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‘I’M NOT LOOKING FOR CONFLICT’: BIDEN DISCUSSES THREE-HOUR MEETING WITH XI

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Bali, Indonesia CNN  — 

President Joe Biden held a three-hour talk Monday with his Chinese counterpart
Xi Jinping, their first in-person encounter since Biden took office and an
opportunity that both sides appeared to hope would lead to an improvement in
rapidly deteriorating relations.

Emerging afterward, Biden told reporters he was “open and candid” with Xi about
the range of matters where Beijing and Washington disagree. He cast doubt on an
imminent invasion of self-governing Taiwan, and seemed hopeful his message about
avoiding all-out conflict was received.

Still, the US president was frank that he and Xi came nowhere near resolving the
litany of issues that have helped drive the US-China relationship to its lowest
point in decades.

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“I’m not suggesting this is kumbaya,” Biden said at a news conference, “but I do
not believe there’s a need for concern, as one of you raised a legitimate
question, a new Cold War.”

Biden entered Monday’s talks hoping for an opportunity to take stock with Xi of
the world’s most important bilateral relationship. He described Xi as not overly
confrontational but instead “the way he’s always been: direct and
straightforward.”

US President Joe Biden is seen on the sidelines of the ASEAN summit in Phnom
Penh, Cambodia, on November 13, 2022.
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“He was clear, and I was clear that we will defend American interests and
values, promote universal human rights and stand up for the international order
and work in lockstep with our allies and partners,” Biden said. “We’re going to
compete vigorously but I’m not looking for conflict.”

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In a sign both men arrived to meeting hoping to improve the souring
relationship, Biden announced his Secretary of State Antony Blinken would visit
China and said officials from each country would begin working together through
issues. Formal talks on climate cooperation between the US and China are
expected to resume as well as part of a broader set of agreements between Biden
and Xi, two US officials tell CNN.

China previously halted talks – viewed by the Biden administration as a key area
where the two nations must work together – as part of retaliation for the visit
to Taiwan by Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi. The US and Chinese envoys for
climate change are talking, but the Biden administration will see what China is
prepared to do to make concrete progress, one of the US officials said.

US Climate Envoy John Kerry’s spokesperson did not respond to a request for
comment on whether formal climate talks between the two countries were back on.

The White House said in a statement after the meeting that Biden raised concerns
about human rights and China’s provocations around Taiwan. But they found at
least one area of apparent agreement – that nuclear weapons cannot be used in
Ukraine, where that nation is trying to fight off a Russian invasion.

“President Biden and President Xi reiterated their agreement that a nuclear war
should never be fought and can never be won,” a White House readout said,
referring to the threat of nuclear weapons use in Ukraine.

Biden did underscore areas of potential cooperation with Xi, including on
climate change, in talks that stretched past their expected time at a luxury
hotel in Bali.

And he sought to convince Xi that a nuclear armed North Korea was not in China’s
interests – particularly because further nuclear or long-range missile tests by
Pyongyang could prompt Biden to scale up American military presence in the
region.

“It’s difficult to determine whether or not China has the capacity” to convince
Kim Jong Un to back off his tests, Biden said. “I’m confident China is not
looking for North Korea to engage in further escalatory means.”


‘GOOD TO SEE YOU’

The meeting began in the later afternoon with Biden and Xi walking toward each
other from opposite sides of a hotel lobby, shaking hands in front of a row of
US and Chinese flags. They smiled for cameras and Xi – through a translator –
appeared to say, “Good to see you.”

President Joe Biden, left, and Chinese leader Xi Jinping.
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What's at stake for the world's top two economies as Biden and Xi meet

“As leaders of our two nations, we share responsibility, in my view, to show
that China and the United States can manage our differences, prevent competition
from becoming anything ever nearing conflict and to find ways to work together
on urgent global issues that require our mutual cooperation,” Biden said as the
talks got underway.

“The world expects, I believe, China and the United States to play key roles in
addressing global challenges,” he said.

Speaking second, Xi seemed to offer what could be interpreted as a pointed
message to his counterpart, who has spent more than half-a-century on the world
stage.

“A statesman should think about and know where to lead his country,” Xi said
through a translator. “He should also think about and know how to get along with
other countries and the wider world.”

The two leaders’ talks Monday could have consequences stretching months or even
years as the world’s largest economies veer toward increasingly hostile
relations.

The moments spent together on the sidelines of the Group of 20 summit here will
amount to only a fraction of the time the two men have been in each other’s
company since 2011. Biden has claimed that as vice president, he spent north of
70 hours with Xi and traveled 17,000 miles with him across China and the United
States – both exaggerations, but still reflective of a relationship that is now
perhaps the most important on the planet.

U.S. President Joe Biden meets with Chinese President Xi Jinping on the
sidelines of the G20 leaders' summit in Bali, Indonesia, November 14, 2022.
REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque
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CHINA WARNS US NOT TO CROSS ‘RED LINE’ OVER TAIWAN

Xi stated that Taiwan is the “first red line” that “must not be crossed” in
China-US relations, according to a Chinese foreign ministry readout.

Referring to the “Taiwan question” as the “very core of China’s core interests”
and “the bedrock of the political foundation” of China-US relations, Xi stated
that peace and stability across the Taiwan strait and “Taiwan independence” is
“as irreconcilable as water and fire.”

China’s ruling Communist Party has long claimed the self-ruled democracy of 24
million as an inseparable part of its territory, despite having never ruled over
it, and has pledged to take it back – by force if necessary.

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In the meeting, Xi stated that basic norms of international relations and the
three Sino-US joint communiques – which touches on the Taiwan issue – are the
“most important guardrail and safety net” for bilateral relations and are
“vitally important” for the two sides to “manage differences and disagreements
and prevent confrontation and conflict.”

