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* About * Archive * Advertise * Contact * RSS * Testimonials * * * * * Advertise Here * PCs * EVs * home tech * efficiency * virtualization * storage * EV videos * all videos * more * VMWARE VSPHERE 7 UPDATE 3 AND MICROSOFT WINDOWS 11 BOTH ARRIVED ON OCTOBER 5 2021, MANY GREAT LESSONS LEARNED THE HARD WAY BUT TESTING IS GOING WELL Posted by Paul Braren on Oct 8 2021 (updated on Oct 28 2021) in ESXi HowTo Virtualization VMUGAdvantage vSphere7 Windows 2 Comments -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To my delight and surprise, both VMware vSphere 7.0 Update 3 and Microsoft Windows 11 went GA on the same exact day, October 5 2021! Windows 11 has had quite a bit of attention since it's release as a Windows Insider Preview, and much of the controversy has surrounded the ability to run it under systems without TPM 2.0 or with CPUs as little as 3 years old. All that aside, what about running it as a VM? Specifically, does it work fine under VMware vSphere, using the latest ESXi 7.0 Update 3? Let's find out! For some context here, back on August 2 2021, Al Rasheed asked me if this helps, in response, I wrote: > It sure does, thank you @al_rasheed! > > I've prepended a link to Al's clean-install-from-ISO method > https://TinkerTry.com/windows-11-as-ws-11-as-a-vmware-esxi-vm > > It'll be interesting to see if UEFI, Secure Boot, and maybe even vTPM > https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-vSphere/7.0/com.vmware.vsphere.vm_admin.doc/GUID-A43B6914-E5F9-4CB1-9277-448AC9C467FB.html > will all be required once Windows 11 goes GA late 2021 Of course, I was like a kid in a candy store this week, downloading all those bits to get cracking on some serious home lab testing, in hopes of soon declaring these fresh bits TinkerTry'd. Finally the uncertainty about CPU and TPM restrictions would soon be resolved, with all the tools needed to get some answers for myself. Not only was I curious about whether it would all work out, but would both work well super popular SuperServers Bundles? I use two of these actively on a daily basis, Bundle 1 Xeon D-1567 12 core as my primary Windows 10 Workstation, Bundle 2 Xeon D-1541 8 core as my VMware vSphere Datacenter. Both are based on the Supermicro SuperServer SYS-5028D-TN4T mini tower. INITIAL LAB TESTS 1. UPDATE VSPHERE ON XEON D-1541 - get VCSA and ESXi both updated to 7U3 2. UPDATE WIN 11 VM - get my Windows 11 Developer Preview updated to Windows Version 21H2 (OS Build 22000.194), easy, Windows Update took care of that 3. FRESH INSTALL WIN 11 VM - get a fresh install of Windows 11 going in my new vSphere 7.0 U3 lab, see if Windows 11 shows in the drop-down menu, and experiment with ways around TPM 4. FRESH INSTALL WIN 11 ON XEON-D-1567 - download the Windows 11 ISO, edit my registry, and beat my unsupported CPU and TPM-less Supermicro SuperServer to run Windows That 4th topic will be covered in a future article, it's going well so far. After multiple failures, ultimately this technique got the job done, albeit at the risk of a loss of support from Microsoft. Until I get that written, I'll just note here that downloading a replacement appraiserres.dll or editing my windows installation ISO was not of any interest to me personally, the risk is just too high. Editing the registry of running Windows or Windows installer is legit, and documented by Microsoft. That said, what ultimately worked for me for my upgrade from Windows 10 was done using a legible PowerShell tweak, followed by a very normal upgrade. Unfortunately, because of the reboot, my Camtasia screen recording of that process was lost. Very bummed about this, as usually Camtasia Recorder can recover recordings after a reboot stops recording, but not this time. VMWARE HARDWARE VMware vSphere works well on Xeon D-1500 systems, and it's already on the VMware Hardware Compatibility Guide here, which means that even after 6 years, you