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use the following search parameters to narrow your results:</div>
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<dt style="font-weight:700;display:block;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;">url:<i style="font-style:italic;">text</i></dt>
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<dt style="font-weight:700;display:block;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;">selftext:<i style="font-style:italic;">text</i></dt>
<dd style="display:block;margin-bottom:0px;margin-inline-start:20px;margin-left:20px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;">search for "text" in self post contents</dd>
<dt style="font-weight:700;display:block;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;">self:yes (or self:no)</dt>
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<dt style="font-weight:700;display:block;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;">nsfw:yes (or nsfw:no)</dt>
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e.g. <code style="font-family:monospace, monospace;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;">subreddit:aww site:imgur.com dog</code></div>
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A catharsis for the frustrated moral philosopher in all of us, and a place to finally find out if you were wrong in a real-world argument that's been bothering you. Tell us about any non-violent conflict you have experienced; give us both
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<a href="https://archive.fo/o/NG3bf/https://al-anon.org/" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(0, 121, 211);cursor:pointer;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;text-decoration-color:rgb(0, 121, 211);text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-thickness:auto;">https://al-anon.org/</a>
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Voting Guide</h1>
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In your top level comment be sure to include one abbreviation for your judgment, i.e.</div>
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<strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:600;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;">YTA</strong> = You're the Asshole; </div>
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<strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:600;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;">YWBTA</strong> = You Would Be the Asshole;</div>
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<strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:600;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;">NTA</strong> = Not the A-hole; </div>
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<strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:600;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;">YWNBTA</strong> = You Would Not be the Asshole;</div>
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<strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:600;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;">ESH</strong> = Everyone Sucks here;</div>
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<strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:600;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;">NAH</strong> = No A-holes here; </div>
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<strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:600;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;">INFO</strong> = Not Enough Info </div>
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<strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:600;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;">Rules</strong></h1>
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1. Be Civil</h2>
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Attack ideas, not people. The purpose of this sub is to determine and explain who is in the wrong, not to eviscerate anyone. Treat others with respect while helping them grow through outside perspectives. Derogatory or dehumanizing language,
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Be respectful. Be nice. Don't be an asshole.</div>
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2. Voting Rules</h2>
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Upvote posts that make for an interesting discussion. <strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:600;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;">DON'T</strong> downvote if you think OP is an asshole. <strong
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Don't participate in threads you have found through crossposts and links outside of this subreddit. In this sub, your comment is a vote. Brigading/Vote manipulation is against Reddit site wide rules. <strong
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3. Accept Your Judgment</h2>
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This sub is here for the submitter to discover what everyone else thinks of the ethics or mores of a situation. It is not here to draw people into an argument you want to have, or to defend your position. If people start saying you were the
asshole, do not take that as an invitation to debate them on the subject... accept the judgment and move on. If you have valid reason to think a commenter needs more information or misunderstood the facts of the conflict, you may give new
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4. Never Delete An Active Discussion</h2>
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DO NOT delete your submission once a discussion has begun. Your post must stay up for <strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:600;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;">at least 48 hours</strong>. We
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5. No Violence</h2>
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If your post or comment references violence, don't share it here. Any hint, mention, euphemism or suggestion of violence falls under this rule and isn't allowed.</div>
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Comments and even jokes about violence are not tolerated. Encouraging self-harm, suicide, "bad karma," property damage, food tampering, or anything that wishes mental or physical pain on anyone is strictly prohibited. <strong
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6. How To Post</h2>
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The TITLE of your submission must begin with the acronym AITA or WIBTA (would I be the asshole?), then a description of the situation.</div>
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Posts are limited to 3000 characters. Paragraphs are good; block text walls are bad. Format and punctuate your post reasonably. Be clear and concise. Don't link to screenshots or other subreddits. If you can't explain yourself in one post,
without using external text pages, it does not belong here. Do not use someone else's account or a shared account.</div>
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7. Post Interpersonal Conflicts</h2>
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Posts should be descriptions of recent interpersonal conflicts. Describe both sides in detail. Make it clear why you may be "the asshole."</div>
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Submissions must contain a real-life conflict between you and at least one other person. They should not be about feelings, opinions, or desires. If your conflict is with a larger demographic, an animal, someone online, a business, or a third
party who’s irrelevant to the main question but thought what you did sucked, your post will be removed.</div>
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8. No Shitposts</h2>
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Posts must be truthful and presented as fairly and accurately as possible. Posts must be written by you, from your point of view. Do not post on behalf of others, or from the point of view of another person in the story.</div>
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This is not a humor sub. This isn't a sub for copypastas, satire, overly embellished stories, or creative writing exercises.</div>
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Shitposting will result in a permanent ban.</div>
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9. Do Not Ask For Advice</h2>
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This is NOT an advice sub. All submissions that ask for advice (instead of or in addition to judgment) will be removed. This sub is for arbitration.</div>
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You may include advice when you make your comments, but remember that your primary objective in commenting is to assign blame and pass judgment.</div>
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If a thread's focus becomes about advice instead of arbitration the thread may be removed regardless of the OP's intent.</div>
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10. Updates and META posts are restricted</h2>
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Posts dedicated to discussing AITA should be directed to the monthly open forum. Any META posts will be removed & may result in a ban.</div>
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Update posts require approval. This includes any post that references another post, including posting the other perspective. Review the
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for more info. Unapproved updates will result in a ban.</div>
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This is not a saga or diary sub. Excessive posting will result in a warning or ban.</div>
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11. No Partings/Relationship/Sex/Reproductive Autonomy Posts</h2>
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We do not allow posts where the central conflict is about familial or platonic partings, relationships, and/or reproductive autonomy.</div>
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The following posts are forever banned:</div>
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AITA for breaking up with/ghosting/cutting contact with _ (or not)</div>
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AITA for dating _ (or not)</div>
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AITA for doing sexual act _ (or not)</div>
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AITA for being attracted to _ (or not)</div>
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Any reproductive autonomy decision</div>
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Any posts related to cheating- including "telling on" someone for cheating (or not).</div>
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12. This Is Not A Debate Sub</h2>
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If judgment is primarily motivated by whether commenters agree with your stance on a broad issue it is not appropriate for this sub. This includes anything from politically motivated conflicts to innocuous issues like if cake is better than
pie. If you're ultimately asking if it is okay to kick someone off your team for their sexual identity, stop talking to your friend because they vape, or any similar debate, your post will be removed.</div>
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No starting off topic debates about marginalized groups</div>
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13. No Revenge Stories</h2>
