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Submitted URL: https://link.zondervanacademic.com/click/33821863.1024/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYW1hem9uLmNvbS9TdGlsbC1UaW1lLUNhcmUtQ2h1cmNocy1Ib21vc2V4dWFs...
Effective URL: https://www.amazon.com/Still-Time-Care-Churchs-Homosexuality-ebook/dp/B08P3ZSRMT?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&u...
Submission: On January 02 via api from BE — Scanned from DE
Effective URL: https://www.amazon.com/Still-Time-Care-Churchs-Homosexuality-ebook/dp/B08P3ZSRMT?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&u...
Submission: On January 02 via api from BE — Scanned from DE
Form analysis 8 forms found in the DOM
Name: site-search — GET /s/ref=nb_sb_noss
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<option selected="selected" current="parent" value="search-alias=digital-text">Kindle Store</option>
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if (typeof trialModeSignIn === "function" && false) {
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var counter = instrumentation.counter();
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counter.buttonClick("preferenceChangeLinkDevice");
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return false;
});
}();
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<script type="text/javascript">
// Send csm counter on 'Buy' button click as well preferred payment method buy button click.
P.when('A', 'jQuery', 'accordionInstrumentation', 'ready').execute(function(A, $, instrumentation) {
$('#checkoutButtonId').click(function() {
var counter = instrumentation.counter();
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counter.buttonClick("buyButton");
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// Fix for TT: https://t.corp.amazon.com/P25461968
// We should NOT freeze the 1-Click button when user returns to the DP page by hitting back buttton
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logCounter(SERVICE_COUNTER_ENABLE_ONECLICK_ON_MASH_REAPPEAR);
currForm.data('submitted', false);
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};
$("#buyOneClick").preventMultiSubmission();
A.on.ready(function() {
$("#sendSample").preventMultiSubmission();
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});
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<script type="text/javascript">
P.when('A', 'jQuery').execute(function(A, $) {
/*
Claimed Applicable Promotions
Expose a jQuery event trigger here that will show a message about
what promotions will be applied to this purchase. Since the "You Save"
message and price is calculated pre-promotion, we'll hide that message
to avoid confusion.
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A.on('kindle_price_block_show_promotions', function(promotionText, numberOfPromotions) {
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$('#kindle_applied_promotions').html(promotionText).children().css('textDecoration', 'none');
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if (numberOfPromotions > 1) {
$('#kindle_promo_multiple_promo_message').show();
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$('#kindle_promo_message').show();
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data-csa-c-id="lh7p49-fn6hdg-nokc3m-gd86s2"> <a class="a-link-normal" href="#" role="link"> audiobook </a> </span> with Audible narration for <span class="a-color-price">$12.99</span> </span> </span></label></div>
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<br> Sold and delivered by Audible, an Amazon company </span>
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STILL TIME TO CARE: WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM THE CHURCH’S FAILED ATTEMPT TO CURE
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Charting the path forward for our churches and ministries in providing care—not
a cure— for our non-straight sisters and brothers who are living lives of costly
obedience to Jesus.
At the start of the gay rights movement in 1969, evangelicalism's leading voices
cast a vision for gay people who turn to Jesus. It was C.S. Lewis, Billy Graham,
Francis Schaeffer and John Stott who were among the most respected leaders
within theologically orthodox Protestantism. We see with them a positive
pastoral approach toward gay people, an approach that viewed homosexuality as a
fallen condition experienced by some Christians who needed care more than cure.
With the birth and rise of the ex-gay movement, the focus shifted from care to
cure. As a result, there are an estimated 700,000 people alive today who
underwent conversion therapy in the United States alone. Many of these patients
were treated by faith-based, testimony-driven parachurch ministries centered on
the ex-gay script. Despite the best of intentions, the movement ended with very
troubling results. Yet the ex-gay movement died not because it had the wrong sex
ethic. It died because it was founded on a practice that diminished the beauty
of the gospel.
Yet even after the closure of the ex-gay umbrella organization Exodus
International in 2013, the ex-gay script continues to walk about as the undead
among us, pressuring people like me to say, "I used to be gay, but I'm not gay
anymore. Now I'm just same-sex attracted."
