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I locked my car only to return 4 hours later to find the windows halfway down
and the sun roof open. I spoke with Honda Customer Service and they were zero
help. They did advise that that on a page in the owner's manual was the
instruction of using the key fob and pushing the unlock button would let the
windows down. I never pressed the unlock button! I was told by a service manager
at dealership, that if you put the keys in your pocket or purse and something
presses against the buttons it will happen. Great, so everything, including the
car, can conveniently be stolen!! Anyone else have this happen?
 
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Hi Cocorebel - Yup, just happened to me last week. Both driver and passenger
windows were open 90% and the sunroof was open half way - happened during a
thunderstorm too, if all days. We just happened to figure out that it was the
key fob by a wild guess - without looking at the manual. Hold the unlock button
for about 5 to 7 seconds and sure enough it opened the windows and sunroof. To
boot, you can't close them in the same way, you have to put the keys in the
ignition to do that.... Not sure this is a feature so much as just an annoyance.
 
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Honda corporate office and dealership said there was no way to turn off this
feature. I should just be careful not to be key fob next to anything! If
anything of mine gets stolen or rain, there will be a lawsuit.
 
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> Yohonis said:
> Hi Cocorebel - Yup, just happened to me last week. Both driver and passenger
> windows were open 90% and the sunroof was open half way - happened during a
> thunderstorm too, if all days. We just happened to figure out that it was the
> key fob by a wild guess - without looking at the manual. Hold the unlock
> button for about 5 to 7 seconds and sure enough it opened the windows and
> sunroof. To boot, you can't close them in the same way, you have to put the
> keys in the ignition to do that.... Not sure this is a feature so much as just
> an annoyance.
> Click to expand...

Generally you have to press on the unlock button once and then press and hold
the second time for it to kick in. Getting that reversed only seems to work with
the actual key in the door lock locking the car. Unfortuantely no way to disable
it or at least to lock it all back up remotely, which is kind of odd.
 
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> the_dude said:
> Generally you have to press on the unlock button once and then press and hold
> the second time for it to kick in. Getting that reversed only seems to work
> with the actual key in the door lock locking the car. Unfortuantely no way to
> disable it or at least to lock it all back up remotely, which is kind of odd.
> Click to expand...

Unfortunately, I never pressed the unlock button. The keys were in my pants
pocket. The service manager said that probably my house key or the car key
pressed on the unlock button and that caused it to happen. I now hold the keys
in my hand until I am far enough away from the key for it not to happen. Honda
is very aware of this problem but has no intention of fixing it since it is in
the owner's manual.
 
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> cocorebel said:
> I locked my car only to return 4 hours later to find the windows halfway down
> and the sun roof open. I spoke with Honda Customer Service and they were zero
> help. They did advise that that on a page in the owner's manual was the
> instruction of using the key fob and pushing the unlock button would let the
> windows down. I never pressed the unlock button! I was told by a service
> manager at dealership, that if you put the keys in your pocket or purse and
> something presses against the buttons it will happen. Great, so everything,
> including the car, can conveniently be stolen!! Anyone else have this happen?
> Click to expand...

I hate this "feature". I can't believe people like it lol. I have found my
windows open several times. Luckily never in rain or snow.
 
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> slipjohn1 said:
> I hate this "feature". I can't believe people like it lol. I have found my
> windows open several times. Luckily never in rain or snow.
> Click to expand...

It can be useful to start cooling off the car a bit on a hot day as you are
getting close to it or standing nearby. Those days with remote start being a
better option for something like that it’s not all that useful. Either way
though, it would certainly be good to have the ability to disable it if desired.
 
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I cool with auto start and AC, but even if I didn't have that I'd hate this
feature. It's just too easy to open everything up. I'm constantly running to
check my windows if it's raining just be sure they're closed lol. I wish they
had a way of disabling it in the settings, then it's not so bad.
 
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> cocorebel said:
> I locked my car only to return 4 hours later to find the windows halfway down
> and the sun roof open. I spoke with Honda Customer Service and they were zero
> help. They did advise that that on a page in the owner's manual was the
> instruction of using the key fob and pushing the unlock button would let the
> windows down. I never pressed the unlock button! I was told by a service
> manager at dealership, that if you put the keys in your pocket or purse and
> something presses against the buttons it will happen. Great, so everything,
> including the car, can conveniently be stolen!! Anyone else have this happen?
> Click to expand...