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There are many subreddits for sharing tales of revenge—this is not one of them. This is a sub for providing feedback on interpersonal conflict, not for endorsing how you escalate a conflict. If you're here to tell us how you punished someone
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14. No Medical Conflicts</h2>
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AITA is a platform for moral judgment, not medical advice. The life and death consequences of many medical conflicts are well outside of Reddit's paygrade. We do not allow posts where the central conflict is transmitting or contracting any
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<a href="https://archive.fo/o/NG3bf/https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/search?q=flair:Not+the+A-hole&restrict_sr=on&sort=new&t=all" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(0, 121, 211);cursor:pointer;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;text-decoration-color:rgb(0, 121, 211);text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-thickness:auto;">Not Assholes</a>
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<a href="https://archive.fo/o/NG3bf/https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/search?q=flair:update&restrict_sr=on&sort=new&t=all" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(0, 121, 211);cursor:pointer;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;text-decoration-color:rgb(0, 121, 211);text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-thickness:auto;">Updates</a>
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<a href="https://archive.fo/o/NG3bf/https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/search?q=flair:Everyone+Sucks&restrict_sr=on&sort=new&t=all" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(0, 121, 211);cursor:pointer;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;text-decoration-color:rgb(0, 121, 211);text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-thickness:auto;">Everyone Sucks</a>
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<a href="https://archive.fo/o/NG3bf/https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/search?q=flair:No+A-holes+here&restrict_sr=on&sort=new&t=all" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(0, 121, 211);cursor:pointer;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;text-decoration-color:rgb(0, 121, 211);text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-thickness:auto;">No A-holes Here</a>
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<a href="https://archive.fo/o/NG3bf/https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/search?q=flair:talk&restrict_sr=on&sort=new&t=all" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(0, 121, 211);cursor:pointer;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;text-decoration-color:rgb(0, 121, 211);text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-thickness:auto;">Talks</a>
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I’m a professor, and one of the classes I’m teaching this year is a seminar-based literature class. There’s one student in this class that always stood out as absolutely brilliant to me; he doesn’t talk an immense amount, but every time he
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The big assignment for the class is a 10-page paper, written about anything we covered in the class. I was quite looking forward to that one student’s paper, and he delivered, writing arguably the best paper in the class. </div>
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A week after papers were turned in, I received a report from another student that he had plagiarized the paper, alongside a link to the paper he allegedly plagiarized from. I read the paper, and it was indubitably true, because while he
didn’t use the same wording, a lot of the logic and arguments he used in his paper were identical and cited the same exact passages. </div>
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However, he didn’t just plagiarize it in a 1:1 ratio. Rather, he used the arguments presenting in the other paper as a logical foundation, and then developed upon them in a new and unique way. Hence, while he should’ve cited that source, he
clearly had original work, and thus I didn’t feel it was a horrible offense. </div>
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Given I’m both the professor and the head of the department, disciplinary measures are under my purview, but I decided to let him go, because I felt he did do sufficiently original work in the paper and was otherwise brilliant. He was set to
graduate with honors, and I don’t want to ruin that. </div>
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The student that reported him confronted me later, saying he wasn’t punished and so I’m TA for letting him graduate. I don’t think I am, but I’m curious what reddit thinks.</div>
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I decided to let a student get away with plagiarism because I felt he had produced sufficiently unique work regardless. This could make me TA because another student thinks I should’ve punished him instead of letting him graduate</div>
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I'd say YTA. It's gross when you find out how unevenly the rules are applied in higher education, even though you know it happens all the time</div>
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To clarify, if it was any other student with the same circumstance, as in generally doing well in the class, producing original and profound work regardless, and being set to graduate, I’d let them get away with it too.</div>
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Point being, I’m not applying the rules unevenly.</div>
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OP as a professor and department head, I’m assuming you’ve had to do unconscious bias trainings since those have been big the last several years. </div>
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Keeping in mind what they told you in those trainings, do you really believe that you are capable of applying the rules evenly when you put yourself in a position to make character judgements? You don’t think you have any biases on some level
that might impact whether or not you give a student the benefit of the doubt? You don’t think you’re susceptible to any of the messaging from society at large about who’s a hard worker and who’s not, about what kind of people have integrity?
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I’m not arguing you’re willfully playing favorites. But it is important that you realize that when you make it a subjective assessment, one which you make unilaterally, it is virtually impossible to apply the rules evenly and equitably.</div>
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See, it’s interesting to advance arguments of unconscious bias, both because compelling evidence may exist, and also because it’s nigh impossible to disprove. I will present empiric evidence, however: throughout the years, I’ve let minor
infractions slide, even from students that I’ve disliked or had low personal opinions on, because I believe everybody deserves a second chance.</div>
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I mean, you definitely are, but as long as you're convinced you're being fair and balanced when it comes to your generous and fluid interpretation of your institution's rules, that's what matters :)</div>
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You’re right. It doesn’t really matter whether others think I’m being TA or not, only whether I do.</div>
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YTA</div>
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<strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:600;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;">DID he correctly cite the source paper the other student found as literature?</strong> Since the other student had to send it
to you, that's unlikely.</div>
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So: <strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:600;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;">If not, you are an AH, and the student should report YOU to the dean and threaten to make this public.</strong> YOu are
an AH for playing favorites and dropping all professional standards for a student you prefer.</div>
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Did you make him aware that he didn't cite correctly? Assuming it was an oversight, as a prof you should bring it to his attention. His next prof may not be so forgiving.</div>
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Yes, I did, in case he pursues grad school.</div>
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I would do the same for any student in the same circumstances, and have done so in the past. The Dean is aware of this, but given I have tenure, there’s not much he can do about it. And no, he did not cite the paper.</div>
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"And no, he did not cite the paper." </div>
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So: your uni is a shitty place of pretense education, because plagiarism is openly approved of when it is someone the professors like.</div>
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Why don't you pist your name and the paper and the uni here, so we can make the plagiarism you condoned public knowledge?</div>
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Not a matter of favoritism, as I said I’ve done so in the past and will do so in similar circumstances. As for naming myself, I will not, but I will say this happened at Dartmouth College.</div>
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Dartmouth College.</div>
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So you hide YOUR name, but ahave no problem of besmirching that college's name?</div>
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YOu certainly sound fake.</div>
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Nothing besmirched, having non draconian professors is a good thing.</div>
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Despite not seeing eye to eye... perhaps you should remove the college name. If you are the Department Head, you've just doxxed yourself.</div>
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The Dean is aware of this, but given I have tenure, there’s not much he can do about it.</div>
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What a telling sentence. Just flagrantly flaunting your biased standards and going "screw the rules, I have tenure!" YTA in spades.</div>
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It’s more about the fact I have ethics. My tenure simply allows me to act on them.</div>
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What ethics? From everything you've commented, I really don't see any sign of them.</div>
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Plagiarism. Any form of plagiarism violates the Academic Honor Principle. Plagiarism is defined as the submission or presentation of work, in any form, that is not a student's own, without acknowledgment of the source. With specific
regard to papers, a simple rule dictates when it is necessary to acknowledge sources. If a student obtains information or ideas from an outside source, that source must be acknowledged.</div>
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Directly quoted from Dartmouth College policy.</div>
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So? Rules don’t dictate ethics.</div>