For orthodox Christians, the way forward is to take a close look at our history.
It is time again to focus with our Neo-Evangelical fathers on caring over
attempting to cure.
With warmth and humor, as well as original research, Still Time to
Care provides:
* Guidance for the gay person who hears the gospel and finds themselves smitten
by the life-giving call of Jesus.
* Guidance for the church to repent of its homophobia and instead offer
gospel-motivated love and compassion.
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'Dr. Greg Johnson deserves our thanks for writing such a grace-filled book full
of wisdom and insight. As a model pastor-theologian, Greg handles the sensitive
and controversial topic of homosexuality with both pastoral candor and
theological nuance. Drawing inspiration from such evangelical luminaries as C.
S. Lewis, Billy Graham, Francis Schaeffer, and John Stott, Greg makes a
compelling case for a 'paradigm of care' as opposed to a 'paradigm of cure.' The
result is an excellent book with an inspiring gospel vision whatever your
orientation--a vision marked not by hope in heterosexuality but hope in Christ.
Highly recommended!' -- Todd Wilson, PhD, cofounder and president, The Center
for Pastor Theologians
'In the suffocating quagmire of the church's debates about same-sex sexuality,
Greg Johnson's Still Time to Care is a breath of fresh air. While Johnson
unflinchingly documents the failures of the ex-gay movement of the 1980s and
'90s, he also defends a traditional sexual ethic and articulates a 'paradigm of
care' to counter the 'paradigm of cure' that has harmed so many people. Drawing
deeply from history, evangelical leaders, and Scripture, Johnson articulates a
way forward for sexual minorities and those who love them. Winsome, intelligent,
personal, and warm, this book is important and profoundly needed. I want
everyone I know to read it.' -- Tish Harrison Warren, Anglican priest; author,
Liturgy of the Ordinary and Prayer in the Night
'Greg Johnson offers a fascinating look into the rise of the ex-gay movement and
the reasons for a diminished ex-gay narrative today. He takes the reader back in
history to key voices evangelicals admired to move the reader forward into a
vision of biblical faithfulness and nuanced pastoral care and communal support
for those who are both gay and Christian.' -- Mark A. Yarhouse, PsyD, Dr. Arthur
P. Rech and Mrs. Jean May Rech Professor of Psychology, Wheaton College
'This fascinating book gives a thorough and enlightening account of how the
evangelical church has historically mishandled and hurt gay and lesbian
Christians. The damage done over the last forty years is eye opening. While
defending the orthodox biblical sexual ethic, Greg Johnson lays out a healthy
path forward for the church regarding the LGBTQ community that is both biblical
and pastoral. Every Christian (especially leaders in the church) needs to read
this book to better understand this nuanced and complex issue.' -- Becket Cook,
author, A Change of Affection: A Gay Man’s Incredible Story of Redemption; host,
The Becket Cook Show
'This book is a lament for an evangelical road not taken. When it came to the
pastoral care of lesbian and gay people, rather than heed the wisdom of their
own leading lights like John Stott and Francis Schaeffer, many evangelicals
opted instead for sexual orientation change efforts and in the process left a
legacy of pain and confusion that haunts the movement to this day. But this book
is also a clarion call from a prophetic insider who believes that evangelicalism
can change. Anyone wanting to understand better the current evangelical debates
around sexuality--from 'ex-gay' ministries, to 'Side B gay Christians,' to
'mixed-orientation marriages'--should read this book and consider the costly and
courageous witness of its author.' -- Wesley Hill, author, Washed and Waiting
and Spiritual Friendship
'This is a much-needed book for our times. In a refreshing, deeply thoughtful,
and engaging style, this celibate pastor shares his experience of living in the
tides of secular and evangelical Christian thought, language, and behavior in
relation to homosexuality over the last forty years. Here is a strong challenge
to Christians to reflect deeply on how we have drifted away from a truly
biblical approach. Johnson calls the church back to a more compassionate life of
family/community to love and encourage those who are celibate for any reason.
