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4G69 throttle body swap, NEED HELP!
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So far, I'm happy with the 4G69 throttle body swap. Everything seems to be
running alright with one exception. Yesterday evening on the highway, I look
down at my speedometer and noticed it was reading at, around 80mph; I felt as if
I'm actually going 60-65mph. Today, I'm driving down my street, 1st gear/ around
2-2,500k rpm and I reach 20-30mph real fast, while I'm actually only going about
10-15mph. Can anyone help me with this problem, what do I need to do?
Re-calibrate it? Go to dealership?
PROBLEM SOLVED, THANKS GUYS!
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Throttle body doesn't have anything related to your speed sensor. Did you change
the tires with different size? That can explain your issue.
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Is not your throttle body
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Correct, the throttle body has nothing to do with the speed sensor, but
everything was good until I installed the 4G69. Right now, I have my stock
wheels on but during the summer, I use different wheels. Even when I use those
wheels, there's no problem. So, I have no idea what went wrong? Can a tune fix
this? What tuner should I go with? My buddy who gets his done is $300 for the
first time and anything after that is free. What are some good specs I should
set my car at ect? LMK. Thanks!
All I have on the car now is...
...oem wheels, rrm aluminum crank pulley, injen cai, injen full exhaust, tein
springs, twm short shifter.
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How did you end up fixing the problem?? Thanks
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Yeah, I'm planning to turn a 2005 UK Sport Lancer into a USDM Lancer Ralliart.
thats 1.6 to 2.4 MIVEC
98bhp to 169bhp
My car already has TEIN basics and loads of other stuff...
What I am going to do in the mean time is add the RRM pulley to the engine, and
get an RRM ported intake manifold and send them mine. I'll probably get the RRM
downpipe as well, if they hurry up with the header ill get that also!
That engine cost me £1395 which must be about $2000.
All the other bits must have totalled about $1000 from the USA by now!
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spending all this money on a swap, wouldnt be easier to just turbo ur existing
motor and get more power?
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I'm sure if you do a $/HP comparison he's saving quite a bit and would still
have funds left over to mod the engine. We, in the states, don't know how the
G18 responds to boost (could be worse than the G94) so I think he's moving in
the right direction.
What about transmission orientation and the starter motor?
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The newer ones come with a 2.0 DOHC 4G63.
Someone else mentioned this, and also said the RA's get the strengthened Evo
style chassis. So are they like FWD Evos? Turbo and all? or do they have N/A
4G63 engines? Do you have a link?
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They are N/A (except for the Lancer 260 which is known as a poor man's evo being
260bhp and most of its performance bits stripped but still AWD ACD AYC), but the
2.0 lancers can come in AWD, my car has got an ACD button but it doesnt work
obviously as my cars FWD! I'll get a pic if ya want.
Transmission orientation is exactly the same. The 4G18 from what i can tell from
the shop manuals is very very similar to the 4G94 except for the intake
manifold.
Anyhow, no need to debate my choice, its already been made!
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I didn't ask about the G94. I only brought up the G94 beause everyone says "why
not boost" instead of trying a swap. but some engines don't handle boost that
well. The G94 needs a lot of internal work to make real power- the G18 could be
even more fragile and boosting could be more expensive than a swap.....
That said, how does the G18 tranny compare to the G69?
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From comparing shop manauls the tranny is exactly the same except for two lower
gear ratios in 3rd and 4th. The transmission, and housing is exactly the same
otherwise.
I personally feel that this engine will be better than boosting, and leaves the
door open for boosting the 2.4 in the future for more power still.
The main reason I'm doing this is because I love a good project! There is no 2.4
lancer here, so I'm getting somat unique!
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From comparing shop manauls the tranny is exactly the same except for two lower
gear ratios in 3rd and 4th. The transmission, and housing is exactly the same
otherwise.
Awesome- that's exactly what I wanted to know. That has been the major stumbling
block (and expense) of most of the swap projects. I hope you don't have any
major fabrication ahead of you, but it sounds more-or-less straightforward.
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I personally feel that this engine will be better than boosting, and leaves the
door open for boosting the 2.4 in the future for more power still.
exactly- if you wanna boost the G69 we have a large community of people who know
the capabilities and limitations.
Best of luck!!!
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They are all essentially F5M42 with different gear ratios, there doesnt seem to
be any other difference. The all mount in the same orientation, and the bolt
holes in my transmission housing line up with those on the 2.4 engine, so
hopefully it will bolt up.
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They are N/A (except for the Lancer 260 which is known as a poor man's evo being
260bhp and most of its performance bits stripped but still AWD ACD AYC), but the
2.0 lancers can come in AWD, my car has got an ACD button but it doesnt work
obviously as my cars FWD! I'll get a pic if ya want.
Transmission orientation is exactly the same. The 4G18 from what i can tell from
the shop manuals is very very similar to the 4G94 except for the intake
manifold.
Anyhow, no need to debate my choice, its already been made!
so is the lancer 260 somewhat the some as our RS?
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my car has got an ACD button but it doesnt work obviously as my cars FWD! I'll
get a pic if ya want.
why would they put that and not be functunal. its like have a cruise control
button but no cruise control..
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...You should throw in a V8
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so is the lancer 260 somewhat the some as our RS?
no it=s basically a detuned version of the GSR. instead of making 276 or w/e it
makes now, it only makes 260bhp.
but when compared to the FQ-400, it's slightly lacking
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...You should throw in a V8
nice one
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you should of gotten a HEMI
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why would they put that and not be functunal. its like have a cruise control
button but no cruise control..
ot, but i had a 95 grand am sport sedan, 5 speed, with a cruise control button
that was non-functional.
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Go for the v-12, rwd lancer, see if u can race an evo the begin to chuckle
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dude, hows the swap going, i'm up to 160,000miles on my oz and hoping for a
swap, but i just need someone to say that it can be done. thanks
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buy a new lancer.
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I believe the car was stolen and wrecked... The op now has an Evo...
schang_18, just build you motor...
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yeah, he bought a fq edition evo, the ralliart was stolen
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why the heck must they release so many diff motors for these cars haha
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interesting swap
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the 4g69 swap with the 4g63 is ****en sweet
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Hi
I am interested in how easy this engine swap would be.
I have a 2005 Lancer cs3a with a 4g18 engine and a Manual f5m411 gearbox.
Where I live in Thailand it is cheap and easy to get a 4g69 2.4 litre MIVEC
engine as fitted to the Mitsubishi Spacewagon.
The 4g69's I could get would all originally have been fitted to an Automatic
gearbox, but I prefer to drive a manual.
I would like to know if it is possible to mate a 4g69 to the bell housing and
gearbox of my Lancer without any serious fabricating.
Many thanks
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Hello, does the 4g69 clutch kit compatible with 4g18 gearbox ?
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