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The ethics that tell me a single mistake shouldn’t compromise an otherwise stellar student’s career. Mercy, in other words.</div>
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That is on the basis that this is the first time this student has done this that you are aware of. I am guessing the college does not use Turnitin or similar ways of identifying plagiarism. It just seems you are applying your own set of
principles, which seems unethical. This unequivocally leads to bias and skewed judgement.</div>
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It does use plagiarism detectors, yes. As for applying my own set of principles, there’s nothing wrong with it as long as it’s applied equally in all cases the offender meets certain benchmarks</div>
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because I felt he did do sufficiently original work in the paper</div>
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Consult with your peers. If you felt it was enough to pass it, maybe it was enough. If not, then you shouldn't. When it comes to final projects/dissertations etc I'd expect an amount of guidance an oversight. I'm guessing it differs from
subject to subject and country to country on how much is provided. It seems none was here.</div>
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Reddit shouldn't be the decider on whether you did right or wrong here, your peers will give you a correct answer.</div>
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Fair enough. Thank you for the suggestion.</div>
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YTA - It sounds like you have been biased due to already favouring the student, and your post makes it sound like you are trying to justify their actions. Had this been a student you did not favour, would you have done the same?</div>
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If the circumstance were the same, as in their paper still had significant original content, they otherwise performed well, and they were set to graduate, yes, I’d chalk it up to a lapse in judgement and let them graduate. Academics are
stressful so I can’t find it in myself to blame somebody for doing this.</div>
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Again, saying academics are stressful just sounds like you are trying to justify their actions. I have been there, and everyone wants to take shortcuts. You are putting yourself and your job at risk by allowing it when you were made aware of
the situation and have not acted. Plagiarism is plagiarism.</div>
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Not particularly, I’ve done similar things in the past and given I have tenure, there’s not much that can be done about it</div>
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I'm not sure why this post exists. You are saying you are not the asshole and you have done this before, so you already believe you are justified.</div>
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You’re right, it doesn’t really matter whether anybody else thinks I’m TA.</div>
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YTA - Ethically bankrupt. And I love how further down, you just say "oh well, I have tenure", really a class act.</div>
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My ethics in this case are that making one minor mistake in another otherwise stellar performance shouldn’t cause him to not graduate.</div>
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So you're saying, in short, that your ethics are compromised since you don't apply the rules for academic dishonesty as they should be because you feel otherwise.</div>
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Compromised in whose eyes? Yours? Sure. In mine, or those of the people I gave a second chance instead of being draconian? No.</div>
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And also happy to throw out tenure as a nice little shield as to any repercussions you face. Really setting the bar high for Dartmouth's academic integrity.</div>
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That's the problem with compromised ethics. Now yours can't be trusted anymore. </div>
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And if you are so convinced you are right, why are you even here?</div>
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Once again, I don’t particularly find my ethics compromised, rather I think mine is the best policy. You’re right that in that case it’s worthless to post here.</div>
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Carry on being a lazy, ethically broken professor. I'd hope something happens to correct you, but sadly, the system will protect you and you'll continue to allow favored students to skip by.</div>
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I let those that deserve it get reprieves for mistakes, whether they’re favored or not.</div>
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Are they plagiarizing</div>
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In some cases, yes.</div>
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", I don’t particularly find my ethics compromised, " .. there obviousy are none to compromize.</div>
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NTA. I'm an adjunct, and the only thing I would have done differently is I would have marked him down for not doing the citation correctly....</div>
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Yeah, that’s entirely fair.</div>
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It's complicated. At one place I adjunct, we have strict rules and yet are also told to judge using our own discretion. </div>
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A lot of kids, especially from low performing high schools, were simply never taught how to properly use MLA/Chicago Style/etc. So I always try and keep that in mind....</div>
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And imo there's a vast difference between obvious plagiarism and something like your student did (which yes, is technically plagiarism, but a different animal of sorts).</div>
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Absolutely. There are a lot of comments in this thread this view this situation in incredibly black-and-white terms as per the rules, but our experience tells us there’s a lot of gray area where we need to use our own discretion.</div>
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YTA I'm pretty sure plagiarism at least warrants failing him on that assignment. I'm an English major, and this would've gotten me thrown out of the class, if not worse.</div>
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The assignment was stellar, and at least 75% his own work, so I thought that warranted a good grade.</div>
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But it's an ethics violation...</div>
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Not by my ethics.</div>
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I'm sure your university has a standard or guideline. If not, good for you, but I suspect you've violated a policy.</div>
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Yes, I have violated a policy, but rules don’t dictate morality, no?</div>
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YTA - its unfair to all the other students who did bother to do the actual work.</div>
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They’re not graded on a curve, so they’re not negatively impacted by him getting a good grade. Plus, I think it’s a show of intelligence that should be rewarded to <em
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Oh please! You just like his paper more than the original work because you find this student sooo thoughtful and brilliant and even dreamy with how his mind works.</div>
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But that doesn't make it NOT plagiarism! YTA in spades!</div>
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Sure, it is plagiarism. But I don’t see that as a punishable offense</div>
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YTA. Partial plagiarism is still plagiarism. It doesn't matter that there is original content as well. The presence of unattributed source material is the issue. It is troubling to me that you don't know this. </div>
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Moreover, you seem to be playing favorites with this student and abusing your authority to do so. The student who confronted you has a legitimate grievance in that regard.</div>
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If you didn't want to derail your pet student's ability to graduate with honors, is there another sanction that you could have applied rather than simply letting him get away with dishonesty?</div>
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My college has very draconian measures when it comes to plagiarism, so my hands were essentially tied: either let him go or let him suffer disproportionate consequences.</div>
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I'm sorry that you lacked any discretion, and I don't fault you for having this student's best interests at heart. It still isn't ethically sound though.</div>
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Why do you think so? I think my students’ welfare is my biggest ethical concern here.</div>
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"Students" is the operative word here. You did what you thought was best for this student, which, in a vacuum, is admirable. Doing so was a slap in the face of the student who reported him and wasn't exactly fair to the other students who
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How so? They aren’t graded on a curve, so his good grade doesn’t negatively impact anybody else</div>
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YTA - this is discretionary yes, but you said yourself that he should've cited the sources.</div>
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Yes, a mistake was made, but I don’t think, in light of his class performances and his upcoming graduation, it’s enough of one to deny him his graduation</div>
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I am lost. It is either original or plagiarized. How can it be both?</div>
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I believe it is an original essay with uncited sources. Despite the majority of the writing being original, uncited sources makes it academic plagiarism.</div>
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Even using uncited ideas/arguments taken from another source is
<a href="https://archive.fo/o/NG3bf/https://plagiarism.org/article/what-is-plagiarism" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(0, 121, 211);cursor:pointer;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;text-decoration-color:rgb(0, 121, 211);text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-thickness:auto;">plagiarism</a>
in the academic sense.</div>
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He did plagiarize in the sense he didn’t cite the paper he drew from, but he didn’t just copy that paper and call it a day. Rather, he drew from arguments made from it and used it as a logical foundation to make further arguments that were
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YTA because you've rewarded him for deceiving. The assignments were individual work, so for another student to know that he plagiarized, your "quiet" student must have boasted. He must have boasted again after final grades were given out.
