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over-nine-thousand
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#1 Edited By over-nine-thousand
HATCHIYACK
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SUPER PERFECT CELL
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#2 ProfessorRespect
Hatchiyack sucks.
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#3 over-nine-thousand
@professorrespect: true
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#4 McFlicky
Hatchiyack. Super perfect cell might be able to win but his other 3 forms get
stomped.
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#5 Noobmaster2001
Hatchiyack stomps.
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#6 over-nine-thousand
cell could out smart him.
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#7 over-nine-thousand
bump
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#8 goldie_pegasus
hatchiyak finger flicks
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#9 Wushu59
Hatchiyack supposedly stronger then Broly
He one shots if that's accurate
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#10 over-nine-thousand
i got rid of the rounds and went straight to super perfect cell
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#11 jonathancarlton
Didn't the Cell Games Saga took place after the Hatchiyack Saga? A stronger Goku
after his fight against Hatchiyack and during his fight against Cell stated that
he doesn't stood a single chance against Cell and need SSJ2 Gohan to beat him in
a fight. Let's completely ignore that the power difference between anime and
manga doesn't exist once again.
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#12 jonathancarlton
@noobmaster2001 said:
Hatchiyack stomps.
@goldie_pegasus said:
hatchiyak finger flicks
@wushu59 said:
Hatchiyack supposedly stronger then Broly
He one shots if that's accurate
The story-line of this OVA is set during the ten-day wait prior to the Cell
Games, and after the events of Dragon Ball Z: Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan
(as Goku states that Hatchiyack might be even stronger than Broly).
Additionally, it can be inferred this OVA takes place in the same continuity of
Dragon Ball Z: The Tree of Might, Dragon Ball Z: Lord Slug, and Dragon Ball Z:
Cooler's Revenge due to the appearances of the main antagonists in this OVA.
Cell is going to get one-shot by a character weaker than Cell Saga Z-Fighters,
got it.
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#13 Wushu59
@jonathancarlton:
Movies aren't from the same timeline as canon.
You are comparing 616 to MCU right now
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#14 jonathancarlton
@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton:
Movies aren't from the same timeline as canon.
You are comparing 616 to MCU right now
Who says that the Dragon Ball Z anime is canon?
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#15 Wushu59
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Toriyama.
And even if it wasn't, they aren't in the same timeline anyways.
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@jonathancarlton:
Toriyama.
And even if it wasn't, they aren't in the same timeline anyways.
Then why is Garlic Jr. in the anime?
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@jonathancarlton: The movies and canon timeline don't match up. The movie
versions are much stronger than their canon counterparts. Broly destroyed a
galaxy, which is a SSJ3 lvl feat. I agree the hypothetical movie version of Cell
would be Broly lvl, but not the main one. Hatchiyack is even stronger than Broly
according to Goku, so he one-shots here.
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#18 Wushu59
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That's the only exception
Canon Broly is the current one in Super.
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@noobmaster2001 said:
@jonathancarlton: The movies and canon timeline don't match up. The movie
versions are much stronger than their canon counterparts. Broly destroyed a
galaxy, which is a SSJ3 lvl feat. I agree the hypothetical movie version of Cell
would be Broly lvl, but not the main one. Hatchiyack is even stronger than Broly
according to Goku, so he one-shots here.
Nice downplay.
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#20 Wushu59
@jonathancarlton:
That's Buu Saga Goku with a mass amount of energy he received from other people
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#21 Edited By jonathancarlton
@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton:
That's the only exception
Canon Broly is the current one in Super.
What about Dragon Ball: Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans which is an Dragon Ball Z
anime episode?
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#22 Wushu59
@jonathancarlton said:
What about Dragon Ball: Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans which is an anime episode?
That doesn't take place in same timeline either
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#23 Edited By jonathancarlton
@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton said:
What about Dragon Ball: Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans which is an anime episode?
That doesn't take place in same timeline either
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Hatchiyack_Saga
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#24 jonathancarlton
@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton:
That's Buu Saga Goku with a mass amount of energy he received from other people
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#25 Wushu59
@jonathancarlton:
That's from a video game.
Not the same timeline
Cell Games exist in Broly Movie but it wouldn't be the same Cell from canon
Like how 616 Thor and MCU Thor are not the same characters
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#26 Edited By Wushu59
@jonathancarlton said:
@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton:
That's Buu Saga Goku with a mass amount of energy he received from other people
That's also from Buu Saga
Vegito is the strongest character in DBZ Canon
Much greater then Cell
What are you trying to imply here?
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#27 jonathancarlton
@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton said:
@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton:
That's Buu Saga Goku with a mass amount of energy he received from other people
That's also from Buu Saga
Vegito is the strongest character in DBZ
Much greater then Cell
What are you trying to imply here?
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#28 Wushu59
@jonathancarlton:
And what does any of that have to do with Cell of doesn't scale to them?
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@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton:
And what does any of that have to do with Cell of doesn't scale to them?
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#30 Wushu59
@jonathancarlton:
Non Canon Cell getting his butt whopped by Base GT Goku?
How is that relevant?