“We hope that the US side will match its words with action and abide by the
one-China policy and the three joint communiques. President Biden has said on
many occasions that the US does not support ‘Taiwan independence’ and has no
intention to use Taiwan as a tool to seek advantages in competition with China
or to contain China. We hope that the US side will act on this assurance to real
effect,” according to the readout.

Xi also defended China’s human rights records and governance system, saying that
China has “Chinese-style democracy” that fits its national conditions, according
to the readout. He acknowledged the differences between China and the US, but
stressed that they should not become “an obstacle to growing China-US
relations.”

“The Chinese nation has the proud tradition of standing up for itself.
Suppression and containment will only strengthen the will and boost the morale
of the Chinese people,” the readout said.


A MEETING LONG IN THE MAKING

The meeting Monday took place at a remarkably low moment in US-China ties. Biden
hoped coming face-to-face again after nearly two years communicating only by
phone and video-conference can yield a more strategically valuable result, even
if he entered the talks with little expectation they would produce anything
concrete.

Relations have deteriorated rapidly amid economic disputes and an increasingly
militarized standoff over Taiwan. The tensions have led to a decline in
cooperation on areas where the two countries once shared common interests, like
combating climate change and containing North Korea’s nuclear program.

US Vice President Joe Biden and Chinese President Xi Jinping toast during a
State Luncheon for China hosted by US Secretary of State John Kerry on September
25, 2015 at the Department of State in Washington, DC. AFP PHOTO/PAUL J.
RICHARDS (Photo credit should read PAUL J. RICHARDS/AFP via Getty Images)
Paul J. Richards/AFP/Getty Images

Biden and Xi return to the table with high stakes -- and low expectations

In a national security strategy document released last month, Biden for the
first time identified China as posing “America’s most consequential geopolitical
challenge,” and wrote the country was the “only competitor with both the intent
to reshape the international order and, increasingly, the economic, diplomatic,
military, and technological power to advance that objective.”

There was almost no expectation among American officials that any of those
issues could be resolved simply by getting Biden and Xi in the same room. Just
arranging the meeting itself required US and Chinese officials to establish
lines of communication after Beijing furiously cut off most channels following
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan over the summer.

“Every matter associated with this meeting, from phone calls to logistics, has
been very carefully considered, negotiated, and engaged between the two sides,”
a senior US administration official said.

Planning for Monday’s meeting predated Pelosi’s trip, and discussions continued
between US and Chinese officials despite Beijing’s furor. The process was
“serious, very sustained and professional in the best traditions of US-China
diplomacy,” the official said.

A second official acknowledged the talks setting up the meeting were not always
friendly.

“I won’t say that the conversations weren’t contentious because obviously
there’s lots of areas where we have differences and challenges,” the official
said. “The dozens of hours we have spent talking to our Chinese counterparts has
definitely surfaced many of those issues.”

For his part, Biden takes meetings like this “incredibly seriously” and reads
extensively beforehand. In meetings with advisers, he runs through various
scenarios for how the meeting might go.

“He goes through ‘if this happens, then should we handle it this way,’” the
first official said. “He understands that this is, in many respects, the most
important bilateral relationship. And it’s his responsibility to manage it well
and he takes that very, very seriously.”

Officials said in Monday’s meeting they expected Biden’s senior-most advisers to
accompany him as part of his official delegation. And they said they expected Xi
to similarly surround himself with top aides, though the US team entered the
meeting expecting to see some new faces on the Chinese side amid an ongoing
transition inside Xi’s inner circle.

Chinese President Xi Jinping waves after his speech as the new Politburo
Standing Committee members meet the media following the 20th National Congress
of the Communist Party of China, at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing,
China October 23, 2022.
Tingshu Wang/Reuters

China's Xi is more powerful than ever. What does it mean for the world?


BIDEN AND XI ENTERED THE MEETING WITH MOMENTUM

For Xi, the trip to Bali also marked one of his first journeys abroad since the
onset of the Covid pandemic, which prompted the Chinese government to impose
strict lock downs and draconian restrictions. Xi’s reemergence on the physical
world stage also comes on the heels of China’s Communist Party Congress in
Beijing, during which he secured a norm-breaking third term as its leader.

Even a week ago, most inside the White House were expecting Biden to enter the
talks comparatively weakened by Democratic losses in the midterm elections. But
better-than-expected results for Democrats left the president feeling as if he
was entering his meetings this week with the wind at his back, according to top
aides.

“I know I’m coming in stronger, but I don’t need that,” Biden said of his own
improved political fortunes on Saturday.

US officials previewing the meeting have stressed the Biden administration is
not looking to come out of it with specific “deliverables,” including a joint
statement listing areas of potential cooperation. Rather, the setting is aimed
at offering both Biden and Xi a significant opportunity to better share their
respective countries’ goals and perspectives.

“Xi is not an enigma to President Biden,” a senior administration official told
CNN. “He knows him. And he is mindful of where Xi is trying to take China. He
sees China as a competitor, and he feels confident the US can win that
competition.”

China’s pandemic-era isolation, US officials say, had made it relatively harder
in recent years to get a read on Beijing’s intentions abroad as Xi declined to
travel outside of China – but they believe that is all about to change.

“We can expect them to be more assertive on the world stage,” the senior
administration said. But, they added: “What that looks like is difficult to know
right now.”

Sullivan said this week that finally substituting the pandemic-era video calls
with a face-to-face meeting for the first time since Biden took office “takes
the conversation to a different level strategically and allows the leaders to
explore in deeper detail what each of them see in terms of their intentions and
priorities.”

CNN’s Phil Mattingly, Wayne Chang, Betsy Klein, Ella Nilsen, Kylie Atwood and
Allison Malloy contributed to this report


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