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It's worse in a way that he developed the arguments further without citing the original as it would have been easy for him to reference it, but instead he wanted 100% of the credit. You should ask the other lecturers to do a plagiarism search
on his other assignments. If it's a pattern he should be stripped of his honours. He should be anyway. </div>
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You're playing unethical favorites. It's OK that he cheats because he contributed good insights in class. It's ok if you rob a bank because you always paid your taxes on time. </div>
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If it was any other student than your favourite, would you have let them off free? If I was the student who told you about it, I would lodge a formal complaint about you and go to the media. I helped a fellow student complain about a cheating
well known lecturer before and he was unemployed soon after.</div>
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Absolutely I would and have done so in the past, because I would not deny a student the opportunity to graduate just because of a singular mistake. Complaints were made, but given I have tenure nothing was ever able to be done.</div>
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It's not a "mistake". Plagiarism is a deliberate act. And it seems he's boasted about it. </div>
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How do you know it's a singular act and not a repeat act? Or did you assume it's a one off because you like him? </div>
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You really should ask the other lecturers to double-check his other work. Ask the university standards board and ethics centre for advice, not an internet forum (ie learn better judgement yourself so you can model it for students) </div>
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Did you even say anything to him? Did you make him write a new paper 100% his own work?</div>
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How do you think the way you handle that is fair to the other students? YTAx100! (and I often vote NTA against the crowd.)</div>
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It's not a "mistake". Plagiarism is a deliberate act</div>
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Not necessarily. If a student forgets to cite a paper, despite their intentions that counts as plagiarism as much as if they fully intended to plagiarize.</div>
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How do you know it's a singular act and not a repeat act? Or did you assume it's a one off because you like him?</div>
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Because I’m the head of the department that he’s majoring in, and so any suspected plagiarism would’ve had to be reported to me. It hasn’t been.</div>
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You really should ask the other lecturers to double-check his other work. </div>
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Fair enough.</div>
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Did you even say anything to him? Did you make him write a new paper 100% his own work?</div>
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Yes, no</div>
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How do you think the way you handle that is fair to the other students?</div>
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Because his grade has nothing to do with the grades of other students. They’re not graded on a curve.</div>
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Actually, I thought when I read this, you were having a guilty conscience about your actions. Turns out you don't and don't really care about it as you already believe you are justified. 10/10 would not comment again.</div>
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YTA </div>
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Your policy and standards on plagiarism need to apply across the board. There is no room for playing favorites when it comes to academic policy. </div>
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He did plagiarize, indubitably, in your own words. But because you feel favorably towards him and enjoy the way he participates in discussions, you’ve decided this student shouldn’t be held to the same standard as everyone else. </div>
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If you would have punished the student who generally annoys you for pulling this stunt, the students who you enjoy need to be held to the same standards of accountability.</div>
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I would not have punished the student who generally annoys me for this, no. In the past when students have generally done well and have a lot at stake, I prefer to give them a reprieve instead of ruining their lives over a single mistake
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Maybe you should have asked him to redo the assignment with the source he used and advise him to use more than one.</div>
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I will give YTA. I understand he is a good studant, but is your role to advise him better.</div>
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Perhaps, but his paper was already stellar as it was.</div>
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You are a huge AH and I hope approving of plagiarism violates your tenure.</div>
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It does not, I’ve been there and done that before and I’m still here</div>
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There is so much delusion and self importance in this post it blows my mind. You clearly think you are really smart and know better than everyone else. The rules don't apply to you. One of the more disgusting posts I've seen on this sub.
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The rules regarding plagiarism are extremely draconian and shouldn’t apply to <em style="font-style:italic;font-weight:400;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:0px;">anybody</em>. I’m just doing my small part in that,
that’s all.</div>
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Intentionally? Because this is different.</div>
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It's academic misconduct on the student's part and should be professional misconduct on yours. This shows a huge gap in your own understanding of plagiarism as a professor and department head. That you didn't think it was so bad because they
"just" copied the ideas not the words is incredible. In the literal sense, impossible to believe. </div>
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I think, you allowed this student to pass because you are biased. I hope the student who confronted you makes their case to the Dean or whatever board handles these matters at your institution.</div>
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You misunderstand. I think his paper is valid not because he reworked the wording, but that the ideas he took weren’t his entire paper but rather just the basis he built his own compelling ideas off of</div>
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So he plagiarized just a little? even if he reworked the wording and the ideas did not make up his entire paper he still should have cited the original work.</div>
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It’s possible, there’s no way to know whether he simply forgot to cite it or if he plagiarized on purpose. Either way, I think given the majority of the work was original and his performance in general is stellar, he deserves some leeway.
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Your words</div>
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I read the paper, and it was indubitably true, because while he didn’t use the same wording, a lot of the logic and arguments he used in his paper were identical and cited the same exact passages.</div>
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I think it is possible to know and I think you DO know but now are trying to justify it in your head. What's the normal policy at your institution when it comes to academic integrity and did you follow that? I'm having a really hard time
reconciling the fact that a department head does not have a basic understanding of plagiarism because despite your words it falls squarely within that. </div>
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No one deserves leeway for just committing a little cheating instead of 100% cheating. Be serious.</div>
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As I said previously, you misunderstand. I’m saying the paper itself is majority not plagiarized, not talking about that section specifically. </div>
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As for knowing, I know that he drew from the paper, I don’t know if he meant to cite it or not. Thus, and because the vast majority of his paper is original, I don’t find it justified to punish him, which would be failing the class at least.
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As for leeway, of course they do. Not just him, but anybody does for a simple mistake.</div>
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I don't believe I misunderstand but you didn't give any indication what normal policy is. Is this something that is to be handled with discretion? Reported to a specific person, like this student's advisor? For all you know they've had issues
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You do, because your initial claim was that I’m claiming it’s not plagiarism due to him rewording things, which is not at all what I’m saying. As for normal policy: as I said, failing the class at minimum. Regarding plagiarism, as the head of
the department that he’s majoring in, I know it’s never been an issue.</div>
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Info: so was it plagiarism or not? Were he allowed to use outside sources? What's the due process for checking if something is plagiarism? </div>
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Can't really answer as it's more of a professional question, and it's totally depends on if it's really was acceptable work or not. </div>
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At the very least I think he should lose some points for not citing his sources.</div>
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Technically yes. It’s possible that he simply forgot, it’s also possible he tried to get away with plagiarism on purpose. Either way, I felt he had enough original content to not pursue this further</div>
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NTA. You're the one who decides whether the failure to cite was substantial plagiarism. You decided it wasn't. You should have warned the original student of his fault in failure to cite, though.</div>
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Yes, if it was completely plagiarized it would be one thing. But using another paper’s arguments essentially as a logical foundation to build off of is entirely different.</div>
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English isn’t my first language. </div>
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I’m a professor, and one of the classes I’m teaching this year is a seminar-based literature class. There’s one student in this class that always stood out as absolutely brilliant to me; he doesn’t talk an immense amount, but every time he
does he drops a metaphorical bomb on the conversation that completely reframes it in everybody’s mind. In essence, he acts as a catalyst, and all in all he’s a pleasure to have in class. </div>
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The big assignment for the class is a 10-page paper, written about anything we covered in the class. I was quite looking forward to that one student’s paper, and he delivered, writing arguably the best paper in the class. </div>
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A week after papers were turned in, I received a report from another student that he had plagiarized the paper, alongside a link to the paper he allegedly plagiarized from. I read the paper, and it was indubitably true, because while he
didn’t use the same wording, a lot of the logic and arguments he used in his paper were identical and cited the same exact passages. </div>
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However, he didn’t just plagiarize it in a 1:1 ratio. Rather, he used the arguments presenting in the other paper as a logical foundation, and then developed upon them in a new and unique way. Hence, while he should’ve cited that source, he
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Given I’m both the professor and the head of the department, disciplinary measures are under my purview, but I decided to let him go, because I felt he did do sufficiently original work in the paper and was otherwise brilliant. He was set to
graduate with honors, and I don’t want to ruin that. </div>
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The student that reported him confronted me later, saying he wasn’t punished and so I’m TA for letting him graduate. I don’t think I am, but I’m curious what reddit thinks.</div>
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It’s not apparent in the original post that this is your standard policy, but you make that clear in the comments. I think showing some leniency about first-time plagiarism is good, provided that your inform the student of their error, make
sure they learn their lesson, and have the same consequences for all students. </div>
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I wouldn’t necessarily go so far as filing whole formal report/giving a 0 on the assignment, but I would probably dock a nominal amount of points off the assignment and require the student to (a) go back a rewrite/cite properly, and (b)
complete a short written assignment about academic integrity and citation. I’d also probably try scare the kid a little about what will happen if this occurs again to try and prevent a recurrence.</div>
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That’s entirely fair. I did dock him some points, but even then it ended up being an A (90% exactly) because of the quality of the paper and did let him know the reasoning behind that.</div>
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NTA because</div>
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used the arguments presenting in the other paper as a logical foundation, and then developed upon them in a new and unique way. Hence, while he should’ve cited that source, he clearly had original work,</div>
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But you should still have a conversation with him to ensure he understands citing and references. This becomes critical if he intends to stay in academics or otherwise contribute to publications in the future. </div>
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The student that reported him confronted me later, saying he wasn’t punished and so I’m TA for letting him graduate.</div>
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You should have had a follow up with the student. Meaning, reassure the student that the matter was handled appropriately. Thank them for their diligence and integrity. But they're not entitled to more than that. Ie. They don't need to know
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Thank you for the advice. I will have the recommended conversation with the student that reported the plagiarism.</div>
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I feel like an odd ball bc I feel like you’re NTA.. as long as there was a substantial change between the papers and you talked to the person about not doing anything of the sort in the future (if there even is future education for this
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I feel like the actual point of the assignment was to see if you could have ideas about the subject matter and information that are unique to yourself and as long as that criteria was met, he passed the assignment</div>
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That’s exactly how I see it as well. Given that he didn’t plagiarize it entirely and instead made several good and original points, he entirely demonstrated what he was supposed to.</div>
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AITA for not penalizing a student for plagiarism? (self.AmItheAsshole)
submitted an hour ago by Key-Kaleidoscope6312
English isn’t my first language.