You will not regret taking the time to have your understanding and attitude
transformed by grappling with the vital issues in this well-researched and
excellent book.' -- Richard Winter, Professor Emeritus of Counseling, Covenant
Theological Seminary
'I am in awe of all that Greg achieves so successfully in this incredible book:
a critical history of the ex-gay movement, a culturally sensitive defense of
traditional sexual ethics, a pastoral manifesto for a better future--all wrapped
up in the gospel of grace and accompanied by his own story (and wry sense of
humor). I loved every page and am looking forward to seeing the good it will do
every church leader and member who reads it.' -- Ed Shaw, ministry director,
www.livingout.org; pastor, Emmanuel City Centre, Bristol (UK); author,
Purposeful Sexuality: A Short Christian Introduction
'Greg offers a fast-paced, compelling historical account of the church's failure
to engage LGBT+ people. In missiology, we know that it's so critical to learn
history or else we'll repeat it. And sure enough, today the church risks
returning to culture war over gender identity. While there is still time to
care, there isn't much time! And this time, the next steps we take will impact
our ability to extend Christ to an entire next generation.' -- Bill Henson,
founder and creator, Posture Shift Ministries, Inc.
'As an anti-Christian gay man who decided to follow Jesus, and who was never
exposed to the ex-gay world, I welcome this book as a vital contribution through
the eyes of another gay atheist-turned-Christian who walked harrowingly through
it. Many critiques of the ex-gay world and its theology have been leveraged by
those who take its radical opposite position. Greg Johnson is different. He is
one who has fought and paid the price to remain close to the Lord and in
obedience to his Word and yet to challenge ex-gay theology, dismantle its harm,
and face its complicated and flawed humanity. In this rare window into an
experience that requires greater understanding, Greg points compassionately and
critically to the greater hope of the gospel and the deeper third way that Jesus
provides for the LGBTQI+ community in a world addicted to ideological certainty
and harmful culture-war divides. A must-read.' -- David Bennett, speaker and
writer; author, A War of Loves: The Unexpected Story of a Gay Activist
Discovering Jesus
'In this eye-opening historical account, Greg Johnson paints a charitable yet
harrowing portrait of the ex-gay movement and its residual influence on Western
evangelicalism. Better still, he reminds us of the world that existed before the
ex-gay movement, a world in which following Jesus and pursuing orientation
change were never treated as synonymous. Reading this book has deepened both my
sorrow over the past and my unswerving hope for the future.' -- Gregory Coles,
author, Single, Gay, Christian and No Longer Strangers
'Every so often a book comes along of such consequence that it has the potential
to reshape the discourse of its subject matter. Still Time to Care is such a
book, and I pray that it revolutionizes the evangelical conversation about gay
people and the history of the pastoral care we have received in the North
American church. Combining careful attention to historical detail with incisive
analysis of cultural Christianity, Johnson tells the tragic story of how ex-gay
theology invaded the worldview of evangelical Christians, laying the foundation
for decades of systemic pastoral malpractice. Johnson exposes the theological
rot at the core of ex-gay theology, while also identifying the ways it continues
to shape evangelical discourse today about gay people and our experience. And as
if that were not enough, Johnson draws on his decades-long experience as a
faithful pastor to chart a positive path forward so that all of us can grow
together to become more like Jesus. Still Time to Care is a necessary,
challenging, and deeply hopeful contribution to the ongoing conversation about
the church and gay people.' -- Nate Collins, PhD, president and founder,
Revoice; author, All But Invisible
'Still Time to Care is a thoughtful and helpful clarion call to Christians.