are still able to open a trouble ticket and get official VMware support should the need arise, this is great! VMWARE SOFTWARE Generic "before" ATTO screenshot at left, Phison v1.5.0.0 "after" ATTO screenshot after reboot, at right. My testing of VMware vSphere 7.0 Update 3 has gone more smoothly than all prior 7.x releases, this is good! Some minor issues noted below. In the image up at the top of this article, you'll see a red "Backup job status" warning. For mysterious reasons, my daily backups stopped working after the upgrade, I need to spend some time figuring out why, or just reconfigure the daily scheduled backups using VAMI to see if I can get them going again. You'll also notice a Skyline Health warning, it's just the generic "Concurrent-context attack vector vulnerability in Intel processors" warning you'd get on most any home lab system that haven't had every single hardware and software risk mitigation strategy applied. Oct 12 2021 UPdate - I tried reconfiguring my VCSA backups, and I get "Path not exported by the remote filesystem." error On my Windows 11 workstation (not VM), I use a 4TB Sabrent SB-ROCKET-4TB M.2 NVMe drive. I also noticed that replacing the generic Windows NVMe driver that the Phison NVMe Drver v1.5.0.0 gives a nice performance boost, but is also breaks the ability for Sabrent Rocket Control Panel from "seeing" my drive at all now, so its native speed and firmware checker functionality is broken. WINDOWS HARDWARE I have the ability to add a TPM 2.0 chip to my SuperServer, but I wanted to see whether folks who don't have one could install Windows 11 anyway. The answer is yes, details below. I don't have the ability to change my CPU for this SoC (System on Chip) Xeon D-1500 design, so I'm not going to be supported by Microsoft whether I do the TPM override, CPU override, or both. See screenshot at right, the results of running the latest Oct 7 version of Microsoft's PC Health Check. WINDOWS SOFTWARE I haven't notice any bugs of the showstopper variety, at least not yet. I'm running both Windows 11 VMs and a Windows 11 bare metal (upgrade) install on my Xeon D-1567. I've definitely noticed some triple-monitor window placement handling advancements that I'm quite fond of already, read below for details. As for cosmetic stuff, I noticed: 1. Under Personalization, Taskbar, my "When using multiple displays, show my taskbar apps on" was set to "Taskbar where window is open", but before the upgrade, it was set to "Main taskbar and taskbar where window is open" 2. SoftPerfect Networx no longer shows a Taskbar graph, and no newer version than 6.2.10 is available, with Windows 11 not in their list of operating systems yet either. The rest of the product functionality works just fine. Sadly, this isn't just a known issue, but since Microsoft removed the extension functionality from the Taskbar, it's unlikely to be fixable. So my answers below are focused on the first 3 lab tests listed above. I learned a bunch these past 48 hours, and took some notes right on Twitter that you might find helpful, listed sequentially below. I've also copy and pasted the tweets below as well, to make it easier to find this information right here at TinkerTry. I've also recorded a new video below using an alternative technique Install Windows 11 as VM on VMware vSphere / Workstation without TPM 2.0 chipset by Ivo Beerens. He's gone and written another article already, see also equally spectacular Install Windows 11 on VMware vSphere with a virtual TPM, where he starts by saying: > Yesterday I wrote a blog called "Install Windows 11 as VM on VMware vSphere / > Workstation without TPM 2.0 chipset". In this blog article, I explained how to > install Windows 11 without having a TPM 2.0 chipset by using a registry hack. > Paul Braren from tinkertry.com created a cool video (link) about installing > Windows 11 on VMware vSphere using my blog article. Bob Plankers (@plankers) > replied on Twitter