I’m a professor, and one of the classes I’m teaching this year is a
seminar-based literature class. There’s one student in this class that always
stood out as absolutely brilliant to me; he doesn’t talk an immense amount, but
every time he does he drops a metaphorical bomb on the conversation that
completely reframes it in everybody’s mind. In essence, he acts as a catalyst,
and all in all he’s a pleasure to have in class.
The big assignment for the class is a 10-page paper, written about anything we
covered in the class. I was quite looking forward to that one student’s paper,
and he delivered, writing arguably the best paper in the class.
A week after papers were turned in, I received a report from another student
that he had plagiarized the paper, alongside a link to the paper he allegedly
plagiarized from. I read the paper, and it was indubitably true, because while
he didn’t use the same wording, a lot of the logic and arguments he used in his
paper were identical and cited the same exact passages.
However, he didn’t just plagiarize it in a 1:1 ratio. Rather, he used the
arguments presenting in the other paper as a logical foundation, and then
developed upon them in a new and unique way. Hence, while he should’ve cited
that source, he clearly had original work, and thus I didn’t feel it was a
horrible offense.
Given I’m both the professor and the head of the department, disciplinary
measures are under my purview, but I decided to let him go, because I felt he
did do sufficiently original work in the paper and was otherwise brilliant. He
was set to graduate with honors, and I don’t want to ruin that.
The student that reported him confronted me later, saying he wasn’t punished and
so I’m TA for letting him graduate. I don’t think I am, but I’m curious what
reddit thinks.
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[–]ShitsuriSupreme Court Just-ass [143] 16 points17 points18 points an hour
ago (7 children)
I'd say YTA. It's gross when you find out how unevenly the rules are applied in
higher education, even though you know it happens all the time
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] comment score below threshold-14 points-13 points-12
points 1 hour ago (6 children)
To clarify, if it was any other student with the same circumstance, as in
generally doing well in the class, producing original and profound work
regardless, and being set to graduate, I’d let them get away with it too.
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[–]ShitsuriSupreme Court Just-ass [143] 0 points1 point2 points 1 hour ago (5
children)
Alrighty
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] comment score below threshold-11 points-10 points-9
points 1 hour ago (4 children)
Point being, I’m not applying the rules unevenly.
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[–]JustheBeanSupreme Court Just-ass [107] [score hidden] 47 minutes ago (1
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OP as a professor and department head, I’m assuming you’ve had to do unconscious
bias trainings since those have been big the last several years.
Keeping in mind what they told you in those trainings, do you really believe
that you are capable of applying the rules evenly when you put yourself in a
position to make character judgements? You don’t think you have any biases on
some level that might impact whether or not you give a student the benefit of
the doubt? You don’t think you’re susceptible to any of the messaging from
society at large about who’s a hard worker and who’s not, about what kind of
people have integrity?
I’m not arguing you’re willfully playing favorites. But it is important that you
realize that when you make it a subjective assessment, one which you make
unilaterally, it is virtually impossible to apply the rules evenly and
equitably.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] comment score below threshold[score hidden] 43
minutes ago (0 children)
See, it’s interesting to advance arguments of unconscious bias, both because
compelling evidence may exist, and also because it’s nigh impossible to
disprove. I will present empiric evidence, however: throughout the years, I’ve
let minor infractions slide, even from students that I’ve disliked or had low
personal opinions on, because I believe everybody deserves a second chance.
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[–]ShitsuriSupreme Court Just-ass [143] 5 points6 points7 points 1 hour ago (1
child)
I mean, you definitely are, but as long as you're convinced you're being fair
and balanced when it comes to your generous and fluid interpretation of your
institution's rules, that's what matters :)
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4
points 1 hour ago (0 children)
You’re right. It doesn’t really matter whether others think I’m being TA or not,
only whether I do.
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[–]Aggressive-Mind-2085Colo-rectal Surgeon [46] 12 points13 points14 points an
hour ago (17 children)
YTA
DID he correctly cite the source paper the other student found as literature?
Since the other student had to send it to you, that's unlikely.
So: If not, you are an AH, and the student should report YOU to the dean and
threaten to make this public. YOu are an AH for playing favorites and dropping
all professional standards for a student you prefer.
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[–]3kidsnomoney--- [score hidden] 52 minutes ago (1 child)
Did you make him aware that he didn't cite correctly? Assuming it was an
oversight, as a prof you should bring it to his attention. His next prof may not
be so forgiving.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 47 minutes ago (0 children)
Yes, I did, in case he pursues grad school.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4
points 1 hour ago (14 children)
I would do the same for any student in the same circumstances, and have done so
in the past. The Dean is aware of this, but given I have tenure, there’s not
much he can do about it. And no, he did not cite the paper.
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[–]Aggressive-Mind-2085Colo-rectal Surgeon [46] 9 points10 points11 points 1
hour ago (5 children)
"And no, he did not cite the paper."
So: your uni is a shitty place of pretense education, because plagiarism is
openly approved of when it is someone the professors like.
Why don't you pist your name and the paper and the uni here, so we can make the
plagiarism you condoned public knowledge?
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] comment score below threshold-8 points-7 points-6
points 1 hour ago (4 children)
Not a matter of favoritism, as I said I’ve done so in the past and will do so in
similar circumstances. As for naming myself, I will not, but I will say this
happened at Dartmouth College.
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[–]Aggressive-Mind-2085Colo-rectal Surgeon [46] 8 points9 points10 points 1 hour
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> Dartmouth College.
So you hide YOUR name, but ahave no problem of besmirching that college's name?
YOu certainly sound fake.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 57 minutes ago (2 children)
Nothing besmirched, having non draconian professors is a good thing.
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[–]Random-Trivia [score hidden] 5 minutes ago (0 children)
Despite not seeing eye to eye... perhaps you should remove the college name. If
you are the Department Head, you've just doxxed yourself.
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[–]teruhanaCertified Proctologist [25] 3 points4 points5 points 1 hour ago (7
children)
> The Dean is aware of this, but given I have tenure, there’s not much he can do
> about it.
What a telling sentence. Just flagrantly flaunting your biased standards and
going "screw the rules, I have tenure!" YTA in spades.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 55 minutes ago (6 children)
It’s more about the fact I have ethics. My tenure simply allows me to act on
them.
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[–]teruhanaCertified Proctologist [25] [score hidden] 49 minutes ago (5
children)
What ethics? From everything you've commented, I really don't see any sign of
them.
