliquidado.com.

This is the only time dezembroliquidado.com was scanned on urlscan.io!

urlscan.io Verdict: Potentially Malicious

Targeting these brands: Generic Scam (Online)

Domain & IP information

	IP Address	AS Autonomous System
3	2606:4700:30:... 2606:4700:30::6818:7869	13335 (CLOUDFLAR...) (CLOUDFLARENET - Cloudflare)
1	34.102.248.206 34.102.248.206	15169 (GOOGLE) (GOOGLE - Google LLC)
5	2.21.37.20 2.21.37.20	20940 (AKAMAI-ASN1) (AKAMAI-ASN1)
9	3

3 2606:4700:30::6818:7869 (United States)

ASN13335 (CLOUDFLARENET - Cloudflare, Inc., US)

dezembroliquidado.com	Domain lookup VirusTotal SecurityTrails crt.sh Censys Domaintools

1 34.102.248.206 (United States)

ASN15169 (GOOGLE - Google LLC, US)
PTR: 206.248.102.34.bc.googleusercontent.com

a-static.mlcdn.com.br	Domain lookup VirusTotal SecurityTrails crt.sh Censys Domaintools

5 2.21.37.20 (France)

ASN20940 (AKAMAI-ASN1, US)
PTR: a2-21-37-20.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com

static.mlstatic.com	Domain lookup VirusTotal SecurityTrails crt.sh Censys Domaintools

	Apex Domain Subdomains	Transfer
5	mlstatic.com static.mlstatic.com	17 KB
3	dezembroliquidado.com dezembroliquidado.com	16 KB
1	mlcdn.com.br a-static.mlcdn.com.br	26 KB
9	3

	Domain	Requested by
5	static.mlstatic.com	dezembroliquidado.com
3	dezembroliquidado.com	dezembroliquidado.com
1	a-static.mlcdn.com.br	dezembroliquidado.com
9	3

This site contains links to these domains. Also see Links.

Domain
www.mercadolivre.com.br

Subject Issuer	Validity	Valid
*.mlcdn.com.br COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA	`2018-10-03` - `2020-12-01`	2 years	crt.sh

This page contains 1 frames:

Primary Page: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
Frame ID: 3A0353273E3DA39635C5ED010EA12B8C
Requests: 9 HTTP requests in this frame

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Detected technologies

PHP (Programming Languages) Expand

Overall confidence: 100%
Detected patterns

url /\.php(?:$|\?)/i

CloudFlare (CDN) Expand

Overall confidence: 100%
Detected patterns

headers server /^cloudflare$/i

Page Statistics

9
Requests

11 %
HTTPS

33 %
IPv6

3
Domains

3
Subdomains

3
IPs

2
Countries

59 kB
Transfer

107 kB
Size

0
Cookies

2 Outgoing links

These are links going to different origins than the main page.

URL: https://www.mercadolivre.com.br/ajuda/Pol%EDticas-de-Privacidade_1442
Title: Políticas de privacidade

Search URL Search Domain Scan URL

URL: https://www.mercadolivre.com.br/ajuda/Termos-e-condicoes-gerais-de-uso_1409
Title: Termos e condições

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Redirected requests

There were HTTP redirect chains for the following requests:

9 HTTP transactions
0 data transactions

Method
Protocol Status Resource
Path Size
x-fer Time
Latency Type
MIME-Type IP
Location

GET
H/1.1 200
OK Primary Request Cookie set promocao.php Show response
dezembroliquidado.com/ 60 KB
9 KB 967ms
932ms Document
text/html 2606:4700:30::6818:7869
Cloudflare

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Full URL: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
Protocol: HTTP/1.1
Server: 2606:4700:30::6818:7869 , United States, ASN13335 (CLOUDFLARENET - Cloudflare, Inc., US),
Reverse DNS
Software: cloudflare / PHP/7.3.11
Resource Hash: c4e9d3ca771ab55f3a976685c90b237fd7af14b53b1a4a10c4f759a954df3388

Request headers

Host: dezembroliquidado.com
Connection: keep-alive
Pragma: no-cache
Cache-Control: no-cache
Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_5) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.169 Safari/537.36
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,image/webp,image/apng,*/*;q=0.8,application/signed-exchange;v=b3
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_5) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.169 Safari/537.36

Response headers

Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:03:20 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Connection: keep-alive
Set-Cookie: __cfduid=d55ecfa1676bfb5a730200130cc7e02851575381799; expires=Thu, 02-Jan-20 14:03:19 GMT; path=/; domain=.dezembroliquidado.com; HttpOnly PHPSESSID=89g9qknqgvr54uq8tlpkbglk17; path=/
X-Powered-By: PHP/7.3.11
Expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT
Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate
Pragma: no-cache
CF-Cache-Status: DYNAMIC
Server: cloudflare
CF-RAY: 53f61555ba19cb9c-VIE
Content-Encoding: gzip