Throughout this book, Greg Johnson takes you on a journey through the church's
controversial approach to the unrelenting gay movement. While mistakes were made
and adversaries earned, Greg shows the way back to a path and practice that is
both God-honoring and people-loving. Caring for others--it is always the Jesus
way.' -- Kyle Idleman, bestselling author, Not a Fan and Don’t Give Up
'In my city, you can always find a sign proclaiming 'Gay Rights Are Human
Rights.' You need to look no further to fully understand the vitriol against the
church. In Still Time to Care, you will be discouraged by the history but
encouraged for the future. Greg Johnson provides answers and solutions. We have
a chance to make things right, upholding God's view of sexuality in a way God
wants us to do it.' -- Caleb Kaltenbach, bestselling author, Messy Grace and
Messy Truth --This text refers to the hardcover edition.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Greg Johnson is Lead Pastor of historic Memorial Presbyterian Church (PCA) in
St. Louis, where he has served on pastoral staff since 2003. He holds a Ph.D. in
Historical Theology with a concentration in American religion from Saint Louis
University and an M.Div. from Covenant Theological Seminary. He is the author of
The World According to God: A Biblical View of Culture, Work, Science, Sex &
Everything Else.
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BECKET COOK, AUTHOR OF A CHANGE OF AFFECTION: A GAY MAN’S INCREDIBLE STORY OF
REDEMPTION AND HOST OF THE BECKET COOK SHOW ON YOUTUBE
"This fascinating book gives a thorough and enlightening account of how the
evangelical church has historically mishandled and hurt gay and lesbian
Christians. The damage done over the last forty years is eye-opening. Greg
Johnson lays out a healthy path forward for the church regarding the LGBTQ
community that is both biblical and pastoral. Every Christian (especially
leaders in the church) needs to read this book in order to better understand
this nuanced and complex issue."
DAVID BENNETT, SPEAKER AND WRITER, AUTHOR OF A WAR OF LOVES: THE UNEXPECTED
STORY OF A GAY ACTIVIST DISCOVERING JESUS
"Many critiques of the ex-gay world and its theology have been leveraged by
those who take its radical opposite position. Greg Johnson is different. He is
one who has fought to remain close to the Lord and obedience to His Word and yet
to challenge ex-gay theology, dismantle its harm and face its complicated and
flawed humanity. In this rare window into an experience that requires greater
understanding, Greg points compassionately and critically to the greater hope of
the Gospel and the deeper third way that Jesus provides for the LGBTQI+
community in a world addicted to ideological certainty and harmful, culture-war
divides. A must read."
DR. RALPH BLAIR, FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT, EVANGELICALS CONCERNED INC.
"After far too many damaging decades of the 'ex-gay' pushers’ bogus claims of
'cure,' Johnson sees there’s 'still time to care' – for those, like himself, who
believe that gay and lesbian behavior is wrong...With a doctorate in historical
theology, Johnson looks into the scandalous history of the 'ex-gay' movement and
the relevant theological issues...Johnson’s insights should be taken as
instruction, not only for gay Christians who’ve not settled these issues, but
for the hierarchies that can be so insensitive."
WESLEY HILL, AUTHOR OF WASHED AND WAITING AND SPIRITUAL FRIENDSHIP
"This book is a lament for an evangelical road not taken, as well as a clarion
call from a prophetic insider who believes that evangelicalism can change.
Anyone wanting to understand better the current evangelical debates around
LGBTQ+ issues—from 'ex-gay' ministries, to 'Side B gay Christians,' to
'mixed-orientation marriages'—should read this book and consider the courageous
witness of its author."
ED SHAW, MINISTRY DIRECTOR, PASTOR, EMMANUEL CITY CENTRE, BRISTOL AND AUTHOR
"I am in awe of all that Greg achieves so successfully in this incredible book -
a critical history of the ex-gay movement, a culturally-sensitive defense of
traditional ethics, a pastoral manifesto for a better future – all wrapped up in
the gospel of grace and accompanied by his own story (and wry sense of humour).
I loved every page and am looking forward to seeing the good it will do every
church leader and member that reads it.”
MARK A. YARHOUSE, PSY.D., DR. ARTHUR P. RECH & MRS. JEAN MAY RECH PROFESSOR OF
PSYCHOLOGY, WHEATON COLLEGE
"Greg Johnson offers a fascinating look into the rise of the ex-gay movement and
the reasons for a diminished ex-gay narrative today. He takes the reader back in
history to key voices evangelicals admired to move the reader forward into a
vision of biblical faithfulness and nuanced pastoral care and communal support
for those who are both gay and Christian.”