that virtual TPM can be used too. Thank you Ivo, it's helpful members of the #vCommunity like you that make blogging so much fun for all of us! Please let us know if you have questions by dropping a comment below this article, and thank you for your readership! VIDEO TinkerTry - Oct 06 2021 - Smoothly moving from VMware vCenter 7.0.x to 7.0 Update 3 TinkerTry - Oct 06 2021 - IvoBeerens.NL 's "Install Windows 11 as VM on VMware vSphere without TPM 2.0 chipset" TinkerTry - Aug 01 2021 - How to get Windows 11 Insider Preview running as a VMware ESXi 7 VM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OCT 28 2021 UPDATE I discovered this KB 86069 today, no more mystery why my daily backups are failing! * VAMI Backup with SMB reports error: "Path not exported by the remote filesystem" (86069) kb.vmware.com/s/article/86069 > Cause > This is a known issue on vCenter 7.0 Update 3. > Impact / Risks > VAMI backup fails when using SMB as protocol. > Resolution > VMware Engineering is aware of this issue, it is currently under > investigation. > Please subscribe to the KB article to get notified on changes. Also, after using VAMI to update to VCSA 7.0U3a, the issue is still there, so it's not mentioned in the release notes. Here's my related Oct 22 tweet: > VMware vCenter Server 7.0 Update 3a Release Notes > https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-vSphere/7.0/rn/vsphere-vcenter-server-70u3a-release-notes.html > VCSA 7.0.3.00100 > > Many changes, this good one caught my eye, likely applies to new Windows 11 > VMs as well! See also > https://twitter.com/paulbraren/status/1446152223193538562 > https://TinkerTry.com/vsphere-70u3-are-70u3-and-windows-11-lessons-learned > https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/2147714 > > @MyVMUG #homelab -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SEE ALSO AT TINKERTRY * All vSphere 7 articles * All vSphere 7 videos * VMware vSphere 7.0 Update 3 is now GA, here's how to download it any which way! Oct 06 2021 * How to get Windows 11 Insider Preview running as a VMware ESXi 7 VM Aug 01 2021 * How to update any VMware ESXi Hypervisor to the latest using ESXCLI for easy download and install Aug 14 2018, updated Aug 20 2019 //tinkertry.com/task-manager-resource-monitor-deep-dive-windows-server-2012-and-windows-8)** Sep 07 2012 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SEE ALSO * Securing Virtual Machines with Virtual Trusted Platform Module Updated Dec 15 2020 at VMware Docs > With the Virtual Trusted Platform Module (vTPM) feature, you can add a TPM > 2.0 virtual cryptoprocessor to a virtual machine. > > A vTPM is a software-based representation of a physical Trusted Platform > Module 2.0 chip. A vTPM acts as any other virtual device. You can add a > vTPM to a virtual machine in the same way you add virtual CPUs, memory, > disk controllers, or network controllers. A vTPM does not require a > hardware Trusted Platform Module chip. SOCIAL CACHED 1 > 1/ @VMware vSphere 7.0 Update 3 & @Microsoft Windows 11 both arrived Oct 5, > already TinkerTry'd in my #homelab! > Draft notes: > > * no Win11 type when deploying VM, just use "Windows 10 (64-bit)" > * no issue installing 7.0U3's VMware Tools 11.3.0 in that Win11 VM > * local account works 2 > 2/ Current @Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows 5.0.0.4301 doesn't support > Win11, follow https://veeam.com/kb4215 for updates, my basic #homelab testing > with Win11 beta showed backup & restore seemed to work. Do NOT expect support > yet, just wait for next release/full support. 