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PROBLEM WITH APPLICATIONS FOLDER

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PEPBCN28

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Jun 12, 2013 11 1 Barcelona

 * Dec 6, 2022

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Hi,
I have a Mac with two users, and when an application update was available I was
asked twice (one per user) to update. I thought the folder was the same for both
user and didn't understand why, but today I realize this is not the case.
Right now the folder structure is:
Applications
Library
Users
System: inside system Applications, Library, Developer, DriverKit, IOSSuport,
Volumes

So I understand now I have two Applicactions folders... how can I merge both?
Which one would be the "default" one usually? And if I delete one of the
applications folder, should I change any configuration in the user is using that
folder?

Thanks!
 



NERMAL

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 * Dec 6, 2022

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It's normal to have two Applications folders.

/System/Applications contains the apps that are part of the OS.
/Applications contains apps you have installed yourself.

In Finder, when you view /Applications it will also show you the contents of
/System/Applications in a combined view. If you use Terminal then you'll only
see the files you've added yourself.

There can also be a separate Applications folder inside your user folder (i.e.
/Users/yourname/Applications). I'm not sure whether Finder merges that into the
main Applications folder or not. If you had to update the same app for multiple
users then perhaps it's in there.
 
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GILBY101

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 * Dec 7, 2022

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> Nermal said:
> There can also be a separate Applications folder inside your user folder (i.e.
> /Users/yourname/Applications). I'm not sure whether Finder merges that into
> the main Applications folder or not.
> Click to expand...

It doesn't merge /Users/yourname/Applications.
 


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GILBY101

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Mar 17, 2010 2,405 1,306 Tasmania

 * Dec 7, 2022

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> pepbcn28 said:
> And if I delete one of the applications folder, should I change any
> configuration in the user is using that folder?
> Click to expand...

DO NOT attempt to delete either /Applications or /Sytem/Applications. Hopefully
macOS would prevent you.

> pepbcn28 said:
> I have a Mac with two users, and when an application update was available I
> was asked twice (one per user) to update.
> Click to expand...

Was this an application from the App Store? If so, do the two users have their
own Apple IDs which they use for application payment, install and update?
 
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PEPBCN28

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Jun 12, 2013 11 1 Barcelona

 * Dec 11, 2022

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> gilby101 said:
> DO NOT attempt to delete either /Applications or /Sytem/Applications.
> Hopefully macOS would prevent you.
> 
> Was this an application from the App Store? If so, do the two users have their
> own Apple IDs which they use for application payment, install and update?
> Click to expand...

Both users use the same account for buying apps.

User 1 uses HDD/system/Applications as the main folder, the applications folder
inside the user exists but it's empty
User 2 uses HDD/Applications as the main folder (I dont' know why), the
applications folder inside the user exists but it's empty

So I think I have a redundant Applications folder, the one insider the system
folder or the other one? Is it safe to remove one of the folders with the apps
(they are duplicated)?
 


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GILBY101

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Mar 17, 2010 2,405 1,306 Tasmania

 * Dec 11, 2022

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> pepbcn28 said:
> So I think I have a redundant Applications folder
> Click to expand...

I can only repeat: don't mess with it.

But with recent macOS, it is not possible to write in /System/Applications. What
is your version of macOS?
 
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PEPBCN28

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Monterey
 



NOBOMAC

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 * Dec 12, 2022

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Will echo @gilby101: do not touch /System/Applications, it's part of the sealed
system volume and contains the standard Apple apps.

What I think is going on is that both accounts have their own app update lists,
"~/Library/Application Support/App Store/updatejournal.plist". These files track
installed programs and versions from the Mac App Store. When App Store program
runs for that user to check what needs updates, it compares the values in that
user's file vs what's online. Difference, get the "updates available" notice.

What might work is to make one account the "main" account for updates: go to the
other account and disable in System Preferences software updates. Should stop
any checks and stop getting notifications.
 
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