GET
H/1.1 200
OK logo-meli-br2x.png
dezembroliquidado.com/Raiz/ResponseForm_files/ 3 KB
3 KB 30ms
18ms Image
image/png 2606:4700:30::6818:7869
Cloudflare

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Full URL: http://dezembroliquidado.com/Raiz/ResponseForm_files/logo-meli-br2x.png
Requested by: Host: dezembroliquidado.com
URL: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
Protocol: HTTP/1.1
Server: 2606:4700:30::6818:7869 , United States, ASN13335 (CLOUDFLARENET - Cloudflare, Inc., US),
Reverse DNS
Software: cloudflare /
Resource Hash: 7aac328cd05ec15956e0e6e5bc7c2d6800fb94b6d39d89ab7e09535d176aefcb

Request headers

Referer: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_5) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.169 Safari/537.36

Response headers

Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:03:20 GMT
CF-Cache-Status: HIT
Last-Modified: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 15:01:07 GMT
Server: cloudflare
Age: 4557
ETag: "b00-5987d7fe936ec"
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Content-Type: image/png
Cache-Control: max-age=14400
Connection: keep-alive
Accept-Ranges: bytes
CF-RAY: 53f6155bab33cbc0-VIE
Content-Length: 2816

GET
H2 200 665e33805a99ad6159e55e4a15ce13f2.jpg
a-static.mlcdn.com.br/618x463/jogo-de-panelas-tramontina-antiaderente-de-aluminio-vermelho-10-pecas-turim-20298-722/magazineluiza/144129900/ 25 KB
26 KB 27ms
7ms Image
image/jpeg 34.102.248.206
Google LLC

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Full URL: https://a-static.mlcdn.com.br/618x463/jogo-de-panelas-tramontina-antiaderente-de-aluminio-vermelho-10-pecas-turim-20298-722/magazineluiza/144129900/665e33805a99ad6159e55e4a15ce13f2.jpg
Requested by: Host: dezembroliquidado.com
URL: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
Protocol: H2
Security: TLS 1.2, ECDHE_RSA, AES_128_GCM
Server: 34.102.248.206 , United States, ASN15169 (GOOGLE - Google LLC, US),
Reverse DNS: 206.248.102.34.bc.googleusercontent.com
Software: nginx /
Resource Hash: 2fc5bae097a6171ce5bdfa5d451f8b9217dfd4053b55fe98f58e471ffabdd2ab

Request headers

Referer: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_5) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.169 Safari/537.36

Response headers

date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 11:32:39 GMT
via: 1.1 google
age: 613841
status: 200
x-guploader-uploadid: AEnB2UoHnRM04CF2ID0YpjEFgDk1x9MP5j3eXl6KVI6rdmEDuCOT64E2jJEMZJoq8He3KcpJJEMyJ15EzI89Mm4eJheNc-irig
x-goog-storage-class: MULTI_REGIONAL
x-goog-metageneration: 1
x-goog-stored-content-encoding: identity
alt-svc: clear
content-length: 26099
last-modified: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 17:29:56 GMT
server: nginx
etag: W/"665e33805a99ad6159e55e4a15ce13f2"
x-goog-hash: crc32c=AlI6Qw==, md5=Zl4zgFqZrWFZ5V5KFc4T8g==
x-goog-generation: 1565112596444822
cache-control: max-age=31536000,public
x-goog-stored-content-length: 149854
accept-ranges: bytes
content-type: image/jpeg
expires: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 11:32:39 GMT

GET
H/1.1 200
OK appstore_v2.png
static.mlstatic.com/org-img/mkt/email-mkt-assets/icons/ 4 KB
5 KB 25ms
6ms Image
image/png 2.21.37.20
AKAMAI-ASN1

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Full URL

http://static.mlstatic.com/org-img/mkt/email-mkt-assets/icons/appstore_v2.png

Requested by

Host: dezembroliquidado.com
URL: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php

Protocol

HTTP/1.1

Server

2.21.37.20 , France, ASN20940 (AKAMAI-ASN1, US),

Reverse DNS

a2-21-37-20.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com

Software

truelove /

Resource Hash

d1c89e66e1094e5ecdbb25f31e492927dcfeb7f8b1633dfa51956bdbc547c363

Security Headers

Name	Value
X-Content-Type-Options	nosniff
X-Xss-Protection	1; mode=block

Request headers

Referer: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_5) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.169 Safari/537.36

