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PRINCIPAL

2mo


Call me old school but I work in private equity and talk to a lot of MBB and T2
consultants for commercial diligence. Dress code standards have dropped so much
in consulting that sometimes it's hard to take people seriously. Old wrinky
casual shirts, messy hair, etc. (And not only junior consultants!) IMO first
impressions still matter. Some can find it hard to trust the advice on multi
million dollar decisions from people who look like they don't care.


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 1.  MCKINSEY & COMPANY 2
     
     2mo
     
     
     I agree with Principal. I think we should start dressing up again.
     Disgusting, the kind of outfits some colleagues wear to client sites.
     Neither the clients nor the partners can say anything these days, because,
     you know ….
     
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     MCKINSEY & COMPANY 1
     
     4w
     
     
     Mate, I've been waiting for some examples for a while now. For all you know
     my usual getup is anywhere from loincloth and warpaint to white tie...
     
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 2.  MANAGER 1
     
     2mo
     
     
     Virtual or in person?
     
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     MANAGER 1
     
     2mo
     
     
     I'd understand in person but for virtual I won't go beyond the basics:
     putting on a shirt with buttons and a collar
     
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 3.  BOSTON CONSULTING GROUP 1
     
     2mo
     
     
     How about you think about it this way: instead of grooming myself for 1
     hour every day, I spent it refining the analysis
     
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     SENIOR CONSULTANT 1
     
     5w
     
     
     M5...like you even own an iron. You just pick them up from the cleaners
     pressed.
     
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 4.  BOSTON CONSULTING GROUP 2
     
     2mo
     
     
     I feel like this started when the tech industry started luring people away
     from other industries and just got worse with covid
     
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     STRATEGY& 1
     
     2mo
     
     
     Oh yep. Sorry
     
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 5.  BOSTON CONSULTING GROUP 3
     
     2mo
     
     
     This is exactly why talents are going to tech. So much BS on such things
     that add 0 value.
     
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     CONSULTANT 2
     
     4w
     
     
     BCG 3 for the win. Boomers be boomers.
     
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 6.  ASSOCIATE 1
     
     2mo
     
     
     I would be a little embarrassed if I was out dressed by the client. I go
     with a tie and jacket at least for the initial meeting, and adjust based on
     the overall vibe
     
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     MANAGER 8
     
     4w
     
     
     I don’t think I’ve seen a tie in 10 years. And it was a consultant who was
     the overdressed on on his team. If I saw one now I’d think they’re out of
     touch
     
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 7.  STRATEGY& 1
     
     2mo
     
     
     Agree with OP. I’ve never had an issue with my teams, but I’d definitely
     have a conversation with staff if needed
     
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 8.  BAIN & COMPANY 1
     
     2mo
     
     
     Yeah I agree. Some of the calls I'm on it's not just that they look like
     they don't care, it's that they don't wash... We're not talking about
     people not wearing suit & tie, we're talking about people wearing hoodies
     with yesterday's food stains on them... obviously not at Bain though, we
     all look great ;)
     
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 9.  SENIOR CONSULTANT 1
     
     2mo
     
     
     Looks do matter. Bet everyone dishing on dress has a prestige marker...
     type of phone, smart watch, brand of tennis shoe, brand of backpack. You
     have just decided to delude yourself into thinking what you wear doesn't
     /shouldn't matter in a work setting. Try that next time you want to go out
     for a high-end dinner.....never mind the restaurant... just getting past
     your SO.
     
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     EY-PARTHENON 1
     
     3w
     
     
     Haha jeez really struck a cord with an Apple watch enthusiast calling me a
     loser, hope you get some steps in today 🤣
     
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 10. PRODUCT MANAGER 1
     
     2mo
     
     
     Haha I had the exact opposite issue when I was at MBB. Partners and
     engagement team consistently overdressed compared to the clients, didn't
     get the hint (I picked it up Day 1 and adjusted accordingly even though the
     rest of my team made snide comments) , and had to be forcibly told by
     senior stakeholder to ditch the ties and snobbiness. It goes both ways.
     