I bought a used 2014 pilot almost a year ago. During the first week or two, a
few times, I noticed that when I went outside to get in my car, I noticed all
the windows were down about an inch. I thought it was odd but figured being
unfamiliar with the vehicle, I hit a button or something inside the car. Then I
was driving home during the rain, I noticed the sunroof panel inside was getting
wet. After I got out, I saw that the sunroof was slightly ajar. What I think I
figured out was that I was using the remote just like I did my prior vehicle
(Mercury Mountaineer) it seems like with the Pilot, if you press the unlock
button a second time and hold it slightly, it opens the windows and sunroof. I
was rather annoyed. The windows are one thing, but the sunroof? That is
something you might not notice for a while if the interior panel is closed.
 
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I agree that including sunroof in the auto-open feature is asinine but I like
this feature which I have in my Nissan minivan but not in the 1st gen Pilot.
 
Honda Pilot 2006 LX 4WD J35A9, bought May 2015 with 108,000 Kms / 67,000 miles.
Now 220,000 Kms/ 137,000 miles.
Maintenance so far: New aftermarket rad, New OEM PCV valve, New Costco battery,
New intake air duct, "Reman" Denso alternator from Amazon, cupro-nickel brake
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> cocorebel said:
> I locked my car only to return 4 hours later to find the windows halfway down
> and the sun roof open. I spoke with Honda Customer Service and they were zero
> help. They did advise that that on a page in the owner's manual was the
> instruction of using the key fob and pushing the unlock button would let the
> windows down. I never pressed the unlock button! I was told by a service
> manager at dealership, that if you put the keys in your pocket or purse and
> something presses against the buttons it will happen. Great, so everything,
> including the car, can conveniently be stolen!! Anyone else have this happen?
> Click to expand...

I had it happen once when I first got the 2010 Pilot. The dealer explained that
for emergency use if you hold down the window down button a few extra seconds
after the window is down it sends a signal to open all the windows and sunroof.
You can close everything the same way with the driver up button.
The key in your pocket only locks or unlocks the car or blows the horn alarm
accidently, sure that happens on any car if you have too many keys on the ring.
Maybe when you sit or squad another key will flip up and hit a button on the key
sending unit. I put the keys the pocket with the kleenexes, not the one with
change and misc items. No more issues.
 
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> JGtravelor said:
> I had it happen once when I first got the 2010 Pilot. The dealer explained
> that for emergency use if you hold down the window down button a few extra
> seconds after the window is down it sends a signal to open all the windows and
> sunroof. You can close everything the same way with the driver up button.
> The key in your pocket only locks or unlocks the car or blows the horn alarm
> accidently, sure that happens on any car if you have too many keys on the
> ring. Maybe when you sit or squad another key will flip up and hit a button on
> the key sending unit. I put the keys the pocket with the kleenexes, not the
> one with change and misc items. No more issues.
> Click to expand...

The keyfob can also open all windows (and sunroof), as described in some earlier
posts.

As far as opening or closing all windows from within the car, are you saying
that you can do all of that just with the single driver's window button?
 
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The reason they don't roll back up the same way is because Honda cheaped out on
the back windows. They don't have the automatic reverse feature, if the window
encounters an obstacle rolling back up. It could cause serious damage to a
person or pet, if you unwittingly closed the window on them from afar.
 
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> gmaghera said:
> The reason they don't roll back up the same way is because Honda cheaped out
> on the back windows. They don't have the automatic reverse feature, if the
> window encounters an obstacle rolling back up. It could cause serious damage
> to a person or pet, if you unwittingly closed the window on them from afar.
> Click to expand...

That would likely be at least part of it. Didn't realize that was the case with
the rear windows as I was under the impression that all windows had the
automatic reverse feature these days.
 
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My widows and sun roof open automatically everything I shut the door only way I
can stop this is to lock from inside before I shut the car door
 
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> Kifer said:
> My widows and sun roof open automatically everything I shut the door only way
> I can stop this is to lock from inside before I shut the car door
> Click to expand...

Every time
 
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> Kifer said:
> Every time
> Click to expand...

I can hear an electronic click when I swing the door
 
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> Kifer said:
> I can hear an electronic click when I swing the door
> Click to expand...

My passport windows have all started doing this on their own and nothing is
touching the key fob. The key fob sits in my drink holder by itself so nothing
is touching it. I turn off my car and 3 out of 5 times the windows go down on
their own. So I have to turn the car back on and put them all back up.
 
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> Jking5 said:
> My passport windows have all started doing this on their own and nothing is
> touching the key fob. The key fob sits in my drink holder by itself so nothing
> is touching it. I turn off my car and 3 out of 5 times the windows go down on
> their own. So I have to turn the car back on and put them all back up.
> Click to expand...

 
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Similar problem here, 2019 Pilot EX-L. The past two days I’ve got home (in my
company truck) and the Pilot was fine, but a few hours later I go outside and
the windows and sunroof are partly open. The keys has been hung up in the house,
nobody touched them. I was wondering if maybe someone else on my street has a
remote that’s keyed the same, is that a possibility?
 
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