Response headers

Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:03:20 GMT
X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
X-D2id: fc58c4af-1b19-4b7e-9e81-265a912668d1
Last-Modified: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 17:31:26 GMT
Server: truelove
x-amz-request-id: CCD9A5EA1AC8DBA7
ETag: "9b67462d31409cd03d15928ddba7acec"
Content-Type: image/png
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
X-XSS-Protection: 1; mode=block
Connection: keep-alive
Content-Length: 4311
x-amz-id-2: tma1QJFs6xS3ZJxOq7F2rTMuN5sBVscFcpCADMx/VgGMrhN8SZ5eSKvOUSheNcJhLBUOk4TrtX0=
X-Request-Id: fc58c4af-1b19-4b7e-9e81-265a912668d1

GET
H/1.1 200
OK googleplay_v2.png
static.mlstatic.com/org-img/mkt/email-mkt-assets/icons/ 6 KB
7 KB 25ms
7ms Image
image/png 2.21.37.20
AKAMAI-ASN1

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Full URL

http://static.mlstatic.com/org-img/mkt/email-mkt-assets/icons/googleplay_v2.png

Requested by

Host: dezembroliquidado.com
URL: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php

Protocol

HTTP/1.1

Server

2.21.37.20 , France, ASN20940 (AKAMAI-ASN1, US),

Reverse DNS

a2-21-37-20.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com

Software

truelove /

Resource Hash

7a1c0ec6d4b0a580bbf33359f30056432111caeeba5f450d05f6c952c2e1f4d1

Security Headers

Name	Value
X-Content-Type-Options	nosniff
X-Xss-Protection	1; mode=block

Request headers

Referer: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_5) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.169 Safari/537.36

Response headers

Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:03:20 GMT
X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
X-D2id: 0205f507-7ca9-4fcf-9d0f-bb7cb98db4b6
Last-Modified: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 17:31:26 GMT
Server: truelove
x-amz-request-id: E72E750372DD731D
ETag: "782d7cfbed3f10aee9aff9cc99cfc900"
Content-Type: image/png
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
X-XSS-Protection: 1; mode=block
Connection: keep-alive
Content-Length: 6123
x-amz-id-2: TvIaMbK6io8FO9DiHyFzuRo5Y5SODt8vIg8R3GoXVGpXpB05Zy0kpWZ3Z7pBs3toAHDbPTtH9UI=
X-Request-Id: 0205f507-7ca9-4fcf-9d0f-bb7cb98db4b6

GET
H/1.1 404
Not Found facebook.png
static.mlstatic.com/org-img/emails/marketing/bienvenida/ 0
0 151ms
135ms Image
text/html 2.21.37.20
AKAMAI-ASN1

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Full URL: http://static.mlstatic.com/org-img/emails/marketing/bienvenida/facebook.png
Requested by: Host: dezembroliquidado.com
URL: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
Protocol: HTTP/1.1
Server: 2.21.37.20 , France, ASN20940 (AKAMAI-ASN1, US),
Reverse DNS: a2-21-37-20.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com
Software: /
Resource Hash: e3b0c44298fc1c149afbf4c8996fb92427ae41e4649b934ca495991b7852b855

Request headers

Referer: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_5) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.169 Safari/537.36

Response headers

Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *

GET
H/1.1 200
OK Instagram.png
dezembroliquidado.com/Raiz/ResponseForm_files/ 4 KB
4 KB 32ms
20ms Image
image/png 2606:4700:30::6818:7869
Cloudflare

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Full URL: http://dezembroliquidado.com/Raiz/ResponseForm_files/Instagram.png
Requested by: Host: dezembroliquidado.com
URL: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
Protocol: HTTP/1.1
Server: 2606:4700:30::6818:7869 , United States, ASN13335 (CLOUDFLARENET - Cloudflare, Inc., US),
Reverse DNS
Software: cloudflare /
Resource Hash: bfa0db91f56d44d0fb914f975988002f2827ba2ca2d110802f2a62fb45ec3caa

Request headers

Referer: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_5) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.169 Safari/537.36

Response headers

Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:03:20 GMT
CF-Cache-Status: HIT
Last-Modified: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 15:01:07 GMT
Server: cloudflare
Age: 4558
ETag: "e85-5987d7fe8f484"
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Content-Type: image/png
Cache-Control: max-age=14400
Connection: keep-alive
Accept-Ranges: bytes
CF-RAY: 53f6155dfa038c68-VIE
Content-Length: 3717

GET
H/1.1 200
OK icontwt.png
static.mlstatic.com/org-img/mkt/email-mkt-assets/2x/ 3 KB
3 KB 22ms
7ms Image
image/png 2.21.37.20
AKAMAI-ASN1

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Full URL

http://static.mlstatic.com/org-img/mkt/email-mkt-assets/2x/icontwt.png

Requested by

Host: dezembroliquidado.com
URL: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php