3 > 3/ Win 11's TPM 2.0 & CPU requirements have bypass procedures, unsupported. > Testing w/ Xeon D-1500 > @supermicro SYS-5028D-TN4T soon. > 1st method is TPM bypass by regedit at install > https://twitter.com/ibeerens/status/1445709392423178241 - @ibeerens > https://youtu.be/wh-KoJKtm2k > 2nd is tweak ISO > https://google.com/search?q=cpu+override+windows+11&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS941US941&sxsrf=AOaemvJYPjr2yFsV3auMkdqcIosJS0IWCA%3A1633573842532&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A10%2F5%2F2021%2Ccd_max%3A10%2F7%2F2021&tbm=) 4 > 4/ 3rd is turn on virtual TPM in the VM > https://twitter.com/plankers/status/1445789003761004546 > > My Xeon D-1500 series CPU on my ESXi host is incompatible w/ Win 11. CPU is > seen in VM, but Win 11 VM doesn't mind. Installs fine, no CPU bypass req'd. My > (Preview) article is still relevant > https://TinkerTry.com/windows-11-as-ws-11-as-a-vmware-esxi-vm > > > Replying to @ibeerens and @cchilderhose > > You can just add a virtual TPM in Workstation or vSphere, too. 5 > 5/ Minor vSphere 7U3 issues noticed so far > > 1. Can't "Upgrade VM Compatibility" for VMs, even those with latest VMware > Tools 11360 and powered off > 2. My daily backups (to SMB) have halted since my VCSA upgrade from 7.0U2d to > 7.0U3, I'll use VAMI to do problem determination. 6 > Windows 11 / VMware 7.0U3 / Veeam Agent 5 notes above. > > * @thurrott @bdsams @WithinRafael 7 > Delightfully straight-forward way to go forward with Windows 11 on systems > with unsupported CPUs > https://twitter.com/verge/status/1446237133841346561 > Support implications yes, but at least my 12 core Xeon D-1500 @Supermicro_SMCI > system should be good to go, testing this weekend... > > The easy way to install Windows 11 on unsupported CPUs > https://theverge.com/22715331/how-to-install-windows-11-unsupported-cpu-intel-amd-registry-regedit?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter 8 > While booting from an ISO (to edit registry for TPM bypass), it won't allow > you to upgrade. Instead, this @tomshardware method of running a PowerShell > script then running setup.exe from the ISO works. > > Testing on Xeon D-1500 system underway, despite nasty warnings... > @ibeerens > > > How to Bypass Windows 11's TPM Requirement and Upgrade from Windows 10 > > https://trib.al/98YCoJG 9 > 9/ Once my VCSA 7.0U3 was misbehaving hours after its ESXi host reboot, > vSphere Client saying "no healthy upstream". Rebooting VCSA brought it back to > normal. Later I'll look into why daily backups are failing. 10 > 10/ Windows 11 is running great on my Intel Xeon D-1567 12 core bare metal, > probably all Xeon D-1500 systems too. > > My triple monitors & speakers are on a smart power strip. Powering up, all my > window positions are actually restored to exactly where I left them. > FINALLY/FANTASTIC! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SOCIAL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TinkerTry - PCs, EVs, home tech, efficiency and more, including virtualization. My opinions here, not my employer's. Paul Braren, MCSE in 1998, VCP #2681 in 2005, vExpert since 2014, Veeam Vanguard Emeritus, 2015 to 2019. Advertise here SUPPORT TINKERTRY PayPal | Patreon After 6 successful years testing and shipping well over 1,000 Xeon D Bundles, Wiredzone had to stop selling them in 2021 due to cost, supply, and logistics challenges. Fingers crossed for Intel Ice Lake D solutions in 2022, go Gelsinger! Or AMD EPYC, we'll see. Easily update VMware ESXi at TinkerTry.com/easy-update-to-latest-esxi * People * Recent * Popular TOP COMMENTERS * blogthis · 68 posts * Itay · 45 posts * Bryce · 40 posts * João Feteira · 40 posts * Squuiid · 38 posts * Richard Robbins · 26 posts * Pat · 24 posts * Hans Boot · 23 posts * Barry Cowie · 23 posts RECENT COMMENTS * blogthis I regret not being more clear on this in my early post. There are 3 firmwares.... . EEPROM from SuperMicro support (requires EFI shell to flash the files). . Firmware and UEFI-Extension-driver now... Temporary work-around to recover from intermittent Intel X552/X557 10GbE network outages on 12 or 16 core Xeon D systems, firmware fix is in the works · 3 days ago * blogthis Please share all details on the Resistor fix, and some pictures please. 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