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in historical theology with a concentration in American religion from Saint
Louis University and an MDiv from Covenant Theological Seminary. Greg is the
author of Still Time to Care: What We Can Learn from the Church's Failed Attempt
to Cure Homosexuality (2021).
Greg's other works include From Morning Watch to Quiet Time: The Historical and
Theological Development of Private Prayer in Anglo-American Protestant
Instruction, 1870-1950 (diss, 2007) and The World according to God: A Biblical
View of Culture, Work, Science, Sex and Everything Else (2002), also available
in Portuguese. Greg's writings have appeared in Christianity Today, including
his personal testimony, "I Used to Hide My Shame. Now I Take Shelter Under the
Gospel: How a gay atheist teenager discovered Jesus and stopped living
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Still Time to Care, by Greg Johnson shows us how Jesus is both the Lion and the
Lamb. Greg presents the withering critiques of the Lion of Judah against those
who have burdened and abused His people. He also presents the gentle care of the
Lamb of God who offers grace and compassion to the bruised reeds among His
people. Still Time to Care addresses the intersection of non-straight people,
Jesus, the Bible, and the church. Greg explains what the Bible teaches about
sex, marriage, attraction, and orientation. He also provides leadership for
people and churches to shepherd straight and non-straight people with the
gospel. In Still Time to Care, the Bible’s teachings on sexuality are “settings
of silver,” and the applications of those teachings in a community of care are
the “apples of gold” (Proverbs 25:11).
Still Time to Care is written in four parts. Part one is “The Paradigm of Care.”
Here Greg demonstrates that the “ex-gay movement” has not been the church’s main
posture toward the gay community. The ex-gay movement began 40 years ago and
died in 2013. But, prior to the ex-gay movement, there were leading lights from
across the broad range of the church who had a very different posture toward
non-straight followers of Jesus. Greg quotes extensively from C.S. Lewis, Billy
Graham, John Stott, and Francis Schaeffer, showing that each of them practiced
and taught a Paradigm of Care. Nearly every Christian considers at least one of
these four as a father in the faith. This Paradigm of Care manifested itself in
compassion and patience and understanding toward Christians who experienced
romantic attractions toward people of the same sex. These four were radically
different from the ex-gay movement. They did not believe that a person's sexual
orientation should be expected to change when someone committed to following
Jesus. Greg shows that their posture and their practice was to be a deeply
encouraging, “non-anxious presence” with non-straight people who were Christian,
and with non-straight people who weren’t Christian. Their posture shows that the
Paradigm of Care that Greg proposes in this book is not new. Greg's conclusions
and pastoral approach are well-represented throughout the church. Still Time to
Care is a call to return to the posture of a much healthier period of the
church. This part of the book is powerful because many people don’t know that a
significant portion of the church responded to non-straight people in this way.
Part two of the book describes the birth, history, and failure of the ex-gay
movement. Greg describes the ex-gay movement as a Fall: it’s a fall from the
prior Paradigm of Care (Part 1) into what Greg calls the “Paradigm of Cure.”
Prior to this Fall, the best of the church prioritized caring for people who
follow Jesus and experience non-straight attractions. But the ex-gay movement
changed it’s focus and prioritized curing people from their non-straight
attractions. Here, Greg brings convicting exposure and clarity to the
traumatizing damage that people suffered under this Paradigm of Cure. He also
clearly exposes the inexcusable hypocrisy that characterized the ex-gay
movement’s leaders. While he is critical because of the awful things done by the
ex-gay movement, he also does acknowledge that some people experienced some
positive things within it. Some non-straight Christians experienced vulnerable,
honest community for the first time within the ex-gay movement, even if their
attractions didn’t change.
But the majority of the ex-gay movement produced harm and abuse. It was guilty
of heaping burdens on people that even its leaders weren’t able to bear. It was
built upon the foundation of people with testimonies of “orientation
transformation” that were untested. Leaders had little or no theological
training, and most did not yet have proven character. These leaders had hands
laid on them too soon. Their testimonies were platformed in front of a
desperately hopeful community of non-straight people (and their despairing
family members). These testimonies proved to be too simplistic and inauthentic.