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#31 jonathancarlton
@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton:
Non Canon Cell getting his butt whopped by Base GT Goku?
How is that relevant?
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#32 Wushu59
@jonathancarlton:
Emphasis on Non Canon Cell
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#33 Edited By jonathancarlton
@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton:
Emphasis on Non Canon Cell
You do realize that Cell is a lot stronger than BOGT Goku since he has even
training in Hell same with Frieza right? The only reason they lost to Goku in a
fight is because they were fighting against a much stronger version of Goku.
Even BOGT Goku is stronger than Buu from DBZ.
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#34 Wushu59
@jonathancarlton:
And how is GT Cell even relevant?
He is not being used here
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#35 jonathancarlton
@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton:
And how is GT Cell even relevant?
He is not being used here
Prove it, the original post didn't say anything about that.
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#36 Wushu59
@jonathancarlton:
It's says Super Perfect Cell with pictures of him from actual canon.
It's canon version by default unless stated otherwise.
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#37 Edited By jonathancarlton
@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton:
It's says Super Perfect Cell with pictures of him from actual canon.
It's canon version by default unless stated otherwise.
Super Perfect Cell appeared in DBGT too.
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#38 Edited By Wushu59
@jonathancarlton:
=
@jonathancarlton:
It's says Super Perfect Cell with
PICTURES OF HIM FROM ACTUAL CANON.
IT'S CANON VERSION BY DEFAULT UNLESS STATED OTHERWISE.
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#39 jonathancarlton
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@jonathancarlton:
=
@jonathancarlton:
It's says Super Perfect Cell with
PICTURES OF HIM FROM ACTUAL CANON.
IT'S CANON VERSION BY DEFAULT UNLESS STATED OTHERWISE.
Then Hatchiyack solos Dragon Ball Z, since in canon they only caps out at Solar
System level.
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#40 deactivated-604f8f087c7dd
@wushu59: You're trying to talk logic to a guy who thinks Frieza is a solar
system buster.
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@jonathancarlton said:
@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton:
It's says Super Perfect Cell with pictures of him from actual canon.
It's canon version by default unless stated otherwise.
Super Perfect Cell appeared in DBGT too.
I think if the OP wanted this to be GT Cell he would have said.
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@ssjbatdan said:
@wushu59: You're trying to talk logic to a guy who thinks Frieza is a solar
system buster.
I mean if we're going by anime versions, King Vegeta could bust multiple
planets, so Frieza might be able to. Manga version definitely can't though.
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> Then Hatchiyack solos Dragon Ball Z, since in canon they only caps out at
> Solar System level.
I never said that.
Cell isn't the ceiling for DBZ
If that's what you are trying to imply, then you have already debunked yourself
with your own scans in this very same thread
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#44 Edited By jonathancarlton
@noobmaster2001 said:
@ssjbatdan said:
@wushu59: You're trying to talk logic to a guy who thinks Frieza is a solar
system buster.
I mean if we're going by anime versions, King Vegeta could bust multiple
planets, so Frieza might be able to. Manga version definitely can't though.
Thank you very much!!! I was looking for someone who understand the difference
between the anime and manga power-scaling!!!
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#45 Edited By jonathancarlton
@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton:
> Then Hatchiyack solos Dragon Ball Z, since in canon they only caps out at
> Solar System level.
I never said that.
Cell isn't the ceiling for DBZ
If that's what you are trying to imply, then you have already debunked yourself
with your own scans in this very same thread
Dragon Ball Z anime isn't canon, the manga is.
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#46 Edited By over-nine-thousand
i don't want to be bais so what we could do is a vote, if you want cell to have
that feat put your thumbs up, if you don't want cell to have that feat then put
your thumb down, lololol in 1 hour if theres more no than yes than cell doesn't
get the feat, and vise versa, if no one votes than i'll just allow it lolol.
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#47 Wushu59
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> Dragon Ball Z anime isn't canon.
Not according to Toriyama
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@over-nine-thousand said:
i don't want to be bais so we could do is vote, if you want cell to have that
feat put your thumbs up, if you don't want cell to have that feat then put your
thumb down, lololol in 1 hour if theres more no than yes than cell doesn't get
the feat, and vise versa, if no one votes than i'll just allow it lolol.
Thumbs up for me.
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#49 deactivated-604f8f087c7dd
@noobmaster2001 said:
@ssjbatdan said:
@wushu59: You're trying to talk logic to a guy who thinks Frieza is a solar
system buster.
I mean if we're going by anime versions, King Vegeta could bust multiple
planets, so Frieza might be able to. Manga version definitely can't though.
It doesn't make any sense. He's basing it off a flash of light, and insists upon
it, despite Frieza holding back to destroy Namek. He held back to destroy a
planet...it took 5 minutes to destroy it. If it was a solar-system level attack,
why did it take so long, and why did he only put in enough power to cause an
explosion via core breach?
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#50 Edited By jonathancarlton
@wushu59 said:
@jonathancarlton:
> Dragon Ball Z anime isn't canon.
Not according to Toriyama
So I guess that means that Toriyama agrees that 1% Base Goku is on par with
Ultimate Gohan?
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