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     BOSTON CONSULTING GROUP 4
     
     4w
     
     
     This sounds more specific than just MBB lol
     
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 11. MCKINSEY & COMPANY 4
     
     2mo
     
     
     Yes it should matter. I saw interns show up day one with a wrinkled
     untucked polo and sneakers. Mind blowing. - not a boomer
     
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     SENIOR CONSULTANT 1
     
     5w
     
     
     in office and at client are different animals these days. In office matters
     less. , and big difference between casual and slovenly. And if you think it
     won't impact come promotion time, you're crazy.
     
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 12. MCKINSEY & COMPANY 5
     
     5w
     
     
     Agreed. I am 30, coming from tech (where I wore jeans and sweaters to
     work), and I am finding that many people here adopted a bit of the tech
     standards. We are advising clients on very serious matters - I want to give
     the impression that I am at the top of my game and in full professional
     mode through my clothes. We do have a dress code to match the highest
     ranking direct client (usually CEO or COO) but many people my age seem to
     not care.
     
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     SENIOR PRINCIPAL 1
     
     4w
     
     
     I haven't seen a c-level client wear a tie in years. Even suits are rare
     now. It's all polos and collared shirts for the men.
     
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 13. CONSULTANT 1
     
     5w
     
     
     If we do it long enough then it becomes the new standard and nobody cares
     anymore
     
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     CONSULTANT 2
     
     4w
     
     
     Thank you for common sense!
     
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     MEGAN WARD
     
     5w
     
     
     Man I'm going to get crucified as a millennial who agrees: first
     impressions count. You don't wear Hawaiian shirts to a Catholic funeral.
     
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     CONSULTANT 2
     
     4w
     
     
     Yeah, better cosplay as a church choir boy ;)
     
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 15. BAIN & COMPANY 2
     
     5w
     
     
     At Bain we don’t enforce a degree of professionalism with the dress code
     but we do have a drip-ometer. If your outfit isn’t fucking fire the
     drip-ometer goes off and you immediately get put on a diligence. BCG and
     McK do something similar but at BCG you get fired and McK frames you for a
     crime.
     
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     WE AR
     
     4w
     
     
     Wtf? DD a punishment for bad dress? I love DDs. 2 years non-stop PEG.
     Nothing drives project reps better. Carrot, not stick. You must be an ATL
     red Bainie neck?
     
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 16. MANAGER 6
     
     4w
     
     
     T2 here - our office is next to Google‘s. Googlers are arguable much better
     dressed than our consultants. But well - you pay peanuts, you get…
     
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     STRATEGY& 1
     
     4w
     
     
     There’s now a pretty sizable difference between T2 and MBB. We didn’t match
     the latest rounds of income updates.
     
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 17. MCKINSEY & COMPANY 7
     
     4w
     
     
     God I need to get out of client service
     
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 18. BAIN & COMPANY 3
     
     4w
     
     
     Professional dress code requirements are stupid and if your first
     impressions are based on that, you’re wrong
     
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     SENIOR CONSULTANT 1
     
     4w
     
     
     Try to convince me that you never in your life drawn an impression of a
     person by how they look when you first meet them. You may change it later,
     but that's how life works. First impressions are just that. First
     impressions and they are comprised of first inputs, auditory, visual, and
     olfactory.
     
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 19. CONSULTANT 2
     
     4w
     
     
     Just look like? I have some news for ya, we do not care 🤣
     
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 20. ASSOCIATE PARTNER 1
     
     4w
     
     
     It’s so weird to me to hear people say a nonsensical bias out loud, and
     then see it as the other party’s fault. Instead of saying “I realized today
     that how someone is dressed impacts how seriously I take their insights…
     jeez, I should work on that.”
     
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     BAIN & COMPANY 4
     
     3w
     
     
     I would apply the logic of pronouns here. The idea of pronouns is to remove
     barriers to people engaging with you fully. That is the same logic as
     wearing business clothing.
     
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