Audiences were left believing that orientation transformation was promised in
the gospel and therefore should be expected. These testimonies in effect became
a new law that produced 1) false hope that non-straight people could and should
be “healed” of their non-straight attractions, or 2) condemnation for those who
hadn’t experienced orientation transformation, because they didn’t believe
enough or obey enough. It was similar to the way that people have felt condemned
by ministries that teach that physical healing is available to any Christian who
has enough faith. Greg’s analysis and critique is a warning to the church: We
should be wary against taking some peoples’ experience and universalizing them
as the standard for everyone, especially when those experiences are untested.
Greg’s survey of the birth and death of the ex-gay movement also corrects
another important misunderstanding in the church. Many Christians and
non-Christians today believe that the church’s posture has always been ex-gay.
Greg shows that this is not true. The view of the most prominent Protestant
leaders was not ex-gay prior to the 1970’s. Greg’s paradigm of Care is not new.
It’s a renewal of a time when the church’s response to non-straight believers
was healthy.
In Part three of the book, Greg deals with the Bible’s teaching on sexuality.
Greg’s analysis of the Bible is thorough and illuminating. He demonstrates that
the Bible clearly teaches the traditional sexual ethic--sexual activity was
designed by God for heterosexual marriage. He also demonstrates that taking the
Bible seriously on sexuality also requires opposing the ministry perspectives
and practices of the ex-gay church. You can humbly bow to the authority of Jesus
expressed in the Bible while also rejecting ex-gay convictions. Greg explains
what the Scriptures teach, and he applies it with love and care to people in the
midst of ongoing struggle and confusion.
In Part four, Greg offers a path forward for individuals and the church. Here
Greg describes how the church can remove the abusive thinking, practices, and
culture of the ex-gay movement from the church. We can be free from the errors
of the ex-gay movement, while still being faithful to biblical Christianity. The
church can disciple people to maturity without making orientation change a
requirement or an expectation.
This part ends with a chapter called “Celibacy and Hope.” Here Greg offers a
path that will deeply minister to non-straight people and those who love them.
This path includes a culture of acceptance and challenge that will help the
church to minister to the non-straight community, and every other community that
feels alienated by the church.
A debate has erupted within Greg’s (and my) denomination: the Presbyterian
Church in America. This debate is over whether pastors (or any follower of
Jesus) should call themselves “gay Christians.” Some people want to remove any
pastor from his ministry if he is publicly known to not be straight—even if he
is committed to Jesus’ sexual ethic and is celibate. Greg paves the way for
churches to welcome both sides of this debate. He believes God's family (and
God's leaders) should include people who want to use this phrase and people who
don’t. Greg’s view creates a church where both are worthy of honor and both are
necessary for the church to be fully healthy. I hope that the PCA repents, and
does not ratify its recent decision. I hope it embraces a position that embraces
everyone who is committed to the way of Jesus, no matter what they call
themselves.
Still Time to Care is a book for everyone—straight and non-straight, Christian
and non-Christian. It is for anyone who wants to be a blessing to non-straight
people. It is for anyone trying not to be guilty of the damage of the ex-gay
movement.
This book is compelling, but what is more compelling than Greg’s book is Greg’s
life. His testimony is beautifully told through the book. His humanity and the
way he bears God’s image comes through as a demonstration of an indestructible
life in Jesus. Greg has been committed to an extraordinarily costly obedience.
He has taken up his cross to follow Jesus in a way that is heroic—especially in
our day and age. Many people have rightly divided God’s word on the subject of
sexuality, but in Greg’s life God’s word has become flesh. Anyone who knows him
beholds the glory of Jesus shining through him. Our non-straight brothers and
sisters who are committed to Jesus and His sexual ethic are super-heroes of the
faith. They carry an incredible burden that is misunderstood by much of the
church. They are ridiculed by the world for their commitment to celibacy. They
deserve to be honored and followed. Many are qualified to lead and shepherd the
church. There is still time to care for this community, and Greg’s book shows us
how.