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[–]Gizaaaaaa [score hidden] 45 minutes ago (1 child)
Plagiarism. Any form of plagiarism violates the Academic Honor Principle.
Plagiarism is defined as the submission or presentation of work, in any form,
that is not a student's own, without acknowledgment of the source. With specific
regard to papers, a simple rule dictates when it is necessary to acknowledge
sources. If a student obtains information or ideas from an outside source, that
source must be acknowledged.
Directly quoted from Dartmouth College policy.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 42 minutes ago (0 children)
So? Rules don’t dictate ethics.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 46 minutes ago (2 children)
The ethics that tell me a single mistake shouldn’t compromise an otherwise
stellar student’s career. Mercy, in other words.
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[–]Gizaaaaaa [score hidden] 36 minutes ago (1 child)
That is on the basis that this is the first time this student has done this that
you are aware of. I am guessing the college does not use Turnitin or similar
ways of identifying plagiarism. It just seems you are applying your own set of
principles, which seems unethical. This unequivocally leads to bias and skewed
judgement.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 34 minutes ago (0 children)
It does use plagiarism detectors, yes. As for applying my own set of principles,
there’s nothing wrong with it as long as it’s applied equally in all cases the
offender meets certain benchmarks
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[–]Mr_Ham_Man80Supreme Court Just-ass [142] 10 points11 points12 points an hour
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> because I felt he did do sufficiently original work in the paper
Consult with your peers. If you felt it was enough to pass it, maybe it was
enough. If not, then you shouldn't. When it comes to final
projects/dissertations etc I'd expect an amount of guidance an oversight. I'm
guessing it differs from subject to subject and country to country on how much
is provided. It seems none was here.
Reddit shouldn't be the decider on whether you did right or wrong here, your
peers will give you a correct answer.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] 0 points1 point2 points an hour ago (0 children)
Fair enough. Thank you for the suggestion.
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[–]Gizaaaaaa 6 points7 points8 points an hour ago (5 children)
YTA - It sounds like you have been biased due to already favouring the student,
and your post makes it sound like you are trying to justify their actions. Had
this been a student you did not favour, would you have done the same?
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] -5 points-4 points-3 points an hour ago (4 children)
If the circumstance were the same, as in their paper still had significant
original content, they otherwise performed well, and they were set to graduate,
yes, I’d chalk it up to a lapse in judgement and let them graduate. Academics
are stressful so I can’t find it in myself to blame somebody for doing this.
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[–]Gizaaaaaa 6 points7 points8 points an hour ago (3 children)
Again, saying academics are stressful just sounds like you are trying to justify
their actions. I have been there, and everyone wants to take shortcuts. You are
putting yourself and your job at risk by allowing it when you were made aware of
the situation and have not acted. Plagiarism is plagiarism.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] -5 points-4 points-3 points an hour ago (2 children)
Not particularly, I’ve done similar things in the past and given I have tenure,
there’s not much that can be done about it
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[–]Gizaaaaaa 6 points7 points8 points an hour ago (1 child)
I'm not sure why this post exists. You are saying you are not the asshole and
you have done this before, so you already believe you are justified.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points an hour ago (0 children)
You’re right, it doesn’t really matter whether anybody else thinks I’m TA.
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[–]Riposte12Asshole Aficionado [14] 7 points8 points9 points an hour ago (14
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YTA - Ethically bankrupt. And I love how further down, you just say "oh well, I
have tenure", really a class act.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points an hour ago (13 children)
My ethics in this case are that making one minor mistake in another otherwise
stellar performance shouldn’t cause him to not graduate.
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[–]Riposte12Asshole Aficionado [14] 6 points7 points8 points an hour ago (8
children)
So you're saying, in short, that your ethics are compromised since you don't
apply the rules for academic dishonesty as they should be because you feel
otherwise.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points an hour ago (7 children)
Compromised in whose eyes? Yours? Sure. In mine, or those of the people I gave a
second chance instead of being draconian? No.
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[–]Riposte12Asshole Aficionado [14] 4 points5 points6 points an hour ago (6
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And also happy to throw out tenure as a nice little shield as to any
repercussions you face. Really setting the bar high for Dartmouth's academic
integrity.
That's the problem with compromised ethics. Now yours can't be trusted anymore.
And if you are so convinced you are right, why are you even here?
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] an hour ago (5 children)
Once again, I don’t particularly find my ethics compromised, rather I think mine
is the best policy. You’re right that in that case it’s worthless to post here.
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[–]Riposte12Asshole Aficionado [14] [score hidden] 57 minutes ago (3 children)
Carry on being a lazy, ethically broken professor. I'd hope something happens to
correct you, but sadly, the system will protect you and you'll continue to allow
favored students to skip by.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 55 minutes ago (2 children)
I let those that deserve it get reprieves for mistakes, whether they’re favored
or not.
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[–]Slight-Bar-534Asshole Aficionado [17] [score hidden] 30 minutes ago (1 child)
Are they plagiarizing
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 27 minutes ago (0 children)
In some cases, yes.
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[–]Aggressive-Mind-2085Colo-rectal Surgeon [46] [score hidden] 53 minutes ago (0
children)
", I don’t particularly find my ethics compromised, " .. there obviousy are none
to compromize.
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[–]VioletDuck1 [score hidden] 59 minutes ago (3 children)
NTA. I'm an adjunct, and the only thing I would have done differently is I would
have marked him down for not doing the citation correctly....
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 57 minutes ago (2 children)
Yeah, that’s entirely fair.
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[–]VioletDuck1 [score hidden] 53 minutes ago (1 child)
It's complicated. At one place I adjunct, we have strict rules and yet are also
told to judge using our own discretion.
A lot of kids, especially from low performing high schools, were simply never
taught how to properly use MLA/Chicago Style/etc. So I always try and keep that
in mind....
And imo there's a vast difference between obvious plagiarism and something like
your student did (which yes, is technically plagiarism, but a different animal
of sorts).
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 46 minutes ago (0 children)
Absolutely. There are a lot of comments in this thread this view this situation
in incredibly black-and-white terms as per the rules, but our experience tells
us there’s a lot of gray area where we need to use our own discretion.
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[–]GroundbreakingTwo201Certified Proctologist [23] 5 points6 points7 points 1
hour ago (5 children)
YTA I'm pretty sure plagiarism at least warrants failing him on that assignment.
I'm an English major, and this would've gotten me thrown out of the class, if
not worse.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 hour ago (4 children)
The assignment was stellar, and at least 75% his own work, so I thought that
warranted a good grade.
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[–]GroundbreakingTwo201Certified Proctologist [23] 6 points7 points8 points 1
hour ago (3 children)
But it's an ethics violation...
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 57 minutes ago (2 children)
Not by my ethics.
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[–]GroundbreakingTwo201Certified Proctologist [23] [score hidden] 55 minutes
ago (1 child)
I'm sure your university has a standard or guideline. If not, good for you, but
I suspect you've violated a policy.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 54 minutes ago (0 children)
Yes, I have violated a policy, but rules don’t dictate morality, no?
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[–]cinderella3-drizella 6 points7 points8 points 1 hour ago (3 children)
YTA - its unfair to all the other students who did bother to do the actual work.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] comment score below threshold-10 points-9 points-8
points 1 hour ago (2 children)
They’re not graded on a curve, so they’re not negatively impacted by him getting
a good grade. Plus, I think it’s a show of intelligence that should be rewarded
to not do all the work and still produce a brilliant and original paper.