Protocol

HTTP/1.1

Server

2.21.37.20 , France, ASN20940 (AKAMAI-ASN1, US),

Reverse DNS

a2-21-37-20.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com

Software

truelove /

Resource Hash

7ec374350419550a817b1d1edbd58f5826ee7072c0c0595cf321a7354bab30c2

Security Headers

Name	Value
X-Content-Type-Options	nosniff
X-Xss-Protection	1; mode=block

Request headers

Referer: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_5) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.169 Safari/537.36

Response headers

Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:03:20 GMT
X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
X-D2id: b544e543-abc6-4eea-9a8c-ab57eb2b5f9c
Last-Modified: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 17:31:12 GMT
Server: truelove
x-amz-request-id: 74CDCBCB2F6FC5B9
ETag: "4666ae9b6fa079e945d727501fddf203"
Content-Type: image/png
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
X-XSS-Protection: 1; mode=block
Connection: keep-alive
Content-Length: 2937
x-amz-id-2: NqUrTnA4Q27CubU2KQerDzHutCWcGtYXUS0xArrDv1qIqGKe+zP+gxuJnsbSzJDRS6yF/NWIvmo=
X-Request-Id: b544e543-abc6-4eea-9a8c-ab57eb2b5f9c

GET
H/1.1 200
OK youtube.png
static.mlstatic.com/org-img/emails/marketing/ 1 KB
2 KB 23ms
7ms Image
image/png 2.21.37.20
AKAMAI-ASN1

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Full URL

http://static.mlstatic.com/org-img/emails/marketing/youtube.png

Requested by

Host: dezembroliquidado.com
URL: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php

Protocol

HTTP/1.1

Server

2.21.37.20 , France, ASN20940 (AKAMAI-ASN1, US),

Reverse DNS

a2-21-37-20.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com

Software

truelove /

Resource Hash

d25673af09081eadea40309e86030b5b440d27c492eb9c2c6d6b9786f023d03e

Security Headers

Name	Value
X-Content-Type-Options	nosniff
X-Xss-Protection	1; mode=block

Request headers

Referer: http://dezembroliquidado.com/promocao.php
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_5) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.169 Safari/537.36

Response headers

Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:03:20 GMT
X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
X-D2id: fd5114cd-351a-4eec-bc0a-b6b7529196f1
Last-Modified: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 17:27:21 GMT
Server: truelove
x-amz-request-id: D08365FAFDB750B8
ETag: "f63d5284b22973302794643849c17f59"
Content-Type: image/png
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
X-XSS-Protection: 1; mode=block
Connection: keep-alive
Content-Length: 1452
x-amz-id-2: rK9XeVSwGjOVGyLHINNR5fhZEdgHmQATRfMa/3NDpWzfFjL2Z/5a/ycghRLTB930bf6wdt1Y90U=
X-Request-Id: fd5114cd-351a-4eec-bc0a-b6b7529196f1

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Potentially malicious activity detected
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urlscan

Phishing against: Generic Scam (Online)

2 JavaScript Global Variables

These are the non-standard "global" variables defined on the window object. These can be helpful in identifying possible client-side frameworks and code.

object| onformdata object| onpointerrawupdate

0 Cookies

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Indicators

This is a term in the security industry to describe indicators such as IPs, Domains, Hashes, etc. This does not imply that any of these indicate malicious activity.

a-static.mlcdn.com.br
dezembroliquidado.com
static.mlstatic.com
2.21.37.20
2606:4700:30::6818:7869
34.102.248.206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dezembroliquidado.com Open in urlscan Pro 2606:4700:30::6818:7869 Malicious Activity! Public Scan

Summary

urlscan.io Verdict: Potentially Malicious

Domain & IP information

Screenshot Live screenshot Full Image

Detected technologies

Page Statistics

9 Requests

11 %HTTPS

33 %IPv6

3 Domains

3 Subdomains

3 IPs

2 Countries

59 kBTransfer

107 kBSize

0 Cookies

2 Outgoing links

Redirected requests

9 HTTP transactions Everything HTML Script AJAX CSS Image Expand all 0 data transactions

Request headers

Response headers

Request headers

Response headers

Request headers

Response headers

Request headers

Response headers

Request headers

Response headers

Request headers

Response headers

Request headers

Response headers

Request headers

Response headers

Request headers

Response headers

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2 JavaScript Global Variables

0 Cookies

Indicators

dezembroliquidado.com Open in urlscan Pro
2606:4700:30::6818:7869 Malicious Activity! Public Scan

Screenshot
Live screenshot

Full Image

9
Requests

11 %
HTTPS

33 %
IPv6

3
Domains

3
Subdomains

3
IPs

2
Countries

59 kB
Transfer

107 kB
Size

0
Cookies

9 HTTP transactions
0 data transactions

Potentially malicious activity detected
Disclaimer: These verdicts should be used to detect potentially malicious websites, not as a final verdict!