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I picked up Still Time to Care for two reasons.
One, I was wanting to learn more about the history of the Church and its
treatment of same-sex attracted and LGBT people – and how it ought to affect my
ministry today. In my work, I see how different individuals and communities
wrestle with faith and sexuality in different ways, and I can't help but wonder,
"What help can I offer that will really help, and what might seem helpful in my
own eyes but will actually end up harming?" This question both haunts me and
propels me into action, strategic vision, and prayer (and I hope it never stops
doing so).
Two, I had been following the story of Pastor Greg Johnson and know that he
himself is an important figure in how that history is unfolding today. Dr.
Johnson's unique place of influence in the traditional Protestant church as
someone with his particular story is something that deserves attention even
amidst the many ways a person might take issue with him.
While this book was being published, Johnson and his philosophy were under
scrutiny from all "sides" of the faith and sexuality conversation. Some would
say Johnson's celibacy is suppression of self. Others would prefer he take a
"don't ask, don't tell" approach to what he would say is one of the most key
elements of Christ's work in His life. Even within the very denomination in
which he met Jesus, grew up in the faith, and became ordained, he has patiently
endured harsh accusations only to emerge with his integrity intact (see such
instance here:
https://byfaithonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/2020-12-Speck-Decision-on-Complaint-10.21.2021-1.pdf).
Still others remain inspired by Johnson's humility, honestly, and pursuit of
faithfulness toward Jesus both behind closed doors and in the face of public
accusation. Amidst opinions across the spectrum, Greg Johnson remains a
differentiated person and leader, and I respect him and his voice for it.
As someone who also identifies as a Christian, experiences same-sex attraction,
and serves in vocational ministry, I personally relate to much of Greg's
personal experience. I, too, desire to honor God in my sexual stewardship, and
simultaneously to be honest and fully human in the way I pursue relationship and
family. I, too, want to see a path of spiritual formation for same-sex attracted
and LGBTQ+ people that is not rife with friendly fire. (The "straight and narrow
path" Jesus describes is hard enough as it is, and Lord knows we all need
quality support on this journey.) I know that I am far from alone in these dual
desires for faithfulness and honesty, and my awareness of the company I'm in
grows with every passing year – and with every honest and faith-filled literary
work in which we are represented.
Still Time to Care includes Greg's personal story, but it does not center itself
on his personal experience. I appreciate this approach because I've seen how
"gay testimony" stories are commonly exploited by churches (often
unintentionally) to allow churches to feel good about something that happened in
spite of a culture of apathy and decided ignorance. The book, to the contrary,
has hope to inspire churches to face their ignorance with honesty and hope,
moving them toward tangible, embodied care of same-sex attracted and LGBT+
people. The book is both a treatise and meaningful interpretation of historical
events and statistical data on Christian people and faith communities and how
they sought to either care for or "cure" homosexuals.
I was intrigued when I heard that Greg Johnson would be bringing the lived
examples of C.S. Lewis, John Stott, and Francis Schaeffer into his historical
inquiry. I grew up reading these men's works, and to hear that their personal
lives reflected "care" rather than "cure" toward their homosexual peers (as they
were called at the time) pleasantly surprised me.
I was most blown away by Johnson's analysis of Greek art, literature, and
mythology to support his conviction toward a traditional sexual ethic. Some
arguments state that the apostle Paul could not have been condemning same-sex
relationships as we know them today since same-sex relationships in ancient Rome
were by definition exploitative and pederastic. Johnson pulls back the curtain
on ancient relationships in a way I had never considered before to reveal that
it's more complicated than that. Regardless of our personal discernment
processes, understanding the nature of cultures in the ancient world, and the
intent of the instructions of Paul of Tarsus, are historical foundations we
can't ignore if we are exploring the distinct nature of Christianity, the
Christian faith, and the pursuit of God in life and belief and conduct.