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[–]Striking-Newt-3024 [score hidden] 19 minutes ago (1 child)
Oh please! You just like his paper more than the original work because you find
this student sooo thoughtful and brilliant and even dreamy with how his mind
works.
But that doesn't make it NOT plagiarism! YTA in spades!
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 16 minutes ago (0 children)
Sure, it is plagiarism. But I don’t see that as a punishable offense
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[–]Wordcitect [score hidden] 38 minutes ago (5 children)
YTA. Partial plagiarism is still plagiarism. It doesn't matter that there is
original content as well. The presence of unattributed source material is the
issue. It is troubling to me that you don't know this.
Moreover, you seem to be playing favorites with this student and abusing your
authority to do so. The student who confronted you has a legitimate grievance in
that regard.
If you didn't want to derail your pet student's ability to graduate with honors,
is there another sanction that you could have applied rather than simply letting
him get away with dishonesty?
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 35 minutes ago (4 children)
My college has very draconian measures when it comes to plagiarism, so my hands
were essentially tied: either let him go or let him suffer disproportionate
consequences.
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[–]Wordcitect [score hidden] 27 minutes ago (3 children)
I'm sorry that you lacked any discretion, and I don't fault you for having this
student's best interests at heart. It still isn't ethically sound though.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 26 minutes ago (2 children)
Why do you think so? I think my students’ welfare is my biggest ethical concern
here.
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[–]Wordcitect [score hidden] 20 minutes ago (1 child)
"Students" is the operative word here. You did what you thought was best for
this student, which, in a vacuum, is admirable. Doing so was a slap in the face
of the student who reported him and wasn't exactly fair to the other students
who didn't cheat.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 17 minutes ago (0 children)
How so? They aren’t graded on a curve, so his good grade doesn’t negatively
impact anybody else
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[–]ThrowABanana24 3 points4 points5 points 1 hour ago (1 child)
YTA - this is discretionary yes, but you said yourself that he should've cited
the sources.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 hour ago (0 children)
Yes, a mistake was made, but I don’t think, in light of his class performances
and his upcoming graduation, it’s enough of one to deny him his graduation
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[–]aeroeagleACProfessor Emeritass [92] 3 points4 points5 points 1 hour ago (3
children)
I am lost. It is either original or plagiarized. How can it be both?
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[–]teruhanaCertified Proctologist [25] 2 points3 points4 points 1 hour ago (1
child)
I believe it is an original essay with uncited sources. Despite the majority of
the writing being original, uncited sources makes it academic plagiarism.
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[–]Random-Trivia [score hidden] 39 minutes ago (0 children)
Even using uncited ideas/arguments taken from another source is plagiarism in
the academic sense.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 1 hour ago (0 children)
He did plagiarize in the sense he didn’t cite the paper he drew from, but he
didn’t just copy that paper and call it a day. Rather, he drew from arguments
made from it and used it as a logical foundation to make further arguments that
were unique.
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[–]Arse_______Asshole Aficionado [10] 3 points4 points5 points 1 hour ago (3
children)
YTA because you've rewarded him for deceiving. The assignments were individual
work, so for another student to know that he plagiarized, your "quiet" student
must have boasted. He must have boasted again after final grades were given out.
It's worse in a way that he developed the arguments further without citing the
original as it would have been easy for him to reference it, but instead he
wanted 100% of the credit. You should ask the other lecturers to do a plagiarism
search on his other assignments. If it's a pattern he should be stripped of his
honours. He should be anyway.
You're playing unethical favorites. It's OK that he cheats because he
contributed good insights in class. It's ok if you rob a bank because you always
paid your taxes on time.
If it was any other student than your favourite, would you have let them off
free? If I was the student who told you about it, I would lodge a formal
complaint about you and go to the media. I helped a fellow student complain
about a cheating well known lecturer before and he was unemployed soon after.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)
Absolutely I would and have done so in the past, because I would not deny a
student the opportunity to graduate just because of a singular mistake.
Complaints were made, but given I have tenure nothing was ever able to be done.
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[–]Arse_______Asshole Aficionado [10] [score hidden] 11 minutes ago (1 child)
It's not a "mistake". Plagiarism is a deliberate act. And it seems he's boasted
about it.
How do you know it's a singular act and not a repeat act? Or did you assume it's
a one off because you like him?
You really should ask the other lecturers to double-check his other work. Ask
the university standards board and ethics centre for advice, not an internet
forum (ie learn better judgement yourself so you can model it for students)
Did you even say anything to him? Did you make him write a new paper 100% his
own work?
How do you think the way you handle that is fair to the other students? YTAx100!
(and I often vote NTA against the crowd.)
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 8 minutes ago (0 children)
> It's not a "mistake". Plagiarism is a deliberate act
Not necessarily. If a student forgets to cite a paper, despite their intentions
that counts as plagiarism as much as if they fully intended to plagiarize.
> How do you know it's a singular act and not a repeat act? Or did you assume
> it's a one off because you like him?
Because I’m the head of the department that he’s majoring in, and so any
suspected plagiarism would’ve had to be reported to me. It hasn’t been.
> You really should ask the other lecturers to double-check his other work.
Fair enough.
> Did you even say anything to him? Did you make him write a new paper 100% his
> own work?
Yes, no
> How do you think the way you handle that is fair to the other students?
Because his grade has nothing to do with the grades of other students. They’re
not graded on a curve.
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[–]Gizaaaaaa 3 points4 points5 points 1 hour ago (0 children)
Actually, I thought when I read this, you were having a guilty conscience about
your actions. Turns out you don't and don't really care about it as you already
believe you are justified. 10/10 would not comment again.
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[–]JustheBeanSupreme Court Just-ass [107] [score hidden] 53 minutes ago (1
child)
YTA
Your policy and standards on plagiarism need to apply across the board. There is
no room for playing favorites when it comes to academic policy.
He did plagiarize, indubitably, in your own words. But because you feel
favorably towards him and enjoy the way he participates in discussions, you’ve
decided this student shouldn’t be held to the same standard as everyone else.
If you would have punished the student who generally annoys you for pulling this
stunt, the students who you enjoy need to be held to the same standards of
accountability.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 51 minutes ago (0 children)
I would not have punished the student who generally annoys me for this, no. In
the past when students have generally done well and have a lot at stake, I
prefer to give them a reprieve instead of ruining their lives over a single
mistake
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[–]Hopeful-Sleep4600 1 point2 points3 points 1 hour ago (1 child)
Maybe you should have asked him to redo the assignment with the source he used
and advise him to use more than one.
I will give YTA. I understand he is a good studant, but is your role to advise
him better.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 56 minutes ago (0 children)
Perhaps, but his paper was already stellar as it was.
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[–]False_Coat_5029 1 point2 points3 points 1 hour ago (12 children)
You are a huge AH and I hope approving of plagiarism violates your tenure.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 57 minutes ago (11 children)
It does not, I’ve been there and done that before and I’m still here
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[–]False_Coat_5029 [score hidden] 50 minutes ago (1 child)
There is so much delusion and self importance in this post it blows my mind. You
clearly think you are really smart and know better than everyone else. The rules
don't apply to you. One of the more disgusting posts I've seen on this sub.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 48 minutes ago (0 children)
The rules regarding plagiarism are extremely draconian and shouldn’t apply to
anybody. I’m just doing my small part in that, that’s all.
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[–]Random-Trivia [score hidden] 42 minutes ago (8 children)
Intentionally? Because this is different.
It's academic misconduct on the student's part and should be professional
misconduct on yours. This shows a huge gap in your own understanding of
plagiarism as a professor and department head. That you didn't think it was so
bad because they "just" copied the ideas not the words is incredible. In the
literal sense, impossible to believe.
