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#61
07-21-2006, 02:45 PM
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And unless Two Sicilies not Bourbon? Unless this family does not occur from the
French king Louis XIV and its grandson of the Spanish king Philippe V? Unless
Duke of Calabria cannot be the successor of the French throne after Luis
Alphonso and the Spanish king Juan Carlos?
Yes, the Two Sicilies are Bourbons (as are the Parmas), but far enough removed
that we don't need to take them into calculation as potential successors unless
there is a major dynastic catastrophe.
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#62
07-21-2006, 02:50 PM
magnik
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What I've read on An Online Gotha
"The headship of the Royal House of France is an interesting question. Leaving
aside the dilemma caused by the Bonaparte claimant, who is clearly an heir to
hereditary monarchs of two separate French Empires, the question of who is heir
to the claim of the House of Capet, which ruled France for half the Christian
era, is the subject of great dispute.
Probably the majority of French monarchists support the claims of the Orléanist
line, headed by Henri, Comte de Paris, who has assumed the title "Duc de
France". He is clearly the heir of Louis Philippe, King of the French, who ruled
from 1830 to 1848. He is also the heir to the legitimist line of the House of
Capet if the renunciation of King Felipe V of Spain to the French throne was
valid. Eminent and learned scholars have argued that no such resignation was
valid and that thus King Felipe's heir male inherited the Legitimist claim on
the death of Henri V, so long, at least, as the claim is not united to another
throne. The heir male of King Felipe is Don Luis Alfonso de Borbón.
Since reasonable persons can make valid arguments in favor of either claimant,
both will be presented here in this article. Furthermore, if Luis Alfonso is
entitled to be considered a French dynast, then so are all the legitimate
male-line descendants of King Felipe, and, indeed, of Hugues Capet (e.g., the
Seville, Roccaguglielma, Galliera, and Infant Gabriel lines). For other apparent
dynasts of the House of France, then, see the articles on Spain, Two Sicilies,
Parma, Brazil and Luxemburg.
Historically, no such title existed as "Prince of France". The members of the
Orléanist branch who are not products of morganatic marriages have been accorded
the title of Prince[ss] d'Orléans, Royal Highness, unless other titles are shown
and the children of the head and the heir apparent of that line have now been
accorded the title Prince[ss] of France, Royal Highness."
http://pages.prodigy.net/ptheroff/gotha/france.html
#63
07-21-2006, 03:03 PM
magnik
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And here. Maybe you know that or maybe no but few info here
http://www.chivalricorders.org/royal...e/frenlegt.htm
"The claim of Louis-Alphonse de Bourbon to be Head of the Royal House of Bourbon
and representative of the Monarchy founded by Hugues Capet is based on the fact
that he is the latter's senior male primogeniture heir by legitimate descent. He
is a Roman Catholic, and a French citizen. The objectionss to his claim made by
the Orléanists, simply stated are based on the renunciation of 1712-13 made by
Philip V of Spain and their inclusion as a provision of the Treaty of Utrecht,
and the foreign nationality of many of his ancestors. However (i) the
renunciations of 1712-13 were void from the moment they were signed, and even
the Treaty of Utrecht could not affect the Fundamental Laws (just as the Treaty
of Troyes of 1420 could not do so) (ii) any possible validity of those
renunciations was rendered void by (a) the failure of the reciprocal actions
required under their terms [...] and (b) by the repeal of semi-Salic Law in
Spain 1830/33, and (iii) the foreign nationality of intervening generations
cannot stand in the path of a Dynast's succession any more than it can prevent a
foreigner from inheriting a French title.[4] For these self-same reasons there
was no impediment to the succession of the Infante Don Juan in 1883, nor of
successive senior representatives of the House of Bourbon to the Headship of the
Royal House of France. The Family of Orléans accordingly follows eventually in
succession after the most junior members of the Family of Bourbon-Parma.
The heir of the Orléans family, then Count of Clermont (now Count of Paris) took
action in the French courts to try and prevent the Head of the House of Bourbon
using the title of Duke of Anjou and the plain Arms of France. He failed in his
efforts to persuade the French Courts to support his case (see statement by the
Secretariat of the Mgr Alphonse de Bourbon [...] More recently, on the death of
the Count o Paris, the Duke of Anjou offered his personal condolences to the new
Head of the Branch of Orléans, thus improving the relationship between the two
lines which had been damaged by the earlier court case and other actions. The
present Duke of Anjou is a frequent visitor to France and participates in many
public functions, including attending as the guest of the French government the
annual anniversary Mass of the foundation of the Les Invalides as the senior
representative of Louis XIV. He is also a member of the French Society of the
Cincinnati as the Representative of Louis XVI."