On this side of the book cover, I have a greater sense of grounding in history,
in two ways:
As a Christian, I feel more grounded in history as it pertains to my role as a
Christian as history unfolds today. My role is to challenge churches not to
settle for the status quo of "cure," but to commit to taking our place in the
the necessity of "care" among our SSA and queer neighbors. If we are Christian,
to leave a call of Christ unanswered is to reject our God-given identity. And in
this time, our God is calling us to care for our LGBTQ and same-sex attracted
neighbors, relatives, friends, laypersons, and, yes, our clergy. We need to keep
a caring eye and a prayerful hand on LGBTQ+ people who are growing in the faith
and stepping up to the call of leadership.
As someone who identifies within the LGBT+ community, I also feel more grounded
in history. I see more clearly how my fellow LGBTQ+ peers have been hurt by my
faith tradition. I have had a chance to be broken over it in a new way; to own
ways I have participated in apathy toward Q/SSA neighbors; to take my place once
again in the fight against the enemy of our souls to steal the dignity of
image-bearers like me. More than ever, LGBTQ+ people need room to sort out their
lives in community without the threat of exile or psychological harm. I now have
a greater commitment to providing spaces for LGBTQ+ of all spiritual and
religious backgrounds to explore Jesus as they are, and to discover Jesus and
the Good News with a sense of wonder and awe and surprising joy.
I recommend this book for anyone wanting to take an honest look at modern
Protestant church history and to move forward with a vision for healing and
reconciliation in Protestant churches. I left the book disappointed, mainly
asking, "Where are the leaders of color in this movement?" I hope that the
answer will come from the next steps in history as we hear more diverse voices
platformed – and more diverse churches empowered and committed to moving from
cure to care.
Church history unfolded in the cultural contexts of ancient Rome and Greece. It
unfolded in the cultural contexts of C.S. Lewis, John Stott, and Francis
Schaeffer. It unfolded in the cultural contexts of Worthen, Nicolosi, and
Chambers. And now, it continues to unfold with Ron Belgau, Nate Collins, Greg
Johnson, Wesley Hill, Bill Henson, Mark Yarhouse, and importantly, you and me
and the voices around us we respect and value.
Where will we go next? What cultures have yet to care well? What cultures remain
under-resourced and under-educated? These are the questions that I hope will
continue to keep me on my knees in prayer and on my feet in action in my city.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Highly Recommended
Reviewed in Canada on December 14, 2021
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This book is the most thorough, thoughtful and pastoral book on the relationship
Christians and the Church have with members of the LGBTQ community that I have
read to date. As the father of a Gay son I only wish I had this resource when he
had the courage to reveal his orientation to us over 15 years ago. It would have
given us the starting point that we were desperately in need of. And the
starting point, it turns out was not looking at my gay son, NO, It began by
looking in the mirror. This book confronted me with my own hypocrisy regarding
'sexual sin' in my own life and the double standard that most Christians
continue to have not only in relation to the Gay community but 'others' sin in
general. I read recently that the church is the only place where you can go
where people are surprised to discover that there is is a sinner in the pew next
you, in front of you and behind you. Because this double standard is still
rampant in our own lives, not only in regard to sexual sin, the Church is
woefully ill-equipped to be the Beacon of hope to individuals of this community
and any other individual struggling with sin in their life. This book provides a
way forward and reminds us that the Church ought to be the one community that
people of all stripes can stand shoulder to shoulder, hand in hand, not on the
basis of race, health, faithfulness, purity, but only on the basis of God's
Grace which came to each of us and is available to each of us in the person of
His Son our Lord & Savior Jesus Christ. May this Christmas season bring with it
a fresh desire to share the love of Christ with all mankind.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Brilliant book
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on January 29, 2022
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Loved this book. Thank you for a comprehensive, yet compassionate summary and
call to action. As a SSA man I was truly blessed and encouraged by your walk.
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Stephen Selke
4.0 out of 5 stars Very Educational
Reviewed in Canada on June 16, 2022
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I would easily identify myself as a somewhat tone deaf evangelical who often
talks about topics beyond my understanding. It was good to spend time listening
to Greg and many of the stories that he represents. Some parts of the book got
lengthy but overall good book and I would recommend it.
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