I think, you allowed this student to pass because you are biased. I hope the
student who confronted you makes their case to the Dean or whatever board
handles these matters at your institution.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 40 minutes ago (7 children)
You misunderstand. I think his paper is valid not because he reworked the
wording, but that the ideas he took weren’t his entire paper but rather just the
basis he built his own compelling ideas off of
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[–]Random-Trivia [score hidden] 37 minutes ago (6 children)
So he plagiarized just a little? even if he reworked the wording and the ideas
did not make up his entire paper he still should have cited the original work.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 36 minutes ago (5 children)
It’s possible, there’s no way to know whether he simply forgot to cite it or if
he plagiarized on purpose. Either way, I think given the majority of the work
was original and his performance in general is stellar, he deserves some leeway.
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[–]Random-Trivia [score hidden] 31 minutes ago (4 children)
Your words
> I read the paper, and it was indubitably true, because while he didn’t use the
> same wording, a lot of the logic and arguments he used in his paper were
> identical and cited the same exact passages.
I think it is possible to know and I think you DO know but now are trying to
justify it in your head. What's the normal policy at your institution when it
comes to academic integrity and did you follow that? I'm having a really hard
time reconciling the fact that a department head does not have a basic
understanding of plagiarism because despite your words it falls squarely within
that.
No one deserves leeway for just committing a little cheating instead of 100%
cheating. Be serious.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 27 minutes ago (3 children)
As I said previously, you misunderstand. I’m saying the paper itself is majority
not plagiarized, not talking about that section specifically.
As for knowing, I know that he drew from the paper, I don’t know if he meant to
cite it or not. Thus, and because the vast majority of his paper is original, I
don’t find it justified to punish him, which would be failing the class at
least.
As for leeway, of course they do. Not just him, but anybody does for a simple
mistake.
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[–]Random-Trivia [score hidden] 22 minutes ago (2 children)
I don't believe I misunderstand but you didn't give any indication what normal
policy is. Is this something that is to be handled with discretion? Reported to
a specific person, like this student's advisor? For all you know they've had
issues with this from other professors as well.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 17 minutes ago (1 child)
You do, because your initial claim was that I’m claiming it’s not plagiarism due
to him rewording things, which is not at all what I’m saying. As for normal
policy: as I said, failing the class at minimum. Regarding plagiarism, as the
head of the department that he’s majoring in, I know it’s never been an issue.
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[–]Broad_Respond_2205 [score hidden] 51 minutes ago (1 child)
Info: so was it plagiarism or not? Were he allowed to use outside sources?
What's the due process for checking if something is plagiarism?
Can't really answer as it's more of a professional question, and it's totally
depends on if it's really was acceptable work or not.
At the very least I think he should lose some points for not citing his sources.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 44 minutes ago (0 children)
Technically yes. It’s possible that he simply forgot, it’s also possible he
tried to get away with plagiarism on purpose. Either way, I felt he had enough
original content to not pursue this further
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[–]extinct_diplodocusCraptain [164] 0 points1 point2 points 1 hour ago (1 child)
NTA. You're the one who decides whether the failure to cite was substantial
plagiarism. You decided it wasn't. You should have warned the original student
of his fault in failure to cite, though.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 hour ago (0 children)
Yes, if it was completely plagiarized it would be one thing. But using another
paper’s arguments essentially as a logical foundation to build off of is
entirely different.
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English isn’t my first language.
I’m a professor, and one of the classes I’m teaching this year is a
seminar-based literature class. There’s one student in this class that always
stood out as absolutely brilliant to me; he doesn’t talk an immense amount, but
every time he does he drops a metaphorical bomb on the conversation that
completely reframes it in everybody’s mind. In essence, he acts as a catalyst,
and all in all he’s a pleasure to have in class.
The big assignment for the class is a 10-page paper, written about anything we
covered in the class. I was quite looking forward to that one student’s paper,
and he delivered, writing arguably the best paper in the class.
A week after papers were turned in, I received a report from another student
that he had plagiarized the paper, alongside a link to the paper he allegedly
plagiarized from. I read the paper, and it was indubitably true, because while
he didn’t use the same wording, a lot of the logic and arguments he used in his
paper were identical and cited the same exact passages.
However, he didn’t just plagiarize it in a 1:1 ratio. Rather, he used the
arguments presenting in the other paper as a logical foundation, and then
developed upon them in a new and unique way. Hence, while he should’ve cited
that source, he clearly had original work, and thus I didn’t feel it was a
horrible offense.
Given I’m both the professor and the head of the department, disciplinary
measures are under my purview, but I decided to let him go, because I felt he
did do sufficiently original work in the paper and was otherwise brilliant. He
was set to graduate with honors, and I don’t want to ruin that.
The student that reported him confronted me later, saying he wasn’t punished and
so I’m TA for letting him graduate. I don’t think I am, but I’m curious what
reddit thinks.
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[–]SolarSunflower 0 points1 point2 points 1 hour ago (1 child)
Info: how did the other student know that the first one plagiarized? It seems
odd to me…
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 hour ago (0 children)
I’m not sure
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[–]whatisawombat [score hidden] 31 minutes ago (1 child)
NTA (ish)
It’s not apparent in the original post that this is your standard policy, but
you make that clear in the comments. I think showing some leniency about
first-time plagiarism is good, provided that your inform the student of their
error, make sure they learn their lesson, and have the same consequences for all
students.
I wouldn’t necessarily go so far as filing whole formal report/giving a 0 on the
assignment, but I would probably dock a nominal amount of points off the
assignment and require the student to (a) go back a rewrite/cite properly, and
(b) complete a short written assignment about academic integrity and citation.
I’d also probably try scare the kid a little about what will happen if this
occurs again to try and prevent a recurrence.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 29 minutes ago (0 children)
That’s entirely fair. I did dock him some points, but even then it ended up
being an A (90% exactly) because of the quality of the paper and did let him
know the reasoning behind that.
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[–]Poesy-WordHoardCertified Proctologist [21] [score hidden] 55 minutes ago (1
child)
NTA because
> used the arguments presenting in the other paper as a logical foundation, and
> then developed upon them in a new and unique way. Hence, while he should’ve
> cited that source, he clearly had original work,
But you should still have a conversation with him to ensure he understands
citing and references. This becomes critical if he intends to stay in academics
or otherwise contribute to publications in the future.
> The student that reported him confronted me later, saying he wasn’t punished
> and so I’m TA for letting him graduate.
You should have had a follow up with the student. Meaning, reassure the student
that the matter was handled appropriately. Thank them for their diligence and
integrity. But they're not entitled to more than that. Ie. They don't need to
know outcome of the conversation.
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] [score hidden] 53 minutes ago (0 children)
Thank you for the advice. I will have the recommended conversation with the
student that reported the plagiarism.
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[–]angreerbees -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 hour ago (1 child)
I feel like an odd ball bc I feel like you’re NTA.. as long as there was a
substantial change between the papers and you talked to the person about not
doing anything of the sort in the future (if there even is future education for
this person) then I really don’t see an issue.
I feel like the actual point of the assignment was to see if you could have
ideas about the subject matter and information that are unique to yourself and
as long as that criteria was met, he passed the assignment
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[–]Key-Kaleidoscope6312[S] -1 points0 points1 point 1 hour ago (0 children)
That’s exactly how I see it as well. Given that he didn’t plagiarize it entirely
and instead made several good and original points, he entirely demonstrated what
he was supposed to.
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