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07-21-2006, 03:22 PM
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Is good to know that young Luis Alfonso is trying to end all these bad blood in
the family and make peace with his cousins. Too bad that pride and ambition
precedes good manners with some royals.
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#65
07-22-2006, 10:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toledo
Is good to know that young Luis Alfonso is trying to end all these bad blood in
the family and make peace with his cousins. Too bad that pride and ambition
precedes good manners with some royals.
So how must Luis Alfonso have felt when the Comte de Paris named his nephew,
Prince Charles-Philippe d'Orléans, the "rival" Duc d'Anjou in 2004?
It seems that LA's attempts to "make peace with his [French] cousins" was to no
avail, as the Orléans response was a heavy-handed and calculated affront.
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07-23-2006, 04:23 PM
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The next most senior male Bourbon after Luis Alfonso is none other than King
Juan Carlos; the Prince of the Asturias is next, and after him the line goes
back to the male issue of King Fernando VII, which brings us to Don Alfonso de
Orléans-Bourbon y Ferrara-Pignatelli, 7th Duke of Galliera (b 1968), who is a
descendant of Queen Victoria through his great-grandmother Princess Beatrice of
Edinburgh, Princess of Great Britain and Princess of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.
But there is no direct male line. The descendants of Isabel II. are the male
line because she married her cousin, but her sister didn't so it is the female
line from there one. After the prince of asturias should come the Duke of
Sevilla.
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#67
07-24-2006, 11:16 PM
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Wait!
I once again have closely read through the document resulted by you on the
French laws of inheritance of the French throne. Therefore I have some
questions.
1) These laws exclude laws of succession of women on the French throne?
2) If grandson Louis XIV has borrowed the Spanish throne and could not apply
simultaneously for the French crown on conditions of Utrecht contract, all the
same new Spanish king from the French dynasty remains a member French Hugo Capet
At home, all the same it kept the rights to the French throne, all the same its
descendants are considered as members of Hugo Capet House and have the right to
borrow the French throne?
3) the Spanish King Ferdinand has entered the so-called Pragmatical sanction in
1834 on which its daughter Isabella became the successor of the Spanish throne
owing to absence of man's posterity at this Spanish king. But unless it did not
contradict the French laws?
4) Why carlist supporters considered the Pragmatical sanction as infringement of
laws of inheritance of a throne?
5) why carlist supporters lifted revolts against queen Isabella with the purpose
to protect the rights carlist applicants for the Spanish throne?
6) whether carlist applicants for the Spanish throne have been recognized Le
Comte Chambord as successors of the French throne in 1883?
7) why Luis Alphonco it is considered chapter Hugo Capet of the House, in fact
it is the lineal descendant of queen Isabella?
I shall be glad, if you will answer me these questions in the same sequence,
beginning from the first and finishing the last.
#68
07-24-2006, 11:30 PM
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Quote:
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So how must Luis Alfonso have felt when the Comte de Paris named his nephew,
Prince Charles-Philippe d'Orléans, the "rival" Duc d'Anjou in 2004?
It seems that LA's attempts to "make peace with his [French] cousins" was to no
avail, as the Orléans response was a heavy-handed and calculated affront.
I saw the pictures in Point de Vue of that event. Maybe is to psyche Luis
Alfonso out and make feel unwelcome in France? After all, he was the one that
took main stage on the pictures involving the restoration/recognition of the
heart of Louis XVII, the child heir of the last 18th century King and Marie
Antoinette. So, the Orleans could be trying to save face by slapping Luis
Alfonso's with the title thing. Kind of childish when you think about it. And
the family feud goes to all branches because the Orleans were partisans of King
Juan Carlos over the Duke of Cadiz (Luis Alfonso's father), who by then was
considered the senior male of the senior Bourbon line, not seen with good eyes
by any other branch that disputed his legitimacy...namely the Orleans again.
But the interesting thing is that Luis Alfonso, who lost his father and older
brother in horrendous accidents, does not seem to care much about their opinion.
Live and let live but he is the only one making an attempt to find some peace
within this family. You know that when he was invited to the wedding of Felipe
and Letizia this was to be the event to introduce his girlfriend to the family
and he was limited to one seat, no guests. Once more, kind of childish when you
think about it.
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#69
07-25-2006, 11:22 AM
magnik
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Maybe you find some more info here, Russian and fellows:
http://www.heraldica.org/topics/france/
http://library.byu.edu/%7Erdh/eurodocs/france.html
(Many links on French.)
