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Speaker Asylum General speaker questions for audio and home theater. Register / Login -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] Thread: [ Display All Email ] [ Speaker Asylum ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Alert Moderator ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS Posted by Pat Tobin (P ) on January 8, 2008 at 17:50:24 In Reply to: BOZAK SPEAKERS posted by phishnjosh on December 11, 2007 at 12:44:36: > Hi Folks. Having just returned to 'the faithful' at AA, I want to tell what > everyone should know about Bozak speakers. > > I first heard Bozaks in 1954, as a callow youth of course. I worked at a shop > that sold them in the late '50s. > > In the early '60s, Bozak ran into a sales problem. The dealers were hollering > that the Bozaks weren't 'first time' buys. Most new buyers chose a flashier > sound than the ultra-smooth early Bozaks. After living with their first choice > a while, many came back and said, "Uh...Could I hear those Bozaks again?" That > was OK with Rudy Bozak, who knew he would get most of them eventually. But it > wasn't OK with the dealers. > > Bozak reacted to the pressure and 'tarted up' the sound so that it was a bit > more flashy and would appeal to first time buyers. Problem was, in doing so > they ruined the midrange smoothness and imaging. And there is a broad hump in > the middle highs centered around 5 kHz (the artificial > 'brightness hump'), but the upper highs roll off above 10 kHz. I'll never > forget the first time I heard a pair of the 'new ones.' It literally made me > sick with disappointment. They no longer had the real 'Bozak Sound.' I > continued to use the older ones at home. > > Some years later, in the late '80s, I found time to analyze what they had > done. As a pro audio engineer, I designed the fixes to the xovers. My mods > remove all the mischief that Bozak had done in response to lagging sales. (Sad > to say, Rudy Bozak had passed away in early '82 and anyhow, the company had > been sold in mid '77.) > > Here's the clincher: Few, today, have heard the 'real' Bozak sound. With the > world-class drivers free to sing, unemcumbered, in their full, natural voices. > If you think you like the Bozak sound, "you ain't heard nothin' yet." You > should hear them with the corrections. It is an amazing transformation. > > I have been rebuilding/modifying Bozak xovers for several years as a service. > Without exception, every user has proclaimed great satisfaction. But my mods > are not secret. It was not my mission to help Bozak sell speakers in the '60s > through '80s. But it is my mission to put them straight, free of the > artificial bells and whistles which Bozak thought were necessary to sell in > the day. I believe, to the core of my being, that if Rudy had not been faced > with the problem of making speakers that were too good for the market, the > xovers would have been done exactly the same as I now do. I do it not to > 'correct' Rudy Bozak, but to honor him by letting present-day owners hear what > those fantastic drivers will REALLY do. > > My xover rebuilds are very moderate in cost. If you're interested, jerk my > chain at the email address. For those who want to 'roll their own,' I am happy > to provide the circuit and information at no cost. > > BTW, it is a terribly erroneous myth that Bozaks are 'mellow.' They are > whatever you feed into them, more so than any other speaker I have heard. They > have incredible transient response if driven with enough power. The midrange > driver, for example, has a motor (magnet and magnetic plate size, voice coil > diameter etc.) the same size as that of the woofer. All that power to drive an > extremely light. I liken it to putting a hemi V8 in a VW bug, the power to > weight ratio is stupendous. If the recorded sound has bite and an edge, that's > exactly what you will hear, without sacrificing any overall smoothness. > > The 'mellow' judgment about Bozaks might be due, in part, to the B-207 2-way > systems, an economical way to get into Bozaks. The midrange driver and full > 3-way xover could be added when finances permitted. But some didn't, and the > 207's, while very smooth and full, lack the brilliance and bite of the world > class B-209B midrange driver. Also, the early paper-coned midrange and > tweeters were not as bright and powerful as the later aluminum-coned ones. > > I am happy to answer any and all Bozak questions. And I'm on Vintage and > Amp/Preamp Asylums to talk electronic issues. > > With best New Year wishes to all, > > Pat Tobin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This post is made possible by the generous support of people like you and our > sponsors: VH Audio -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Follow Ups Full Thread > Please enable JavaScript to allow Full Thread view. > Topic - BOZAK SPEAKERS - phishnjosh 12:44:36 12/11/07 (22) > > > * RE: BOZAK SPEAKERS - 6bq5 19:47:14 11/20/16 (0) > > > > * THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - Pat Tobin 17:50:24 01/08/08 (20) > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - SgreenP@MSN.com 18:58:42 11/20/16 (0) > > > > * Bozak Urbans - audiogatorjim 18:02:48 11/20/16 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - bcall5704 17:04:26 06/04/14 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - ffran9 19:07:19 04/02/14 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - lachber-64 19:51:14 07/16/13 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - nazzaretta 13:48:46 06/29/13 (0) > > > > * I can tell you a story - fin1bxn@msn.com 05:06:13 11/19/12 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - stantonguy 10:20:09 11/18/12 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - thebordas 19:46:17 03/22/12 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - ponchojack 12:50:36 03/22/12 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - EMMCO 08:03:26 01/13/11 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - Stephen OPalick 04:15:04 09/19/10 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - Bobj 11:15:22 07/01/10 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - jocksbarjet 21:18:22 03/17/10 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - thebordas 09:15:55 02/04/10 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - jeaniejukebox 16:59:38 02/02/10 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - DE Wetmore 19:45:52 07/26/09 (0) > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - edteachout 09:33:05 03/26/11 (0) > > > > * These things like VINTAGE tube amps - 25 wpc - bad becca 20:07:26 > 01/13/11 (0) > > > > > > * Need to know - Danno 05:23:53 08/13/08 (0) > > > > > > Follow Ups > > * THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - Pat Tobin 17:50:24 01/08/08 (20) > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - SgreenP@MSN.com 18:58:42 11/20/16 (0) > > > > * Bozak Urbans - audiogatorjim 18:02:48 11/20/16 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - bcall5704 17:04:26 06/04/14 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - ffran9 19:07:19 04/02/14 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - lachber-64 19:51:14 07/16/13 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - nazzaretta 13:48:46 06/29/13 (0) > > > > * I can tell you a story - fin1bxn@msn.com 05:06:13 11/19/12 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - stantonguy 10:20:09 11/18/12 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - thebordas 19:46:17 03/22/12 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - ponchojack 12:50:36 03/22/12 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - EMMCO 08:03:26 01/13/11 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - Stephen OPalick 04:15:04 09/19/10 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - Bobj 11:15:22 07/01/10 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - jocksbarjet 21:18:22 03/17/10 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - thebordas 09:15:55 02/04/10 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - jeaniejukebox 16:59:38 02/02/10 (0) > > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - DE Wetmore 19:45:52 07/26/09 (0) > > > * RE: THE BOZAK GUY SPEAKS - edteachout 09:33:05 03/26/11 (0) > > > > * These things like VINTAGE tube amps - 25 wpc - bad becca 20:07:26 > 01/13/11 (0) > > > > > > * Need to know - Danno 05:23:53 08/13/08 (0) > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FAQ POST A MESSAGE! 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