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08-07-2006, 12:31 AM
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According to Wikipedia.com, Henri d'Orléans, Earl of Paris would be the true
hier to the French Throne, but I dont know if this is right
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08-07-2006, 04:25 AM
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Quote:
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According to Wikipedia.com, Henri d'Orléans, Earl of Paris would be the true
hier to the French Throne, but I dont know if this is right
For the Orléanists, the Comte de Paris is indeed the rightful claimant, being
the direct descendant of the last King of the French, Louis-Philippe.
Of course the Bonapartists have their Pretender, Prince Charles Napoleon, as do
the legitimists, who support Luis Alfonso.
It's a three-horse race with the finish line nowhere in sight.
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08-12-2006, 12:10 PM
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Magnik the info you posted is treasure.
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08-12-2006, 03:03 PM
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It is not so complicated at all.
The straight line of direct male hereditary successors from Louis XIV became
extinct in 1883 with the death of the Comte de Chambord.
The inheritance of the throne of France logically should have gone to the most
senior closest male in the House of Bourbon.
And that was the Infante Carlos of Spain, Conde de Montizon.
But... but... but...
A grandson of Louis XIV (the second son of the Dauphin), the Duc d'Anjou, became
King of Spain. Having a Bourbon king on both the French and Spanish thrones
disturbed the balance of power in Europe and a Grand Alliance of European
nations united against this. As a result the Treaty of Utrecht of 1713 was
agreed, meaning that the Duc d'Anjou and his hereditary successors and their
descendants lost their claim on the throne of France for ever.
Because of this, the -logical- most senior Bourbon line in Spain had to be
ignored and the second senior line, the Orléans (descending from Louis XIV's
younger brother the Duc d'Orléans) became the rightful claimants on the throne
of France.
The supporters of the Anjou line stress the seniority of his bloodline but
'forget' the Treaty of Utrecht.
The supporters of the Orléans line accept the seniority of the Anjou line but
point to the Treaty of Utrecht.
Louis Alphonse de Bourbon, Duc d'Anjou sees himself as the most senior of all
Bourbons and therefore King of France and Spain, neglecting the Treaty of
Utrecht.
Henri de Bourbon de Orléans sees himself as the rightful King of France pointing
to the Treaty of Utrecht which excludes the Spanish branch.
Juan Carlos de Borbón sees himself as the rightful Spanish King, neglecting the
Anjou claim that he is not the most senior male, due to his descendance from
Queen Isabel II of Spain.
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08-31-2006, 07:09 AM
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Excuse me, but I have questions. Really legitimists and orleanists cannot come
to the compromise agreement concerning the successor of the French crown? What
were conditions of Utrecht contract concerning the Spanish and French crowns?
Tell, please, refusal of Felipe V the French crown extends only on the
subsequent Spanish kings and their successors or on all Spanish royal family?
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08-31-2006, 07:32 AM
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There won't be any compromise agreement between the pretenders and their
supporters. Noone of the supporters of both side would accept it.
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08-31-2006, 08:11 AM
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What French monarchists in the numerical majority - legitimists or orleanists?
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08-31-2006, 09:22 AM
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Those are in first line to a abolished monarchy throne are not heirs or those
behind them they are called pretenders because their monarchies have been
abolished. If don't believe me go to Answers.com and look up heir-apparent and
heir-presumptive scrolll down and you see those who are in line to a abolished
monarchythrone are called pretenders.
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What is the lines of succession to the Headship of the French Royal House, after
Prince Louis Alphonso of Bourbon, Duke of Anjou and Bourbon; Prince Henri of
Bourbon-Orleans, Count of Paris and Prince Charles Napoleon of France?
#79
09-08-2006, 05:33 AM
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Quote:
What is the lines of succession to the Headship of the French Royal House, after
Prince Louis Alphonso of Bourbon, Duke of Anjou and Bourbon; Prince Henri of
Bourbon-Orleans, Count of Paris and Prince Charles Napoleon of France?
Jean-Christophe is the unique napoleonic successor. As to Orleans, I think,
someone should be one of numerous descendants of 11 children of the previous
Parisian count. If Luis Alphonso will be the father only girls or remains
childless, I think, someone from Spanish (either from Parma, or from Sicilian)
relatives becomes legitimist pretendent on the French throne.
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Jean-Christophe is the unique napoleonic successor.
According to Theroff, Jean-Christophe has an unmarried uncle, Jérôme, born 1957,
so two heirs.
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